BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 No worries, I was ignorant of that. I didn't mean or want to offend anyone. I got defensive because I though you were being aggresive.I'm pretty insecure about Australia and tend to be very beligerent with Englishmen and New Zealanders. I've never had a problem with any other nationality of the British Isles though .Nah I wasn't being aggressive, I tend to use a lot of expletives when I'm being aggressive towards someone I know you didn't mean to offend anyone, I'm just saying I know someone who went fucking ballistic because an Australian bloke called him a Pom All pretty pathetic if you ask me, it's all just semantics anyway!The amount the club decides to pay players is immaterial to us as fans, its what the club has decided they are willing to pay avbs NUMBER 1 choice. People can complain all they want about the money hes reportedly going to earn but its pointless because very little in the world of football finances makes any sence. People can continue to say its a lot for just a bolton player but he is the first choice for avb ..that's good enough for me ktbffhGood post mate. As I've already said, people are dismissing Cahill because he plays for Bolton, but the reality is that he is definitely a good defensive player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I care because it sends a wrong message. We were already at a top level with Kalou and his £60k-a-week wage, now we have reached a whole new level. For instance, Modirc is on a £40k-a-week wage. Malouda when he was one of our very best player has signed a £80k-a-week wage. Mata who was a proven good player with a lot of potential is on a £60k-a-week wage. I can't understand how an average defender (yes, because defenders are always less paid than forwards, both in wage and transfer fees) could earn 80k per week !What's now when will try to sign a player of the caliber of Mata and offer him a £70k-per-week wage, he will laugh out loud.And I don't need to have the club's books to know that we were trying to reduce our wage bill, and this transfer is against this.But the wage bill is already on the decline, so if the club have decided they can afford to pay Cahill the alleged 80K a week then there is no problem here.The thing is, you do need the books in front of you. None of us know the exact contracts the players are on, the ins and outs, bonuses etc. Without this information all we can do is speculate. Speculation is fine, but people on here act as if they know what needs done and what needs changing, which you couldn't possibly without all the relevant information.The amount the club decides to pay players is immaterial to us as fans, its what the club has decided they are willing to pay avbs NUMBER 1 choice. People can complain all they want about the money hes reportedly going to earn but its pointless because very little in the world of football finances makes any sence. People can continue to say its a lot for just a bolton player but he is the first choice for avb ..that's good enough for me ktbffhGood post mate. As I've already said, people are dismissing Cahill because he plays for Bolton, but the reality is that he is definitely a good defensive player.Amen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Daily Fail's titles are so decieving:Chelsea seal £30m Cahill deal as Bolton defender finally says yes to Blues move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Nah I wasn't being aggressive, I tend to use a lot of expletives when I'm being aggressive towards someone I know you didn't mean to offend anyone, I'm just saying I know someone who went fucking ballistic because an Australian bloke called him a Pom All pretty pathetic if you ask me, it's all just semantics anyway! He wouldn't survive long over here then. A lot of English people I've met complain about how much we swear in everyday conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 After all, we might as well give to Kalou what he seeks for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I can't understand how an average defender (yes, because defenders are always less paid than forwards, both in wage and transfer fees) could earn 80k per week !What's now when will try to sign a player of the caliber of Mata and offer him a £70k-per-week wage, he will laugh out loud.If I had to guess I'd say he managed to get the alleged contract due to his fee being relatively low because Cahill over the past few seasons declined new contracts from Bolton effectively losing potential income. A player would naturally want to make up for that lost income with his new contract.It's similar to players who run down their contracts getting sign-on fees at their new club and higher wages than they would had they had a transfer fee.In the end both wages' and transfer fees' effect on the account of the club is very similar due to amortization.The most striking recent example of that fact is how Anderlecht's Milan Jovanovic was on 120k p/w at Liverpool due to signing for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Yeh looks like it's confirmed now. They're saying the signing will be announced pre-match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The amount the club decides to pay players is immaterial to us as fans, its what the club has decided they are willing to pay avbs NUMBER 1 choice. People can complain all they want about the money hes reportedly going to earn but its pointless because very little in the world of football finances makes any sence. People can continue to say its a lot for just a bolton player but he is the first choice for avb ..that's good enough for me ktbffhWhy would you willingly ignore the financial side of football when you realise that economics are the number 1 factor shaping modern football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 ITS DONE GUYS!!Welcome to Stamford Bridge, Gary Cahill. Just walked past me and the #cfc shop in a smart suit and tie - via @legardj Jonathan LegardGary Cahill at Stamford Bridge. Contract signed and medical passed. Will watch his new team in action today. - via @garbosj Ian McGarry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 After all, we might as well give to Kalou what he seeks for...A fair point to make. The difference though, is that you've seen Kalou play in a Chelsea shirt and have come to a fair conclusion. Wait until Cahill has been here for a while, then cast judgement. Maybe as you say, he is average at Bolton. But giving him the benefit of the doubt, and assuming he's better than that, how much of his potential could he really show at an average, or even below average (this season) team?Why would you willingly ignore the financial side of football when you realise that economics are the number 1 factor shaping modern football?Because there is nothing we can do about it. It is what it is. Also, it's all relative. 80K a week, if that's how much he is actually on, may seem a lot, but it's not if you can afford it... and we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 LOL Ian McGarry Anyway Twitter's blowing up with rumours of a pre-match unveiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Kostas : Yeah, I know this. That's why he didn't sign a new contract for Bolton. But to my eyes, it shouldn't be a reason to us to pay him over the odds and to accesses to his demand. It's not like he was a superb player. Plus mind you we've already been ripped off by Bolton (for the fee). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 LOL Ian McGarry Anyway Twitter's blowing up with rumours of a pre-match unveiling.Think it's real because Dan Levene confirmed it and he's a legit Chels source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Kostas : Yeah, I know this. That's why he didn't sign a new contract for Bolton. But to my eyes, it shouldn't be a reason to us to pay him to overpay him and to accesses to his demand. It's not like he was a superb player. Plus mind you we've already been ripped off by Bolton (for the fee).For a player who was said to be worth 17 millions just 12 months ago the combined costs of the fee and his wages over 5 years are not as unreasonable as this thread is making them sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Wanted to bump this thread but it appears some genius locked it. Kudos to CJ Revo for creating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Wanted to bump this thread but it appears some genius locked it. Kudos to CJ Revo for creating it. I'd voted Cahill as well. That was more due to my lack of information on the other 2 tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I cant believe he is getting 23 million pounds over the duration of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Wanted to bump this thread but it appears some genius locked it. Kudos to CJ Revo for creating it.Crazy to think that we got both Luiz and Cahill We should make a new vote between Hazard, Neymar and Gotze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Next summer.. Kjaer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Why would you willingly ignore the financial side of football when you realise that economics are the number 1 factor shaping modern football?simple answer , because you nor i can effect anything by worrying about it so why bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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