🇧🇪 Kevin de Bruyne

[DYC. 7,542]

Going back to KDB. I think he would have trouble in other big teams like he did at Chelsea. Yes he's very creative but his pass completion is very poor. I realize you won't hit 90% of your passes and still be very creative because you have to take risks, but the balance is still to achieve close to 85%. Mata and Cesc get the assists but they also still manage 85% or above pass completion.

Guys like Oscar, Schurrle, Ramires who get criticised for not completing enough passes, still have a better pass completion than KDB. At a big team, pass completion is much more important than at other teams.

KDB's natural instinct is to try passes, even if they are very risky. This will cause him problems if he moves to other big teams.

Chelsea, City, Barca, Bayern, Real. You need to be able to keep very high possession otherwise you'll get benched.

I would have said Dortmund would be perfect for him because they play so direct, which is perfectly suited for him.

Agree with what you said. That's definitely a weak part of his game. According to WhoScored, he completes 74,3% of his passes. A slight raise in the EL, 79,3%. Unacceptable at top level. That said, if that's one of your major problems as a young player, you're lucky. Especially since it's a case of dodgy decision making rather than a lack of technique. So it's something that can easily be fixed by training and experience. And the good thing is, he doesn't seem to be losing the ball in dangerous areas. Not to mention his great ability to create chances.

He just needs to learn to keep it simple more often and to be more involved (more touches per game, more passes per game). And come to think of it, that's probably the only major flaw in his game. He's still a bit on the weak side but he makes it up with his impressive engine. He always seems to be on the move, including (long) sprints.

He can become quite a player, just needs to take that next step. I hope Wolfsburg become a force so he doesn't join a rival. I don't think Wolfsburg would sell to Dortmund.

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

Agree with what you said. That's definitely a weak part of his game. According to WhoScored, he completes 74,3% of his passes. A slight raise in the EL, 79,3%. Unacceptable at top level. That said, if that's one of your major problems as a young player, you're lucky. Especially since it's a case of dodgy decision making rather than a lack of technique. So it's something that can easily be fixed by training and experience. And the good thing is, he doesn't seem to be losing the ball in dangerous areas. Not to mention his great ability to create chances.

He just needs to learn to keep it simple more often and to be more involved (more touches per game, more passes per game). And come to think of it, that's probably the only major flaw in his game. He's still a bit on the weak side but he makes it up with his impressive engine. He always seems to be on the move, including (long) sprints.

He can become quite a player, just needs to take that next step. I hope Wolfsburg become a force so he doesn't join a rival. I don't think Wolfsburg would sell to Dortmund.

He just always tries the most difficult passes you can give, and he succeeds a lot. Every pass of him is meant to bring a teammate alone in front of the goalkeeper. And when a pass doesn't succeed, it's not that bad. The defenders or the goalkeepers can't do that much with it. High risk play certainly works in his position, I would certainly keep that in his game. And yes, Oscar has a higher passing completion, but De Bruyne is obviously a 10 times better passing player than Oscar.

Let us all be players that give the easiest 2 metres pass possible, so we can get a pass completion of 98% and that everybody will cheer for our statistics while we bring nothing extra to our team. Yay

[Oscar 441]

He just always tries the most difficult passes you can give, and he succeeds a lot. Every pass of him is meant to bring a teammate alone in front of the goalkeeper. And when a pass doesn't succeed, it's not that bad. The defenders or the goalkeepers can't do that much with it. High risk play certainly works in his position, I would certainly keep that in his game. And yes, Oscar has a higher passing completion, but De Bruyne is obviously a 10 times better passing player than Oscar.

Let us all be players that give the easiest 2 metre pass possible, so we can get a pass completion of 98% and that everybody will cheer for our statistics while we bring nothing extra to our team. Yay

KDB reminds me of an unathletic Gerrard....

Both love to do hollywood passes, however, i do agree that pass percentage can be skewed from reality

Also, United never bidded for KDB. this is the same team that can't get mata and herrara to start...

