Vesper 30,226 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 If America Is So Exceptional Why Do So Many Republicans Support Secession? Polls show a staggering uptick in Republican support for regional secession inside the United States. https://thebanter.substack.com/p/if-america-is-so-exceptional-why WASHINGTON, DC -- This week, a new survey by the Bright Line Watch showed a staggering uptick in support for regional secession inside the United States. And it’s pretty obvious why this is happening. American politics has once again de-evolved from citizens debating the issues in good faith to a brutal and often unforgiving bloodsport where political opponents can’t simply be proved wrong, they have to be personally destroyed. While Republicans whine about “cancel culture,” many of their top influencers have filed frivolous defamation lawsuits -- SLAPP suits -- against liberals who’ve called them out on Twitter. Everyone from Devin Nunes to Jason Miller to Trump himself has attempted to cancel their various enemies by burying them in legal fees. Personal confrontations are now commonplace, with activists accosting their enemies in restaurants or outside their houses. Domestic terrorists have driven their cars into crowds of protesters. Donald Trump attacked peaceful protesters with tear gas and rubber bullets to clear the way for a photo-op, while threatening to execute leakers. Of course the most brutal example in recent memory is the January 6 insurrection in which Red Hats, incapable of losing with dignity, launched a violent invasion and occupation of Congress. This is the bloodsport. One of many reasons for this often deadly disintegration is the lack of a common source for objective reality -- the truth. Without any linkage to facts, the political debate has crumbled into nothing more than a Mobius Loop of crapola -- a screaming match based on loudness and zingers rather than who’s justifiably right and who’s justifiably wrong. It’s about destroying the other side personally because that’s the only remaining way to “win.” Nevertheless, while there have always been absolute truths in politics, one particular side of our modern debate, the Trump-controlled Republican Party, is operating on the basis of lies invented by a well-known professional con-man. Supporters of Trump have become so brainwashed -- their value as people has become so tangled up in Trumpism, it’s not just that they won’t concede to the facts, they’re utterly incapable of conceding. They will never acknowledge reality. They will never back down. Thus, the difference between the Right and the Left is that the Right is now permanently tethered to Trump’s fiction, while, even though we can be wrong sometimes because, after all, we’re human, the Left continues to base its arguments on facts more often than not -- science, statistics, journalism, historical analysis, and so forth. Despite what you might’ve heard on CNN, or read in the opinion pages of The New York Times, there’s simply no equivalence between “believing whatever Trump says” and “believing science, stats, etc.” (While we’re on equivalences, it’s also worth mentioning that the left has its weirdos, too, but they're not running the show for the Democratic Party. In fact, they're nowhere in the vicinity of the levers of power. The Republican weirdos, on the other hand, run the party and set the agenda. Don't ever let anyone gaslight you into believing there's an equivalence.) So, we’re stuck. The Left can’t -- and shouldn’t -- budge from its relative adulthood or its linkage to the facts, while the Red Hats won’t budge from whatever stunted gibberish Trump farts into his golden toilet. Consequently, with unstoppable forces colliding with immovable objects, we’re seeing an upward swing in support for regional secession. According to The Bright Line Watch, support for secession in the southern region breaks down like so: 20 percent support from Democrats, 50 percent support from independents, and a supermajority of 66 percent support from Republicans, up from 50 percent in January. Nowhere else across America is secession this popular among the three factions. 47 percent of west coast Democrats support secession, and that’s as bad as it gets for members of the liberal party. Secession is a quitter’s gambit. Again, the game can’t be won so secessionists have no choice but to hurl their Nintendo controllers across the room and storm off. It’s the last resort of hot-heads and nihilists who failed to crack a book about the previous time a portion of America tried to secede, leading to more than 600,000 deaths and thousands more mutilations on battlefields from Shiloh to Gettysburg. It’s not only reckless and pathetic, it’s also blindingly contradictory. The same idiots calling for secession claim to love America and its Constitution, especially virtue-signaling Republicans who can’t stop talking about American exceptionalism and the iconography of the United States -- the flag, the anthem, the Second Amendment. If America is so