🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Frank Lampard

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Perhaps, Frank did not have all good games, but overall he is still needed. Why do you think, he has already played in most of the games ? Was Jose wrong to play him, then ?

Well that's the million dollar question, isn't it? Why is Jose persisting with Frank even though the vast majority of people can see how bad he has been? Is Jose playing him because of his past glories? Or can he see something that we all can't? This is completely beyond me, but I hope we fix it soon because it's costing us games.

[Phil Driver 503]

A lot of people are missing the point here ,is Lampard scoring as many goals as he once did ?

No

Why?

Because he is playing much deeper.

Would he have been more of a threat in a more forward role yesrerday?

I think yes definiteley. He would have at least had a shot from distance and would have arrived in the box from midfield,we were awful going forward.

Is he better than Mikel in the holding role?.

Yes he is useless and we would have lost yesterday with him in,Mikel' stats are terrible win/play. And he needs to leave the club if he is so good because a 35 year old has taken his place.

Our problem yesterday was our front 4 and Mr Luiz ,not our midfield pair who gave our front playrers 61% possession .

zeez eeez facts.

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

Lampard's touch and passing are gone as well, an oil tanker turns quicker than him now, as for his shooting, refer to his free kicks of late, just out and out poor.

A little article for those whose heads are cemented deep into the sand.

Chelsea fans react on Twitter to Lampard performance v Newcastle http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2013/11/02/chelsea-fans-react-on-twitter-to-lampard-performance-v-newcastle/

[Phil Driver 503]

Corners were our best chance of scoring yesterday and Luiz took our free kick and it sailed over the bar .

[bushman 2,043]

Well that's the million dollar question, isn't it? Why is Jose persisting with Frank even though the vast majority of people can see how bad he has been? Is Jose playing him because of his past glories? Or can he see something that we all can't? This is completely beyond me, but I hope we fix it soon because it's costing us games.

Majority of people, where here ?

Frank has not cost the team any games, as you may think. No matter what any of you experts post here, frank has helped the team, so far. I do admit, he has not been at his best in all games, though. The team´s squad is too large, as Jose admitted.

" I can not please all players, he says. " Do something with it, then. BA, Mikel, Essien, KDB, Bertrand are sitting around.

Just one thing, I´d like to add here. Do you remember Frank & his free kicks of last year ? These days, shitty Luiz hugs them all. Where do most of them end up ? I know, up in the nowhere sections.

[Phil Driver 503]

Lampard's touch and passing are gone as well, an oil tanker turns quicker than him now, as for his shooting, refer to his free kicks of late, just out and out poor.

A little article for those whose heads are cemented deep into the sand.

Chelsea fans react on Twitter to Lampard performance v Newcastle http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2013/11/02/chelsea-fans-react-on-twitter-to-lampard-performance-v-newcastle/

And what do these so called fans have to say about? - Luiz,Oscar,Mata who were our worst performers and created nothing in a game they did not fancy up north .

Put Lampard in the ten role and we score and create something in that game a shot would have been nice , Oscar and Mata did nothing all day did not create one chance or look like running past Torres. On a day like that in those conditions players will misplace passes it is all about who is the hardest and wants it most,that is why John Terry played so well ,he is hard and he wants the fight ,too many of our tippy tappy players did not ,it was like watchng Arsenal. Lampard was in fact better than Ramires on the day.

[Tomo 21,751]

Well Jose is the one who keeps picking him all the time. Yet other players seem to be the ones who get dropped at random (e.g Schurrle), its seems weird that Lampard never gets the same treatment.

Because we have shit loads of options in attacking midfield, we don't have the same luxury in the pivot.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Because we have shit loads of options in attacking midfield, we don't have the same luxury in the pivot.

Well, Mikel has been very good in every single appearance he's made for us this season bar 45 mins at spurs while Frank has had more bad games than good. There are no excuses why he continues to be selected.

[Phil Driver 503]

Mikel is useless and needs to leave ,Lampard is one of the players who needs to play over christmas ,some of you foreign fans do not understand what it is like to play in Engalnd in winter ,it is worse than it looks on the TV and for instance our away game at West Ham where Mikel was atrocious last season and was walked all over will be a game where we need our power players and Lampard is one of them ,maybe even Essien ,short sideways passes are even worse in winter than they look in summer,Mikel will be better off at the African nations ans leave our games to Essien,Lampard ,Cahill,Terry,Schurrle and Ramires.

Our problem yesterday was our sunshine players Mata,Oscar,Luiz could not cope withe the conditions . Lampard is a must especially at this time maybe even as an AM with Essien and Rammy also in the engine room ,our tippy tappy player need to wait for calmer weather . Without being patronising some of our foreign fans really do not understand winter football in England.