[Christacinto 137]

Belgian squad and formation that in my mind will win the European Cup:

Courtois

Alderweireld Vermaelen Kompany Vertonghen

Witsel Naingolan

KDB

Januzaj² Hazard³

Benteke/Origi *

* against the weaker oppositions that park the bus, Lukaku against the top teams

² Switched by Mirallas

³ Switched by Mertens

Other subs to play a role : Fellaini, Dembele, Denayer, Praet, T.Hazard, Van den Borre

[Oscar 441]

Big 3 in 2016 will be Germany, France and Spain fighting for the title...

However, with germany, it all goes down to if lahm returns from retirement, if not, I can see France winning it (granted ribery is still playing)

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Unathletic Gerrard? Pffft

The Belgian team has its own issues but who knows maybe Mou is playing them up so he can take them over in the future and try to win a World Cup. There's plenty of talent and it keeps coming.

We still haven't seen what Musonda Jr. can do at the senior level.

Tielemans needs more seasoning and Praet needs to live in a gym for the next year.

KDB just needs to play regularly.

[Oscar 441]

Unathletic Gerrard? Pffft

The Belgian team has its own issues but who knows maybe Mou is playing them up so he can take them over in the future and try to win a World Cup. There's plenty of talent and it keeps coming.

We still haven't seen what Musonda Jr. can do at the senior level.

Tielemans needs more seasoning and Praet needs to live in a gym for the next year.

KDB just needs to play regularly.

However, Kompany is declining..

Your soul, your captain, your leader and best player... Who would replace him in europe 2016?

[DYC. 7,542]

He just always tries the most difficult passes you can give, and he succeeds a lot. Every pass of him is meant to bring a teammate alone in front of the goalkeeper. And when a pass doesn't succeed, it's not that bad. The defenders or the goalkeepers can't do that much with it. High risk play certainly works in his position, I would certainly keep that in his game. And yes, Oscar has a higher passing completion, but De Bruyne is obviously a 10 times better passing player than Oscar.

Let us all be players that give the easiest 2 metres pass possible, so we can get a pass completion of 98% and that everybody will cheer for our statistics while we bring nothing extra to our team. Yay

74% is unacceptable. No one at top level is allowed to have such a completion rate. It's not even up to discussion. Just take a look at the best attacking midfielders in the world.

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

74% is unacceptable. No one at top level is allowed to have such a completion rate. It's not even up to discussion. Just take a look at the best attacking midfielders in the world.

What he shows on the field is what matters, not what some guys write that judge him only on one statistic. Bundesliga POY will be a battle between Robben and De Bruyne, enough said.

[DYC. 7,542]

What he shows on the field is what matters, not what some guys write that judge him only on one statistic. Bundesliga POY will be a battle between Robben and De Bruyne, enough said.

Whatever you say.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

What he shows on the field is what matters, not what some guys write that judge him only on one statistic. Bundesliga POY will be a battle between Robben and De Bruyne, enough said.

The point is that at the top teams 74% will not cut it. It's fine for Wolfsburg but that's not good enough at a European elite. I bet you other than strikers and goalkeepers you won't find a single player with 74% pass completion at any of the top teams in Europe (other than Athletico possibly and Dortmund in previous years).

You're right, the types of passes he tries are very high risk but there should be a better balance. It's fine at Wolfsburg since he's their only outlet but with better players around him that won't cut it.

Similarly, a guy like Schurrle will fit at Wolfsburg because he'll get you the goals but outside of that we know his passing is nothing special, his dribbling and ball control skills aren't up to par either. He needed the goals AND those other attributes if he ever wanted to regularly start at a top team. While at Wolfsburg, they'll be happy with goals.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

It's an interesting debate. I think as De Bruyne matures his passing % will increase. The question is if that 26% is costing his team more than the 74% is benefiting them.

I've always hated the passing % stat because there's no context behind the stat.

Player could have 100 passes all played within 5 yards and all backwards and sideways complete 98 of them and produced zero in terms of the game whereas another player could have make 100 passes complete 75 have 50 within 5 yards 30 within 10 yards etc have a low completion pct but put 5 balls through for top drawer goal scoring chances.