exceptional, why leave? Yes, they love America so much that when the going gets tough, 66 percent of them want to secede from it -- rejecting the United States, which they claim to love, in the most explicit way possible. And once you do it, you de-facto legalize it. Once it’s legalized, it’s extremely likely the individual states will eventually secede from the new regional government and so on and so on. And the subdivisions will continue until what was once the United States becomes Eastern Europe. And without a unified foreign policy, our overseas enemies become immensely emboldened since it’d be nearly impossible for individual states to repel them. As for the American economy? Say goodbye to your toys. Worst of all, secession is a rejection of democracy. The message it sends to emerging nations is this: democratic republics, especially across large land masses with sizable populations, can’t be sustained so fledgling nations turn to more despotic alternatives. After all, secession will eventually lead to factionalism and disintegration. This was one of Abraham Lincoln’s primary concerns in prosecuting the Civil War: he fought that grisly war in part so that “government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.” Not just here, but everywhere. Anyone who believes secession will lead to a better version of democracy is deluding themselves. When democracies fall, they’re too often replaced with something far worse. Secession will always be galactically unpatriotic by definition, and any serious talk of dissolving the Union has to be vocally and relentlessly beaten back. If you overhear some dingus of either party entertaining the idea, let them know exactly what they’re begging for: namely, the end of the United States as we know it. Contrarians might say that’s a good thing. Sure, it’s easy to blurt such a thing on Twitter, but in execution it’d be a potentially endless nightmare -- the worst parts of the Mad Max movies. And no matter how frustrating American politics has become, it’s lightyears better than the alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) GB News shows attracted zero viewers after boycott over taking the knee Channel label Guto Harri’s on-air gesture in solidarity against racist abuse suffered by the England team ‘unacceptable’ https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jul/15/gb-news-shows-attracted-zero-viewers-after-boycott-over-taking-the-knee GB News attracted zero viewers during some of its broadcasts this week, according to official television audience figures produced by rating agency Barb, after a viewer boycott prompted by one of its presenters taking the knee in solidarity with the England football team. The channel has now said the decision of Guto Harri to make the on-air gesture on Tuesday in solidarity against the racist abuse suffered by English players was “an unacceptable breach of our standards”. GB News attracted zero viewers during some of its broadcasts this week, according to official television audience figures produced by rating agency Barb, after a viewer boycott prompted by one of its presenters taking the knee in solidarity with the England football team. The channel has now said the decision of Guto Harri to make the on-air gesture on Tuesday in solidarity against the racist abuse suffered by English players was “an unacceptable breach of our standards”. A GB News spokesperson declined to say whether Harri, a former spokesperson for Boris Johnson, was still with the channel. Business editor Liam Halligan and former Labour MP Gloria De Piero attracted no measurable audience to their show between 1pm and 1.30pm on Wednesday afternoon. During the same timeslot the BBC News channel attracted 62,000 viewers, while Sky News had 50,000 people watching. GB News’ audience again briefly dipped to zero at 5pm, during a late-afternoon programme co-hosted by ex-BBC presenter Simon McCoy and former Ukip spokesperson Alex Phillips. The figures were recorded the day after Harri’s move, which led to widespread fury on social media from GB News viewers who pledged to stop watching the recently launched rightwing current affairs channel, making accusations that it had sold out and gone “woke”, secretly harboured Marxist values, or was in favour of Black Lives Matter. Other GB News hosts attempted to defend Harri’s right to freedom of speech and said the spirit of the channel was to encourage free debate. Former Coast presenter Neil Oliver, who has a weekly show on the channel, said: “My GB News teammate Guto Harri is right to say and do as he sees fit. I do the same. That’s the ethos of the channel. Free speech. We don’t all agree with each other – that’s the point, or else where’s the debate?” Oliver’s plea for open debate and tolerance had limited impact and he was then bombarded with even more negative messages from GB News viewers pledging to boycott the channel. This included suggestions that GB News should feature itself on the channel’s nightly “woke watch” segment which highlights incidents