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12 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said:

This whole side of playoff is funny.

On one side, teams like Arsenal, City, Real, Bayern killing each other.. On the other side, all teams quite awful in CL top 4 level. Inter missed a HUGE chance, they should have walked to the final.

Yeah it is crazy. Paris will be kicking themselves as they could definitely give both Madrid and Bayern big big problems in a one off game.

How they haven’t scored is mental last 10 minutes but at same time I think Vitinha has hit the bar 3 times alone from about 25 yards out but PSG’s gamesmanship and players rolling around like pussies for absolutely nothing is laughable. Get what they deserve.

Mats Hummels one of the best individual defensive performances I can remember in a long time. 35 years old and absolutely shackled Mbappe.

Interesting what this means for Luis Enrique also. 

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So much for it being a cakewalk for PSG. 

Dortmund isn't supposedly a side we should be trying to emulate. Lose one of the best players in the world & still manage to reach a CL final. Not bad.

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The whole 30 shots and hitting the woodwork 6 times over 2 legs will make it look a bit more like Dortmund got lucky but PSG for all the shots, all their individual quality and for Luis Enrique being an apparent top top coach - how many speculative shots do they have from outside the box? Like they must of had at least 15 efforts from outside the box tonight alone. 

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10 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Maatsen was superb defensively

just so so so solid

That's interesting... he was a bit iffy on D in the first match.

Couldn't watch it/record it as the game was being held hostage by paramount+

PSG always have weaknesses in their team, which gets exploited in the CL. It's usually D, but haven't seen them enough this time around to know for sure.

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5 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Couldn't watch it/record it as the game was being held hostage by paramount+

the streams I put up worked like a charm

clear as a stream is going to get as well

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Tbf dortmund rode their luck still psg were incredibly poor. Shows how much of a difference European experience makes. Also you are always in with a handicap with 0 aerial ability. All of their outfield player are either kinda short or suck in the air defensively. 
too bad Dortmund are guaranteed to lose in the final no matter who they play. 

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since BoClownlake have taken over

we have spent, gross, THREE times as much as the ENTIRE Dortmund side is valued at

and that valuation includes loan players they do not own

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45 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Tbf dortmund rode their luck still psg were incredibly poor. Shows how much of a difference European experience makes. Also you are always in with a handicap with 0 aerial ability. All of their outfield player are either kinda short or suck in the air defensively. 
too bad Dortmund are guaranteed to lose in the final no matter who they play. 

Didn't you say they wouldn't be able to get past PSG either?

Their only chance of another surprise triumph is Bayern doing the business tomorrow. RM just don't  choke when it really matters.

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I feel so much better not participating in CL when I see team like Dortmund reaching the final. I'm definitely not gonna watch it just like I didn't semis. Inter and Spurs also in last couple of years. Even we won it while haven't been competitive in PL. Everyone can do it. Winning PL is ten times more difficult. Every year is similar lost the buzz. I like new system from next season. That can put more excitement. More excited about Club World Cup next summer. 

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23 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Even we won it while haven't been competitive in PL. Everyone can do it.

no no they cannot

In the last 20 seasons, including this one

the only teams to win the CL

are

Real Madrid   2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2022   
AC Milan   2007
Bayern Munich   2013, 2020   
Liverpool    2005, 2019    
Barcelona    2006, 2009, 2011, 2015    (they only won it one other time, in 1992, in their hitory)
Inter Milan    2010    
Manchester United   2008  (GRRRRRR)
Chelsea    2012, 2021 
Manchester City    2023

Porto with Mou, 21 seasons ago and Dortmund 28 seasons ago (Sammer-led) were the only 'gatecrashers' in the past 30 seasons and Dortmund is not really a gatecrasher like Porto in 2004 or some oth the one-offs from ages ago (listed below)

Juventus have only won twice in NINE finals (like us with the Community Shield and now, lately all domestic cups, lol) 1985, 1996

 

and the ONLY other teams to win CL/EC ever were all ages ago

and none of them will win the CL ever again, or not for decades IMHO

 

Ajax   1971, 1972, 1973, 1995    
Benfica      1961, 1962   
Nottingham Forest    1979, 1980   
Celtic    1967  
Hamburger SV    1983   
Steaua București    1986   
Marseille    1993   
Feyenoord   1970
Aston Villa    1982 
PSV Eindhoven     1988  
Red Star Belgrade  1991

 

In the entire histoty of the EC/CL

the only shock winners were, IMHO

Porto    1987 (English clubs were banned from Europe) and 2004
Steaua București  1986  (English clubs were banned from Europe)
Red Star Belgrade    1991 (English clubs were banned from the EC for the last time, and in 1992 it became the CL)

If English clubs were not banned, none of those who won during the ban would have won if there had been no ban

leaving Mou's 2004 Porto win as the only REAL (IMHO) shock win ever against a full field

 

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