robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Disagree. I think Zouma's got great natural defensive ability. He reads the game very well.Call me speaker for the dead.That he does.His passing seems a bit awkward though; Zouma has to adjust his posture to pass the football and that's never a good sign. Too much effort to do something that's supposed to be natural for a footballer - something so basic. It might be just his youth, and frankly nerves, but he does not seem comfortable on the ball at all. Muzchap and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Call me speaker for the dead.That he does.His passing seems a bit awkward though; Zouma has to adjust his posture to pass the football and that's never a good sign. Too much effort to do something that's supposed to be natural for a footballer - something so basic. It might be just his youth, and frankly nerves, but he does not seem comfortable on the ball at all.My fear for Zouma being the future of our defence is that when we play out from the back, teams will just press him knowing he's very uncomfortable with the ball and thus an easy target for turnovers. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafc9010 224 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 My fear for Zouma being the future of our defence is that when we play out from the back, teams will just press him knowing he's very uncomfortable with the ball and thus an easy target for turnovers.Yeah he just seems like a smarter Sakho on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 My fear for Zouma being the future of our defence is that when we play out from the back, teams will just press him knowing he's very uncomfortable with the ball and thus an easy target for turnovers.He might be uncomfortable but at least he can pass the ball, unlike Cahill, the typical English kick-and-run centre-back who, recently, seems to panic every time he has the ball at his feet. CHOULO19 and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 He might be uncomfortable but at least he can pass the ball, unlike Cahill, the typical English kick-and-run centre-back who, recently, seems to panic every time he has the ball at his feet.Nothing panics him more than the opposition running at him though. I remember in the first half when we'd lost possession and Sporting had begun a counter attack heading straight towards Cahill. Luis gesticulated at Cahill telling him to go towards the loose ball because he was close enough to win it but instead he just backed off and off. Sigh. The Skipper, CHOULO19 and BlueLion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Nothing panics him more than the opposition running at him though. I remember in the first half when we'd lost possession and Sporting had begun a counter attack heading straight towards Cahill. Luis gesticulated to Cahill telling him to go towards the loose ball because he was close enough to win it but instead he just backed off and off. Sigh.I literally facepalmed when that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 He might be uncomfortable but at least he can pass the ball, unlike Cahill, the typical English kick-and-run centre-back who, recently, seems to panic every time he has the ball at his feet.I thought you like that sort of defending iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The backing off thing is literally Cahill's trademark. He has done it millions of times and so many times it has costed us a goal. He did against Adebayor against Spurs when we were managed by Benitez, he did it against Marcelo during the friendly against Real. He's done it against many more opponents but my memory does not serve me well.He is sort of defender that panics whenever he gets the ball. I don't want to take away anything from his great performances last season, but this season with the team applying a more positive approach to games he has got exposed many times. I wish we could get Varane. He amazes me with his composure and ball control whenever I watch him. Its not just that, he is a phenomenal player in terms of defending as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I thought you like that sort of defending I do when it's done correctly, Cahill's tendency to back off is as un-English as you can get from a defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 I do when it's done correctly, Cahill's tendency to back off is as un-English as you can get from a defenderHaha I know mate. For all the typical "english style defender" Terry is, his left foot can find a pass like the best of them! BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 our 'new Oscar' didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Haha I know mate. For all the typical "english style defender" Terry is, his left foot can find a pass like the best of them!JT's technical ability has always been criminally underrated. Igi26, LDN Blue, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 JT's technical ability has always been criminally underrated. Still feel like JT is underrated in general. Said it before but the best English CB in the PL era for me, based on his consistency especially. He's again having one of his best seasons and he's 34 now, it's incredible. CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 our 'new Oscar'we have lost our previous PL game, need a scapegoat until a victory!!! RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 we have lost our previous PL game, need a scapegoat until a victory!!!I always feel like you're yelling at everyone. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I always feel like you're yelling at everyone.that was just sarcasm!!! no yelling!!! but i have definitely seen a trend on this forum. after every poor result there simply has to be a victim. after sunderland, jose got a lot of stick!!! there was someone who said that we needed a "defensive overhaul" in the next window. and after the newcastle game, GC is the latest vic. i am just glad that JOM had a good performance, otherwise he would suddenly have become a pub player mooching off off us. Clevemayer and RoyalBlues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 that was just sarcasm!!! no yelling!!! but i have definitely seen a trend on this forum. after every poor result there simply has to be a victim. after sunderland, jose got a lot of stick!!! there was someone who said that we needed a "defensive overhaul" in the next window. and after the newcastle game, GC is the latest vic. i am just glad that JOM had a good performance, otherwise he would suddenly have become a pub player mooching off off us. I think he was talking about the several exclamation marks you use. didierforever, iseah100 and CHOULO19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 What happened to the rumors about him being offered a pay rise? He's already on something like 90-100k a week, the board should be careful not to put him on a higher salary than that. He's a squad player at best and I would hate to see a situation where his high wages is what gets him in the starting line-up and not performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 What happened to the rumors about him being offered a pay rise? He's already on something like 90-100k a week, the board should be careful not to put him on a higher salary than that. He's a squad player at best and I would hate to see a situation where his high wages is what gets him in the starting line-up and not performances. lol, forgot abot that. Poor old Cahill, didn't make it in time. Blue Colored Sky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 What happened to the rumors about him being offered a pay rise? He's already on something like 90-100k a week, the board should be careful not to put him on a higher salary than that. He's a squad player at best and I would hate to see a situation where his high wages is what gets him in the starting line-up and not performances. a squad player who has a total of 1845 minutes in this season so far and our most used player?? also according to WAGNH and other media sources (both of which give the higher limit), he is on 80k a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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