perceived to be examples of preposterous behaviour on “culture war” issues. By Thursday night the channel tweeted: “GB News stands four square against racism in all its forms. We do not have a company line on taking the knee. Some of our guests have been in favour, some against. All are anti-racist. We have editorial standards that all GB News journalists uphold.” However, it then also tweeted: “On Tuesday a contributing presenter took the knee live on air and this was an unacceptable breach of our standards … We let both sides of the argument down by oversimplifying a very complex issue.” The apparent contradiction caused confusion among social media users. GB News attracted strong audience figures when it launched last month, with hundreds of thousands of people tuning in for its much-hyped first night. However, ratings – which are measured using monitoring boxes attached to thousands of homes – have since plummeted. On Wednesday night they eventually recovered from zero to a peak of 47,000 viewers during Dan Wootton’s late night show. Andrew Neil, the face of GB News and chair of its board, told viewers earlier that he was taking leave after just two weeks on air after what he described as a “rocky start” but would return “before the summer is out”. The presenter is understood to have gone on holiday to his main residence in the south of France but there is no public return date for his flagship 8pm show. There is speculation within the station that Neil could even present some of his GB News shows from his European base. A spokesperson for GB News said they did not know whether this was planned. Multiple staff said Neil was visibly unhappy behind-the-scenes during channel’s first two weeks due to the technical problems which plagued its launch, with issues ranging from lighting so dark that some presenters could barely be seen to sound being out of sync and struggles with remote broadcasting. Staff at GB News describe an exhausting rush to get the channel on air, with the studio built in a matter of weeks rather than the planned three months and with key equipment not turning up due to delays blamed on the pandemic. GB News invested in new software called DiNA, introduced to automate many of the television production processes that require large staffing levels at the BBC and Sky News. But high levels of on-air typos, the inability to get some remote guests on air, and the short-lived but incredibly popular GB News Fails Twitter account hit morale. One incident that summed up the channel’s problems was when McCoy presented a section on cute animal pictures but viewers were unable to see any of the pictures, leaving the exasperated presenter to describe them instead. Edited July 15, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) I have never seen mainstream, centrist, corporate American media (anyone who characterises them as some sort of 'ultra-lefty pack of socialists/commies' is literally insanely brainwashed and they are exhibiting some of the exact behaviour that is a root cause of it all) as freaked out as they are now. My parents absolutely agree, as do my closest American friends who are politically aware. Almost across the board they seem resigned to (unless something massive and basically constitutionally impossible intervenes) the fact that the US is well down the path to an ultra violent civil war at a multiplicity of levels. The only real thing they are debating is how soon before it starts to kick off. Within 5 to 15 years max seems to be the consensus. Biden (NOT calling him mainstream media btw) today said that Facebook and other social media is literally killing people and ripping the nation apart, BUT he has no answer (1st Amendment and all that). Most of the elected Dems seem like paralysed like deer in the headlights. The Democratic Party power structure, by design, blocks the progressives, who are sounding the alarm, from any meaningful legislation (and the odds are high the now radical right wing-stuffed Federal courts slam it down anyway). It is a giant ever-grinding downward clusterfuck. The US is so so much harder to turn around once the centre of gravity turns toward the bad than any other advanced Western nation. Straight-jacketing checks and balances may well be a national suicide pact. Throughout the last 7,000 or so years (so going back to 5,000 BC) of human history, the average empire lasts 250 years, when all are added up and measured out. If you date the US as truly starting in September 1787 (when the US Constitution was written up), 250 years occurs in 2037, or 16 years from now. If you count it as starting July 4, 1776 (the signing of the Declaration of Independence), then 250 years comes just 5 years from now. Edited July 16, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Facebook's response to "they're killing people" is to point out how many people they haven't killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Labour MP Dawn Butler kicked out of Commons for calling Boris Johnson a 'liar' Brent Central MP Dawn