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Here is the tweet/post from 3 march 2017 if you want to bookmark it. This is the only person I found who posted this.

Edited March 5, 2024 by KEVINAA

[Fernando 6,585]

18 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Cant see him winning this year though.

 

Biden has ran a pretty solid ship. Although his Zionism is depressing.

I think Trump is going to win because of the immigration issue. 

Don't underestimate the power of the people when you mess with their wallet. And immigration is causing all that. 

For me I'm fine helping immigrants and taking a hit but that's not everyone view. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

9 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I think Trump is going to win because of the immigration issue. 

Don't underestimate the power of the people when you mess with their wallet. And immigration is causing all that. 

For me I'm fine helping immigrants and taking a hit but that's not everyone view. 

When people make allegations like those, say Fox News, the burden of proof is on them. I personally think the claim is horseshit and there are TONS of factors that affect the economy, and often it has little to do with immediate policy (Dems or Gop). Speaking of which, jobs are strong, stocks are up, which will work in Biden's favor.

While I think the Biden administration could have been doing more on immigration, the Dems did call the GOP bluff with the bill we discussed a couple of pages back. 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

55 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I think Trump is going to win because of the immigration issue. 

Don't underestimate the power of the people when you mess with their wallet. And immigration is causing all that. 

For me I'm fine helping immigrants and taking a hit but that's not everyone view. 

Trump didnt stop illegal immigration during his 4 years though. And he didnt even deport as many as Obama did.

 

If Immigration is the main point then Biden wins, although he will be hurt in places like here in Georgia where an immigrant killed a college girl this year.

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

I think Trump is going to win because of the immigration issue. 

Don't underestimate the power of the people when you mess with their wallet. And immigration is causing all that. 

For me I'm fine helping immigrants and taking a hit but that's not everyone view. 

Immigration ...
Again.
What is an immigrant ?
An immigrant is a person with two arms, two legs, two heads.
An immigrant can be a nuclear scientist (Oppenheimer) or someone who sells sunglasses and lighters in the high street.
He is just a person.
But if you were an immigrant what would annoy you most ?

a) the extreme racists, fascists and apartheidists
b) the so called "defense" on your behalf by the reds, felllowtravelers, glass breaking anarchist groups.

For me it's the (b).
In the long game It's what makes you an endangered species and not the nutcase rightwinger.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

2 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Immigration ...
Again.
What is an immigrant ?
An immigrant is a person with two arms, two legs, two heads.
An immigrant can be a nuclear scientist (Oppenheimer) or someone who sells sunglasses and lighters in the high street.
He is just a person.
But if you were an immigrant what would annoy you most ?

a) the extreme racists, fascists and apartheidists
b) the so called "defense" on your behalf by the reds, felllowtravelers, glass breaking anarchist groups.

For me it's the (b).
In the long game It's what makes you an endangered species and not the nutcase rightwinger.

A would probably want you killed, or at the very least removed.

B, even misguided, probably has your best interests as an immigrant as a thought.

I do think thats probably the difference in America though. Oppenheimer was the children of immigrants, but he was as Americans as it comes.  Trump's mom was born in Europe, so were the parents of his dad, buts he's the biggest symbol of American ignorance. 1 generation makes you American. Its different with you lot in Europe.

[cosmicway 1,333]

48 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

A would probably want you killed, or at the very least removed.

B, even misguided, probably has your best interests as an immigrant as a thought.

I do think thats probably the difference in America though. Oppenheimer was the children of immigrants, but he was as Americans as it comes.  Trump's mom was born in Europe, so were the parents of his dad, buts he's the biggest symbol of American ignorance. 1 generation makes you American. Its different with you lot in Europe.

The other one with the H bomb was Hungarian immigrant.
Also the fellow who designed the Mini Cooper was a Greek one, Isigonis.

The (b) crowd are not misguided however. They are instruments of the international communist conspiracy.