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

Well, Mikel has been very good in every single appearance he's made for us this season bar 45 mins at spurs while Frank has had more bad games than good. There are no excuses why he continues to be selected.

The only plausible explanation I can think of is that Mourinho will definitely bring in a DM/CM in January meaning that Lampard only has until then to play, after that he'll barely make the bench until his contract run out.

He got sacked in our last two games at the 60 minute mark - which were about 60 minutes too late incidentally on each occasion.

[Phil Driver 503]

Lampard's touch and passing are gone as well, an oil tanker turns quicker than him now, as for his shooting, refer to his free kicks of late, just out and out poor.

A little article for those whose heads are cemented deep into the sand.

Chelsea fans react on Twitter to Lampard performance v Newcastle http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2013/11/02/chelsea-fans-react-on-twitter-to-lampard-performance-v-newcastle/

@ a few Nigerian fanboys commenting on twitter,tell them it is cold ,wet and muddy over here in England .

[YouNameIt 1,511]

We cannot keep playing Lampard+Ramires that is for sure. It is taking away what they both do best, from both of them,

Lampard isnt a defender and his passing has become quite poor. Ramires is at his best when we can burst forward alot more, but by playing with Lampard he is somewhat hindered from doing that.

I dont understand why we arent seeing Essien play more.

Essien+Ramires

Essien+Lampard

Im sure that would be ALOT better. Even Mikel with them both, but maybe first and foremost Mikel+Ramires.

[chelseafc9010 224]

I get the idea that a lot of people here don't want Frank to be starting?

[Sheva. 5,373]

I get the idea that a lot of people here don't want Frank to be starting?

I don't mind him, think he's done alright for the most part, but there are games he shouldn't be starting - yet Mourinho starts him all the time and realizes he made a mistake in the 60th minute.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Well that's the million dollar question, isn't it? Why is Jose persisting with Frank even though the vast majority of people can see how bad he has been? Is Jose playing him because of his past glories? Or can he see something that we all can't? This is completely beyond me, but I hope we fix it soon because it's costing us games.

Not even close to resembling my experience of supporters' views.

We need a replacement but at the moment, Frank and Rami seem to be our best pairing.

I get the idea that a lot of people here don't want Frank to be starting?

I think you're seeing a vocal minority who probably aren't representative of Chelsea's support as a whole.

Lampard isnt a defender and his passing has become quite poor.

Actually his passing has been pretty good in the month of October, roughly around the 90% mark and especially high when it comes to long balls.

But that's the type of thing people don't really want to talk about. I apologise for bringing things like this up, because it gets in the way of a couple of supporters making sweeping generalisations based on 16 year olds' twitter accounts.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Not even close to resembling my experience of supporters' views.

We need a replacement but at the moment, Frank and Rami seem to be our best pairing.

Just check what people are writing here and who they want to start the next match. Check the Schalke match thread. On Twitter as well. When I was doing the match feed yesterday, everyone was tweeting me about Lampard and how Rami-Mikel should be our starting pivot.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Just check what people are writing here and who they want to start the next match. Check the Schalke match thread. On Twitter as well. When I was doing the match feed yesterday, everyone was tweeting me about Lampard and how Rami-Mikel should be our starting pivot.

Sorry but twitter and a few people on here aren't what I'd call representative of the Chelsea support. Just look at that link ChelseasMessiah posted.

It's very easy to have a kneejerk reaction and post something that you haven't fully thought through (like 'tactically raped' - not a comment many Chelsea supporters would deem culturally acceptable). But maybe I'm wrong and you're more attuned to what Chelsea supporters are thinking than I am.

[bushman 2,043]

Now, I read some people aren´t representatives of Chelsea by our finest expert here.

Unbelievable, in my view to see it.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Sorry but twitter and a few people on here aren't what I'd call representative of the Chelsea support. Just look at that link ChelseasMessiah posted.

It's very easy to have a kneejerk reaction and post something that you haven't fully thought through (like 'tactically raped' - not a comment many Chelsea supporters would deem culturally acceptable). But maybe I'm wrong and you're more attuned to what Chelsea supporters are thinking than I am.

The vast majority of the hundreds of Chelsea fans I know and can read their opinions believe that Frank has been generally bad this season. If you want to go into classifying who is "worthy" and who is not, then I'm not going to join you, sorry.

[chelseafc9010 224]

I think Lamps should be dropped..

He is a legend and all, he gets goals and is a rather good player in the final 3rd, but Jose wants us to play a style which is quick and aggresive, lots of pressure and lots of passing, therefore I think our first 11 should not have Lamps in it, he is getting on now and does not have the legs to keep up with the other players.

I love how we played against Arsenal in the Carling Cup, one reason for that was because of Mikel and Essien in midfield, I prefer Ramires over them two but it showed how without Lamps we are better, because our team can provide more pressure, and more running around the pitch, more support for the team mates.