Butler broke the boundaries of parliamentary etiquette by claiming Boris Johnson had "lied... over and over again" during a Commons debate on Thursday https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-dawn-butler-kicked-24596017 Labour MP Dawn Butler has been asked to leave the House of Commons for the remainder of the day after refusing to withdraw claims about Boris Johnson. The Member of Parliament for Brent Central said the Prime Minister has "lied to the House and the country over and over again". Ms Butler was ordered to withdraw from the chamber by temporary deputy speaker Judith Cummins following her remarks in a debate this afternoon. Members were discussing the prospect of a public inquiry into the government's handling of the pandemic. It is considered not within the boundaries of parliamentary etiquette to call another member a liar. Since parliament was just about to go into summer recess, Butler's suspension effectively lasted an hour, and she was unrepentant on Twitter. Johnson's "disputed claims" Butler referred to are based on the fact that she has functioning eyes, ears and memory, but her statements were also prompted by a video from lawyer/filmmaker Peter Stefanovic which has gathered 27 million views on social media since it was released in early April, when it prompted Caroline Lucas MP and five other Westminster party leaders to ask the Speaker for a vote on an inquiry into Johnson’s "consistent failure to be honest" on the floor of the house: The lies, falsehoods and misrepresentations of Boris Johnson and his government. https://boris-johnson-lies.com/ 9 DECEMBER 2019 Matt Hancock aide “whacked” by Labour activist say “senior Tories” Conservative press briefing 9 DECEMBER 2019 “Let’s get Brexit done and take back control of our fishing waters” Boris Johnson, speaking to fishermen in Grimsby 8 DECEMBER 2019 “There was a (baby boom) after the Olympics, as I prophesied in a speech in 2012. It was quite amazing. There was a big baby boom” Boris Johnson, interview with The Sunday Times 6 DECEMBER 2019 “There will be no checks on goods going from GB to NI and NI to GB because we are going to come out of the EU whole and entire. That was the objective we secured” Boris Johnson, press conference in Kent 6 DECEMBER 2019 “I’m not aware of any adverts that we publish that have been misleading” Michael Gove, ITV News 5 DECEMBER 2019 “Homelessness reached its peak in 2008 under the last Labour government. Since then it’s down by almost a half” Sajid Javid, Sky News 1 DECEMBER 2019 “I’m perfectly happy to be interviewed by any interviewer called Andrew from the BBC” Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show 1 DECEMBER 2019 “There will be no tariffs and no checks” Boris Johnson interview, Andrew Marr Show 1 DECEMBER 2019 “We’re upgrading 20 hospitals and building 40 new ones. And you are going to say, oh, well, it’s only six. Actually, that’s not true” Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show 1 DECEMBER 2019 “One of the reasons we’re having this election is because we have a Queen’s speech that was blocked by parliament” Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show 1 DECEMBER 2019 “Jeremy Corbyn wants to scrap MI5” Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show 29 NOVEMBER 2019 “The NHS, as you know, it’s the biggest increase in living memory, a £34bn increase” Boris Johnson interview, Nick Ferrari on LBC 29 NOVEMBER 2019 “40 new hospitals will be built as a result of decisions we’re taking” Boris Johnson interview, Nick Ferrari on LBC 28 NOVEMBER 2019 “Absolutely not. I’ve never tried to deceive the public and I’ve always tried to be absolutely frank” Boris Johnson to ITV News 27 NOVEMBER 2019 “The prime minister has been very clear, you know. We’re not going to have anything. We’re going to make sure that there’s unfettered access into the UK market” Julian Smith, Conservative Northern Ireland manifesto launch 26 NOVEMBER 2019 “If anybody is convicted, if anybody is done for Islamophobia, or any other prejudice or discrimination in the Conservative Party they are out first bounce” Boris Johnson, to television cameras 26 NOVEMBER 2019 “No-one has ever credibly suggested that (Islamophobia is) an issue with the leadership of the party, whether that's the leader of the party of the day or the chancellor or other senior figures” Sajid Javid, campaign event in Bolton 26 NOVEMBER 2019 Nicola Sturgeon “confirmed last night to Andrew Neil” that SNP policy was “to rejoin the EU, to join the Euro” Boris Johnson, launch of the Scottish Conservative party manifesto 24 NOVEMBER 2019 “We will certainly make sure that the A&E in Telford is kept open” Boris Johnson, Conservative Party manifesto launch 24 NOVEMBER 2019 “We will be investing, as I say, the biggest ever cash boost to the NHS” Boris Johnson, Conservative Party manifesto launch 22 NOVEMBER 2019 “I see no reason to interfere with the normal timetable for these things” Boris Johnson, Question Time 21 NOVEMBER 2019 “Labour’s Jess Phillips undermines