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

3 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Immigration ...
Again.
What is an immigrant ?
An immigrant is a person with two arms, two legs, two heads.
An immigrant can be a nuclear scientist (Oppenheimer) or someone who sells sunglasses and lighters in the high street.
He is just a person.
But if you were an immigrant what would annoy you most ?

a) the extreme racists, fascists and apartheidists
b) the so called "defense" on your behalf by the reds, felllowtravelers, glass breaking anarchist groups.

For me it's the (b).
In the long game It's what makes you an endangered species and not the nutcase rightwinger.

I don't think anyone has anything against legal immigration. Coming to country with papers. Problem is millions of illegal immigrants. Would you be happy,  let's say 2m people coming to Greece with those ships?

[cosmicway 1,333]

13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I don't think anyone has anything against legal immigration. Coming to country with papers. Problem is millions of illegal immigrants. Would you be happy,  let's say 2m people coming to Greece with those ships?

You are mistaken or you are a wet lib.
Several Greek immigrants in Germany have been brutally murdered by neonazis.
Also about the 2m people you are also mistaken. Not taking them in is not the same as ethnic cleansing.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

25 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

The other one with the H bomb was Hungarian immigrant.
Also the fellow who designed the Mini Cooper was a Greek one, Isigonis.

The (b) crowd are not misguided however. They are instruments of the international communist conspiracy.

I've been around enough leftist circles to know there is no conspiracy. They are just as disorganized and flying by the seats of their pants as any other group😂

I think immigration is a net positive to societies, but I also think it has to be done smartly. I think America, and to a lesser extent Canada, have done it very well. Brought in well educated people who were able to contribute quickly. When you do that it is pretty much all upside. Then you have nations like Japan which are pretty much dead due to lack of outside influence. They won't ever reach their former glory without bringing in some new blood.

[cosmicway 1,333]

15 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

I've been around enough leftist circles to know there is no conspiracy. They are just as disorganized and flying by the seats of their pants as any other group😂

I think immigration is a net positive to societies, but I also think it has to be done smartly. I think America, and to a lesser extent Canada, have done it very well. Brought in well educated people who were able to contribute quickly. When you do that it is pretty much all upside. Then you have nations like Japan which are pretty much dead due to lack of outside influence. They won't ever reach their former glory without bringing in some new blood.

My great grand dad was Greek American immigrant.
Fought in Flanders in WW1 then when he returned to America he becamse citizen but was killed in an industrial accident.
That's why I 'm not American - my mom at any rate.
 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

2 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

My great grand dad was Greek American immigrant.
Fought in Flanders in WW1 then when he returned to America he becamse citizen but was killed in an industrial accident.
That's why I 'm not American - my mom at any rate.
 

Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have stayed over here after he died. The wealth this country generated from the period of the Cold War until like 2008 was unparalleled.

We'll never be there again, but when we were it was a thing of beauty.

[cosmicway 1,333]

23 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

I've been around enough leftist circles to know there is no conspiracy. They are just as disorganized and flying by the seats of their pants as any other group😂
 

Well it's a bit hard lines for them without uncle Joe.
But they were acting like a well oiled machine as long as uncle Joe was around.
They don't give a toss about immigtants, they try to use them as instruments.
Being unable to start a revolution themselves they would rather have the right wing extremists take over to create chaos (Eisenhower spotted that btw when he was president).
Putin is acting along the same lines now with his friend Bannon.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

44 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Well it's a bit hard lines for them without uncle Joe.
But they were acting like a well oiled machine as long as uncle Joe was around.
They don't give a toss about immigtants, they try to use them as instruments.
Being unable to start a revolution themselves they would rather have the right wing extremists take over to create chaos (Eisenhower spotted that btw when he was president).
Putin is acting along the same lines now with his friend Bannon.

Joe is about as centrist as centrist gets though. Nobody on the far left likes him.

 

He's a Zionist who made his name working with segregationists to stop school integration.😂

[cosmicway 1,333]

12 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

He's a Zionist who made his name working with segregationists to stop school integration.😂

Those were segrgationists who had changed their views.