Mufassir08 2,400 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 The only real question we must ask ourselves is of course: why would Chelsea want Schurrle if you have De Bruyne?Because he is a shiny new toy that emenalo wants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goemaere 131 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 So De Bruyne is on the same level as our 2nd best player this season (some would argue the best) then? I don't think he's on Hazard's level, very few are. He's a gem and I have watched Bremen a few times just because of him but on Hazard's level right now? I don't think so. Very few are. I know he performs for Belgium but one shouldn't solely use that as a perimeter to measure how good a player is. KdB hasn't done for Bremen what Hazard has done for Lille.I'm interested in knowing, many think Hazard could be the best player in the PL next season, can you say the same about KdB? I think people are starting to overrate the guy which isn't good. Let's just take it slow with him shall we?The thing is, Hazard is a flashy player like Ronaldo and messi. De bruyne is a player like Pirlo or zidane (age 23-29. They'll never get as many spotlight but to say they are worse players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 No i dont think KDB is at hazard's level but thats hardly insulting is it?Not many players are on edens level but KDB in his own right is a phenomenal player who would walk into almost all the sides in the BPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtraxion 100 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Just give the lad a proper chance before selling him. That's what everyone's thinking defending him now. Selling him before having played for Chelsea would be very, very stupid. After having played for us, than we can argue again about his potential for our squad. I can't imagine somebody arguing with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 So De Bruyne is on the same level as our 2nd best player this season (some would argue the best) then? I don't think he's on Hazard's level yet, very few are. He's a gem and I have watched Bremen a few times just because of him but on Hazard's level right now? I don't think so. Very few are. I know he performs for Belgium but one shouldn't solely use that as a perimeter to measure how good a player is. KdB hasn't done for Bremen what Hazard has done for Lille.I'm interested in knowing, many think Hazard could be the best player in the PL next season, can you say the same about KdB? I think people are starting to overrate the guy which isn't good. Let's just take it slow with him shall we?True .... He has the same talent, and it is starting to show. Big time. It had already happened in the NT. Also, this is throwing us off. Some wondered what the fuss what about, he was just one of the youngsters, we have better ...Only fair that got a response, Skipper !! The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 The thing is, Hazard is a flashy player like Ronaldo and messi. De bruyne is a player like Pirlo or zidane (age 23-29. They'll never get as many spotlight but to say they are worse players...Zidane gets recognised plenty of times, Pirlo is known as one of the elite midfielders on the planet... KDB has potential to be world class for sure, but to say he's pretty much there already (Hazard is definitely a world class player) is a bit too far IMO. He will be soon, especially at a better team, but I think we need to take it a bit slower with KDB. Also, I don't think the board will sell him. People are just looking for something to moan at. Bir_CFC, semiller1313, bababoom and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 So De Bruyne is on the same level as our 2nd best player this season (some would argue the best) then? I don't think he's on Hazard's level yet, very few are. He's a gem and I have watched Bremen a few times just because of him but on Hazard's level right now? I don't think so. Very few are. I know he performs for Belgium but one shouldn't solely use that as a perimeter to measure how good a player is. KdB hasn't done for Bremen what Hazard has done for Lille.I'm interested in knowing, many think Hazard could be the best player in the PL next season, can you say the same about KdB? I think people are starting to overrate the guy which isn't good. Let's just take it slow with him shall we?Give him the solid platform and he could do so. He & Hunt have carried a horrible horrible Bremen side week in week out. One of the worst defences I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Really is it that simple?De bruyne: better vision, better kick, better cross, more work rate, can play in more positions, defends better and has better stats/game.While I do agree Hazard is better, De bruyne is at the same level.Not that i expect you to know that, considering you haven't seen De bruyne play for more than 12 minutes at most. Love how specific you are, 12 minutes at most huh? i wonder how you came to that conclusion... I would not be to sure about that. Hazard is much more spectacular, ow yes. Kevin is .... effective, deadly effective. Also a metronome, he would rock our midfield in an 8 position.I do rate KDB high, but for me Hazard has the potential to be one of the best players in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Give him the solid platform and he could do so. He & Hunt have carried a horrible horrible Bremen side week in week out. One of the worst defences I have ever seen.I know, I think the same, if you see my second post on him you'll see that - but the thing is he hasn't had that solid platform yet so to say he's on Hazard's level already is a bit too far at the moment because he hasn't been given that opportunity at a stable platform yet. He can definitely get there though. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo 28 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 When kdb comes and is force to play on the wings, you can imagine the same response Oscar had this season...Everyone will say he needs to play centrally, etc..Chelsea going to have a.big problem keeping all these players happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I do rate KDB high, but for me Hazard has the potential to be one of the best players in Europe. He already is. KDB does too, but I wouldn't call him one of the best in Europe just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo 28 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 The thing is, Hazard is a flashy player like Ronaldo and messi. De bruyne is a player like Pirlo or zidane (age 23-29. They'll never get as many spotlight but to say they are worse players...Zidane and pirlo are flashy players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 After courtois he is the best youth/loanee we have! Id argue lukaku was but that still isnt the point I was making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I want KDB back here in that regista role to be honest. We don't really need to sign a DLP if we just give this guy a chance (and maybe try Oscar there as well). I'd love to see him work with Mourinho on his defensive side to the game, he's young enough. Only way he'd really fit into our team as well. Stingray and yuvala 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 He already is. KDB does too, but I wouldn't call him one of the best in Europe just yet.Imo i don't think he's there yet., he needs to add more goals and assist to his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Definately the best youth player we have, Courtois excluded. Shitloads better than Moses, Marin and Benayoun(lol).He's currently better than Oscar as well. People SHOULD be worried. Selling him would be the worst piece of business since signing Torres.I'm inclined to think you don't watch a lot of Bremen's games. He's carried them and kept them in the Bundesliga almost on his own. hes not better than oscar and hes certainly not better than hazard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Zidane and pirlo are flashy players.Zidane is, but Pirlo? no way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaan 263 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Dont like all this comparisons with hazard or oscar but have to say KDB has shown more consistency than Oscar or hazard in a poor bremen side and also in International matches and also imo he look like a player who has the mindset to be one of the best like hazard..... can he fullfill it here? thats the question...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Imo i don't think he's there yet., he needs to add more goals and assist to his game.Well, he's got 15 goals and 21 assists this season which is definitely up there with the best if you ask me, and he's only going to improve. Already one of the star players in the PL, so surely he's one of the best in Europe already as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 hes not better than oscar and hes certainly not better than hazardOk man !! Your eloquence and well-founded opinion just rocked my boat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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