Corbyn’s manifesto by admitting they can’t or won’t deliver on their promises” Conservative Party Twitter account 21 NOVEMBER 2019 “No-one gives a toss about the social media cut and thrust” Dominic Raab, BBC Breakfast 20 NOVEMBER 2019 “If we’re lucky enough to be elected, so the first budget we will go up to the £9,500 threshold and that will, as I say, put £500 into the pockets of everyone” Boris Johnson, campaign stop in North Yorkshire 20 NOVEMBER 2019 “There is absolutely no evidence that I’ve ever seen of any Russian interference in UK democratic processes” Boris Johnson, campaign stop in Teeside 19 NOVEMBER 2019 “We’re putting record sums in [to the NHS] — £34bn” Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV 19 NOVEMBER 2019 “We’re not just upgrading 20 hospitals but we are building 40 new hospitals” Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV 19 NOVEMBER 2019 “Not at all. Northern Ireland is part of the customs territory of the UK” Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV 19 NOVEMBER 2019 Jeremy Corbyn “would whack corporation tax up to the highest in Europe” Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV 19 NOVEMBER 2019 “I think it does” Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV 19 NOVEMBER 2019 “factcheckUK” Conservative Party press office, Twitter account 19 NOVEMBER 2019 The UK’s corporation tax is “already the lowest in Europe” Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV 18 NOVEMBER 2019 “Jeremy Corbyn would whack up corporation tax to the highest levels in Europe” Boris Johnson, speech to the Confederation of British Business conference 2019 17 NOVEMBER 2019 “It’s unfair that people coming from European countries can access free NHS care without paying in, while others make significant contributions” Michael Gove, quoted in The Mail on Sunday 16 NOVEMBER 2019 “Inside the EU we’re trapped in the Common Agricultural Policy. It’s one of the big benefits of leaving the EU, and it will allow us to meet these tree-planting targets which will ensure that we deal with the climate crisis that we face” Michael Gove, Today programme 15 NOVEMBER 2019 “I see absolutely no reason to change the normal procedures for publishing reports just because there’s an election coming” Boris Johnson, BBC Radio 5 Live 15 NOVEMBER 2019 Jeremy Corbyn “thinks home ownership is a bad idea and is opposed to it” Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News 15 NOVEMBER 2019 “20,000 more police are operating on our streets to fight crime and bring crime down” Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News 15 NOVEMBER 2019 Jeremy Corbyn “plans to wreck the economy with a £1.2 trillion spending plan” Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News 15 NOVEMBER 2019 Labour “want to have two referendums next year, one in Scotland” Boris Johnson speech in Oldham, live on Sky News 15 NOVEMBER 2019 “We are getting on with a fantastic programme … 20 hospital upgrades, 40 new hospitals” Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News 15 NOVEMBER 2019 “Jeremy Corbyn … wouldn’t even stick up for this country when it came to the poisonings in Salisbury and actually seemed to side in that instance with Russia” Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News 14 NOVEMBER 2019 Conservative Research Department Political Brief: General Election 2019 14 NOVEMBER 2019 “Corbyn and his lot ... actually think that the armed services should be disbanded — that’s what he said” Boris Johnson in a speech to supporters in Oldham 14 NOVEMBER 2019 “Under Jeremy Corbyn’s plan for unlimited and uncontrolled immigration, (net migration) could increase to over 840,000 people — more than the population of Liverpool — coming to the UK every year” Conservative Research Department report 12 NOVEMBER 2019 “The nature of these reports is that they do contain sensitive information, which is why they need to go through an appropriate period of vetting to make sure that they are safe to then be released. That’s what’s happened here.” Rishi Sunak, Good Morning Britain 12 NOVEMBER 2019 “Boris Johnson warns voters that Britain faces ‘political onanism’ of Brexit under Jeremy Corbyn” The Sun 10 NOVEMBER 2019 “The true ‘Cost of Corbyn’ is a staggering £1.2 trillion” Sajid Javid, public statement 8 NOVEMBER 2019 “I've had to give [drinking] up until we get Brexit done” Boris Johnson, visit to hospital in Nottinghamshire 7 NOVEMBER 2019 “If somebody asks you to [fill in a form], tell them to ring up the prime minister, and I will direct them to throw that form in the bin” Boris Johnson, to manufacturers in Northern Ireland 6 NOVEMBER 2019 Jeremy Corbyn “sided with Putin” over the Salisbury novichok attack Boris Johnson at a Downing Street speech 6 NOVEMBER 2019 “Our MPs are just refusing time and again to deliver Brexit” Boris Johnson, speech launching Conservative Party election campaign, Downing Street 6 NOVEMBER 2019 “If we can get this deal over the line . . . then we can release that pent-up flood of investment. Hundreds