A decent amount of KDBs passes are in the final third and they often are passes with incisive intent.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

It's an interesting debate. I think as De Bruyne matures his passing % will increase. The question is if that 26% is costing his team more than the 74% is benefiting them.

I've always hated the passing % stat because there's no context behind the stat.

Player could have 100 passes all played within 5 yards and all backwards and sideways complete 98 of them and produced zero in terms of the game whereas another player could have make 100 passes complete 75 have 50 within 5 yards 30 within 10 yards etc have a low completion pct but put 5 balls through for top drawer goal scoring chances.

A decent amount of KDBs passes are in the final third and they often are passes with incisive intent.

Well I'm talking about comparing his pass percentages to others in his position (#10s, attacking midfielders).

Guys like Mata, Eden, Silva, Isco, James. I haven't looked em up, but I'm confident none of em have a pass percentage below 80-85. We know they all are creative and try risky passes just like KDB, so it's a fine to compare pass percentages in this context.

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

Well I'm talking about comparing his pass percentages to others in his position (#10s, attacking midfielders).

Guys like Mata, Eden, Silva, Isco, James. I haven't looked em up, but I'm confident none of em have a pass percentage below 80-85. We know they all are creative and try risky passes just like KDB, so it's a fine to compare pass percentages in this context.

Not one of these players passes as risky as De Bruyne. 85-90% of their passes are normal standard passes, ofcourse they have a higher percentage then. Of all these players, KDB has certainly the best passing game.

[DaddysHobby 60]

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[DaddysHobby 60]

74% is unacceptable. No one at top level is allowed to have such a completion rate. It's not even up to discussion. Just take a look at the best attacking midfielders in the world.

Reus is unacceptable too?

[Gilvorak 3,734]

74% is misleading. He plays in a fast paced, counter attacking system. He attempts a lot of long balls, killer passes and crosses. His passing percentage was above 80% in the WC IRC.

Did someone label KDB unathletic btw? Lol

[DaddysHobby 60]

74% is misleading. He plays in a fast paced, counter attacking system. He attempts a lot of long balls, killer passes and crosses. His passing percentage was above 80% in the WC IRC.

Did someone label KDB unathletic btw? Lol

Yep that's correct and James had a passing percentage below 80%.

[DYC. 7,542]

Reus is unacceptable too?

Reus plays on the wing. And he's not a playmaker. If you can name just three top playmakers with a low pass completion %, I have said nothing.

I'm telling you, man. If KDB moves to a top side, his passing percentage will eventually shoot up. Kroos went through a similar development.

[SykikJV 146]

The point is that at the top teams 74% will not cut it. It's fine for Wolfsburg but that's not good enough at a European elite. I bet you other than strikers and goalkeepers you won't find a single player with 74% pass completion at any of the top teams in Europe (other than Athletico possibly and Dortmund in previous years).

You're right, the types of passes he tries are very high risk but there should be a better balance. It's fine at Wolfsburg since he's their only outlet but with better players around him that won't cut it.

Similarly, a guy like Schurrle will fit at Wolfsburg because he'll get you the goals but outside of that we know his passing is nothing special, his dribbling and ball control skills aren't up to par either. He needed the goals AND those other attributes if he ever wanted to regularly start at a top team. While at Wolfsburg, they'll be happy with goals.

It's about what your coach and team are expecting of you, isn't it? At Wolfsburg KDB plays very high up the pitch. Most of the time when he has the ball, he's in the final third of the pitch, where coach and team are expecting him to be decisive.

Wolfsburg are playing a very direct and fast style of football too. When they have the ball, they play it forward very fast, reminding me a bit about Klopps Dortmund. They score lots of goals after breaking fast when winning back the ball.

So yes, KDB's pass-percentage is a bit low, but this isn't necessarily a part of KDB's game. At Genk he played a few games as CM, he played more safe in that position. Although I agree that KDB is a player that likes to play on the break and likes to play direct.