of billions are waiting to pour into the UK” Boris Johnson, speech launching Conservative Party election campaign, Downing Street 6 NOVEMBER 2019 “We can leave the EU as one UK, whole and entire and perfect as promised” Boris Johnson, speech launching Conservative Party election campaign, Downing Street 6 NOVEMBER 2019 “We have got a deal, oven-ready, by which we can leave the EU in a few weeks. It’s a great deal for this country. It delivers everything that I wanted when I campaigned for Brexit” Boris Johnson, speech launching Conservative Party election campaign, Downing Street 6 NOVEMBER 2019 “They [the Labour Party] point their fingers at individuals with a relish and a vindictiveness not seen since Stalin persecuted the kulaks” Boris Johnson, launching Conservative Party election campaign in The Daily Telegraph 5 NOVEMBER 2019 “This is no different from the standard procedure, as I understand it, that occurs with these select committee reports” Michael Gove, BBC Breakfast 5 NOVEMBER 2019 “It’s going through appropriate procedures, I think it’s been lodged with No. 10 and it will be published in due course.” Michael Gove, Today Programme 5 NOVEMBER 2019 “We have taken swift action to deal with any Conservative Party member who has been accused of engaging in Islamophobic language or actions. We’ve made sure those people are suspended and there is an investigation" Michael Gove, Today Programme 5 NOVEMBER 2019 “Jeremy Corbyn’s Brexit minister can’t or won’t answer a simple question about Labour’s position on Brexit” Conservative Party Twitter account 3 NOVEMBER 2019 “Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey reveals more than 10 million people can look forward to an income boost, as working-age benefits will rise by the rate of inflation in April” Department for Work and Pensions, Twitter 3 NOVEMBER 2019 “Parliament refused finally to give approval for us to come out on October 31 which was a great disappointment” Boris Johnson, Ridge on Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Lied all his life. Sacked from two jobs for lying, lied to his wife (having an affair while his wife had cancer) another 60 lies 60 lies of Boris Johnson: Tory leader's curious relationship with the truth - Mirror Online Atomiswave and Vesper 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Priti Patel’s position “untenable” following Police Federation vote of no confidence – Nick Thomas-Symonds https://labour.org.uk/press/priti-patels-position-untenable-following-police-federation-vote-of-no-confidence-nick-thomas-symonds/ Nick Thomas-Symonds MP, Labour’s Shadow Home Secretary, has today written to the Home Secretary saying that her position is “untenable” following a vote of no confidence from the Police Federation, and demanded action on police pay while setting out key areas in which Priti Patel has failed the police. The letter follows the Police Federation of England and Wales today, 22 July, declaring ‘no confidence’ in the Home Secretary due to her failure to allow the Police Remuneration Review Body to consider awarding a pay increase to Police Officers. In his letter, the Shadow Home Secretary states “it is little wonder that policing representatives have lost faith in you as Home Secretary and the process you have overseen with the Police Remuneration Review Body….I know [police representatives] are deeply hurt by the final offer.” He goes on to say that the Home Secretary’s position is “untenable” following a range of key failings of frontline officers and that urgent action is required which must include “opening negotiations on a fair police pay rise.” This is not the first time that the police have been let down by this Home Secretary. During the early stages of the vaccine rollout, the Home Secretary publicly stated that police officers should be prioritised for receiving the vaccine. When it was revealed that age and vulnerability, and not profession, would be prioritised for vaccine roll-out, the Police Federation stated that they felt a “deep sense of betrayal”. In recent weeks, the Home Secretary has been accused of misleading the House of Commons when she said that she had consulted the Police Federation in the work of developing the Clauses relating to Public Order in the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill. Yet the Police Federation have confirmed that they had never provided either a written submission or been consulted upon the issues of protest. The Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill also legislates for the creation of a Police Covenant. Labour has long argued that it is inappropriate for a Government Minister to Chair the Police Covenant. Mr Thomas-Symonds MP, in his letter, outlines that “the constitution of the Police Covenant must change and an independent Chair be appointed.” Nick Thomas-Symonds MP, Labour’s Shadow Home Secretary, said: “It is the height of hypocrisy for the Home Secretary to praise the police in public with warm words, but let them down so badly when it comes to meaningful action. So it is no surprise that the Police Federation have taken the extraordinary step of confirming that they have lost confidence in Priti Patel. “The truth is it is not just on pay where police officers have been let down. “We also saw the Home Secretary promise action on getting priority access to vaccines for police and failed to deliver, in addition to taking the name of police representatives in vain, by suggesting they had been calling for additional powers to police protests, which was not the case. Little wonder the Conservatives are trying to mark their own homework, by having one of their own Ministers chair the new Police Covenant, this is clearly wrong. “The Home Secretary’s position is clearly untenable, and the police deserve nothing less than urgent action from the Prime Minister and this government. This must include opening negotiations on a fair police pay rise and work to reconstitute the Police Covenant.” Edited July 23, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 CRAZY RIGHT WINGERS: There used to be the Tejero Blanco crowd some decades ago. The slogan was that "one sergeant" was needed to make the trains run on time. Then the racists and anti-immigrants, but there was some overlapping between the two. Anyway this is standard right wing theology, so let it be. But now the antivaccine demonstrations coupled with nationalist slogans ! Facebook and tweeter work overtime to close accounts and remove posts with fake news. What's this ? Never seen in before. I guess if we lived back in the days of the black death and we were in a castle quarantined and surrounded by archers we would all like to get away. But deny the plague and deny medicines as well ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,118 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Good fucking job......at least some get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 The "proletarian nucleus" explodes two bombs outside the house of the Greek minister of civil protection - they could n't stay uninvolved ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Washington Post after analysing everything Trump said have worked out he lied over 30 000 times during office Vesper and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,118 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Washington Post after analysing everything Trump said have worked out he lied over 30 000 times during office They all do, from that clown Boris to Macron to Bush to Mette of Denmark and all the way to whomever......liers and deceivers the lot of them. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Atomiswave said: They all do, from that clown Boris to Macron to Bush to Mette of Denmark and all the way to whomever......liers and deceivers the lot of them. Mette Frederiksen is a good leader, nothing like the assholes you placed her with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,118 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Vesper said: Mette Frederiksen is a good leader, nothing like the assholes you placed her with Good leader my ass, another puppet. her repu is not well received here I can tell you. Yes she might not be a Bush but rotten is still rotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Atomiswave said: Good leader my ass, another puppet. her repu is not well received here I can tell you. Yes she might not be a Bush but rotten is still rotten. what is she doing you dislike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,118 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, Vesper said: what is she doing you dislike? Many things mate, for one she passed a law that you cant record police officers any longer, so if you see the police brutalize someone you cant film it, if they do catch you, you go to jail. Thats straight up horseshit amongst other things. Im at work now but will give further info later. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 22 hours ago, Atomiswave said: Many things mate, for one she passed a law that you cant record police officers any longer, so if you see the police brutalize someone you cant film it, if they do catch you, you go to jail. Thats straight up horseshit amongst other things. Im at work now but will give further info later. Cops as we know have a lot to hide, oh buts its ok for them to film us either openly or covertly Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 23 hours ago, Atomiswave said: Many things mate, for one she passed a law that you cant record police officers any longer, so if you see the police brutalize someone you cant film it, if they do catch you, you go to jail. Thats straight up horseshit amongst other things. Im at work now but will give further info later. could you please post links about thsi new law that forbids recording the coppers? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,118 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: Cops as we know have a lot to hide, oh buts its ok for them to film us either openly or covertly police are just an extension of the filth, their time will come. You took an oath to protect the people, not to suck your masters dick you bare foot cunts. 10 minutes ago, Vesper said: could you please post links about thsi new law that forbids recording the coppers? TIA Saw it on the tele the other day, it will come in effect before Oktober......I will dig for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) David Cameron ‘made more than £7m’ from Greensill Capital before firm collapsed https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19502127.david-cameron-made-7m-greensill-capital-firm-collapsed/ David Cameron is reported to have made 10 million US dollars (£7.2 million) from Greensill Capital before the company collapsed in March. The former Prime Minister was revealed to have made 4.5 million dollars (£3.25 million) after cashing in shares from the company in 2019, and a salary of roughly one million dollars a year for work as a part-time adviser. The BBC’s Panorama programme has reportedly obtained a letter between the firm and the former prime minister detailing the value of his shares. Mr Cameron is believed to have made approximately 10 million dollars before tax from Greensill over a two-and-a-half year period. His spokesman said the former PM’s finances were a private matter, but added he “deeply regrets” Greensill’s collapse. Mr Cameron began his role as an adviser to Greensill in August 2018, just over two years after he resigned as prime minister in July 2016. The firm’s founder, Lex Greensill, advised the Government during Mr Cameron’s time in No 10 but he denied he had been offered a role while in office. Greensill provided so-called supply chain finance to businesses, which meant the finance firm would pay a company’s invoice immediately after it was sent, cutting out the usual delay which can restrict companies’ cash flows. The firm was the main financial backer to GFG Alliance – a group of companies controlled by the steel magnate Sanjeev Gupta, which borrowed around $5 billion from Greensill. But Greensill used its own cash to cover repayments GFG couldn’t afford, according to Panorama. David Cameron lobbied the UK Government to act as a new investor for the firm, texting ministers including the Chancellor Rishi Sunak, as well as Boris Johnson’s senior adviser Sheridan Westlake, and deputy Bank of England governor Sir Jon Cunliffe. The Bank of England turned Greensill down, but in June 2020 Greensill was approved as a lender under a Government scheme designed to get emergency cash to companies affected by the Covid pandemic. Greensill collapsed in March 2021, leading to a series of inquiries into Mr Cameron’s conduct and what had happened to the firm. A statement from Mr Cameron’s spokesman said: “David Cameron deeply regrets that Greensill went into administration and is desperately sorry for those who have lost their jobs. “As he was neither a director of the company, nor involved in any lending decisions, he has no special insight into what ultimately happened. “He acted in good faith at all times, and there was no wrongdoing in any of the actions he took. He made the representations he did to the UK Government not just because he thought it would benefit the company, but because he sincerely believed there would be a material benefit for UK businesses at a challenging time. “He had no idea until December 2020 that the company was in danger of failure.” The statement added: “David Cameron has been clear all along that there are important lessons to be learnt from this whole episode and, as such, he has been pleased to provide evidence to the Government’s Boardman Inquiry, and to two Parliamentary Select Committees. “Both the Treasury Select Committee and the Boardman Report have since confirmed that he broke no rules. The Boardman Report also makes plain that he played no role in bringing Lex Greensill into government.” Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner said it was “ludicrous” that Mr Cameron “walked away with $10m for two-and-a-half years’ part-time work for a company that collapsed, risking thousands of pounds of taxpayers’ money.” She added: “The fact that David Cameron was cleared of any wrongdoing, proves that the rules that are supposed to regulate lobbying are completely unfit for purpose. It’s created a wild west where the Conservatives think it’s one rule for them and another for everyone else. “The system causes more harm than good by giving a veil of legitimacy to the rampant cronyism, sleaze and dodgy lobbying that is polluting our democracy under Boris Johnson and the Conservatives. “This is money most of us cannot even imagine, but for David Cameron it was just a part-time gig using his Tory contacts for huge personal gain.” The Treasury Select Committee of MPs said in May that Mr Cameron showed a “significant lack of judgment”, although he was cleared of breaking lobbying laws. Edited August 9, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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