LFC's support for Suárez

[Liquidator 5,176]

WOW Liverpool fans are just incest twats. Some of those tweets are just disgraceful beyond belief:

Regardless of his guilt or not, LFC fans are just reaffirming themselves (if it was even needed) as the mindless idiots most of them are!

and they call us chavs...

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Liverpool uploaded this. Their really doing everything and anything lol Anyways this doesn't take away from his being a cunt, I wonder how much he was paid?

[Hd123 5]

WOW Liverpool fans are just incest twats. Some of those tweets are just disgraceful beyond belief:

Regardless of his guilt or not, LFC fans are just reaffirming themselves (if it was even needed) as the mindless idiots most of them are!

No surprise there, move along. Being a giant wanker is part of the requirements of being involved with LFC.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I don’t know much about South American culture and slang. I do know, however, a little about the mechanics of confrontation. Even at Sunday League level, I’ve had verbal spats and faced down opposition players from Everton Valley to East Los Angeles. As a fan, I’ve exchanged insults — and worse — with rival supporters from Trafford Park to the Tiber.

That’s just the football-related stuff. In real life, I’ve been in the middle of riots, squared up to police on picket lines and fought fascist bully-boys with bare knuckles.

What have I learnt? Not much, but enough to know that if I’m having a row with a black man and I make a reference to his colour, he’s going to think it’s a racist slur.

Luis Suárez, Liverpool Football Club and legions of their fans seem bewildered that the word negrito directed at a black man in the course of an argument would lead the individual concerned to assume that he had been racially abused.

Nobody would deny that the exchange between Suárez and Patrice Evra was acrimonious. Nobody would deny that the word negrito makes reference to blackness. So where are Suárez’s grounds for defence?

Well, the linguistic experts tell us that negrito is not a pejorative term. In fact, it appears that it is a friendly phrase in Hispanic culture. In one defence of the Liverpool striker, the writer talked of hearing a young, white woman with a dark complexion being referred to by the same term during a business transaction in Buenos Aires.

The problem with this is that Evra is not a young white woman, nor is he Hispanic. He is a short, black Frenchman, who, from his perspective, appears to have been called something akin to “little black boy” by someone he was having a row with. Suárez, quite clearly, was not being genial. He was winding up Evra on the pitch in the heat of a Liverpool v Manchester United game. No wonder the defender felt racially abused.

In September, a mere handful of Liverpool fans would have even heard the term negrito. Now they are experts in the semantics of Hispanic slang, describing in detail how it is a term of affection. Well, if Suárez was being affectionate to a United player during a game, the club should crack down on him. An eight-game ban? Surely that should be a sackable offence?

There are so many words in English, French and Spanish that can be used in a quarrel that referencing colour in any way seems at best ill-advised and at worst racist. Either way it’s ****** stupid.

Suárez may not have had any racist intent but the Hispanic subtleties were lost on Evra. They’d be lost on most in Britain.

So this unedifying spat continues with Liverpool supporters — almost to a man — behind Suárez.

It is embarrassing. Is it not possible for Liverpool fans to have some empathy with Evra? To see that he felt racially abused? Seemingly not in the pathetically tribal world of football, where basic decencies are thrown out the window and the “my club right or wrong” ethic prevails.

If it were all a cultural misunderstanding, why didn’t Liverpool nip it in the bud in October? It may be me, but once the word negrito cropped up I winced. I may be culturally naive, but it sounded ugly. It would sound worse to a black man.

The club should have put out a statement that read something like this: “Patrice Evra has alleged that Luis Suárez made racist remarks to him during the game at Anfield. Suárez denies this emphatically but has come to realise that it was easy for Evra to misunderstand the nuances of the Spanish phrase used and believe that he had been racially abused. Suárez would like to apologise unreservedly for any upset caused and make clear that he is against racism and discrimination in all its forms. It was a poor choice of words in the context but any student of South American culture will explain it has no racial overtones. In future, Liverpool Football Club will issue its players with a set of guidelines as to what is acceptable and not acceptable.”

Effectively, just say sorry, I didn’t mean that, I feel a bit stupid now.

Suárez is not a racist but he has been a fool. The trick is not to compound foolishness.

Instead, Liverpool put out a statement that threw the blame back at Evra, then gave us the risible sight of Suárez warming up at the DW Stadium before the Wigan Athletic match in a T-shirt supporting himself.

Pointing the finger at Evra is shameful. It can only harden the FA’s determination to make its point. And despite the more rabid conspiracy theorists, this is a battle that the FA would rather not have.

This situation — along with the John Terry/Anton Ferdinand incident — has brought the game into disrepute and exposed racial fault lines in football and society that most thought had been buried forever. One look at the abuse that Stan Collymore — a former Liverpool forward — has been receiving shows that. Sadly, it looks like decency has been buried instead.

Naturally, LFC fans giving him a ton of abuse for this brilliant article.

[Hd123 5]

Naturally, LFC fans giving him a ton of abuse for this brilliant article.

Tl;dr please?

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Tl;dr please?

Say what, now?

[Peace. 4,352]

Naturally, LFC fans giving him a ton of abuse for this brilliant article.

Do you have the link to the article ? Cause this blue background in the quote hurts my eyes...lol..

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Do you have the link to the article ? Cause this blue background in the quote hurts my eyes...lol..

here you are: http://juanmanandhisdug.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/tony-evans-in-the-times/

[francozola 2,040]

Say what, now?

too long; didn't read :lol:

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https://twitter.com/#!/stecastley

Liverpool = King Kenny (KK) = KKK

[Peace. 4,352]

In September, a mere handful of Liverpool fans would have even heard the term negrito. Now they are experts in the semantics of Hispanic slang, describing in detail how it is a term of affection.

LMAO. So true.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Liverpool and their fans are getting even more and more pathetic...

But: If there's no real evidence for his guilty why the fuck was he even suspended? Does Evra's word count more than another player's one? If they took Evra's statement as the only proof to suspend him, then the FA is just a joke. Shouldn't it be "benefit of the doubt", instead of "benefit of Manchester United"???

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

1 More....

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Luis-Suarez-fined-and-banned-over-one-fingered-gesture-at-fans-after-Fulham-game-article846843.html

[Kez 2,727]

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http://www.mirrorfoo...icle846843.html

Next excuse from Suarez, "finger was a sign of affection, he was unaware of the meaning of it in England"

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"Our findings of fact which are directly relevant to the Charge are as follows: (1) In response to Mr Evra's question 'F*****g hell, why did you kick me,' Mr Suarez said 'Because you are black'.

"(2) In response to Mr Evra's comment 'Say it to me again, I'm going to punch you,' Mr Suarez said 'I don't speak to blacks'.

"(3) In response to Mr Evra's comment: 'Okay, now I think I'm going to punch you,' Mr Suarez said 'Okay, blackie, blackie, blackie'."

The FA have released a 115-page report explaining their decision to find Suárez guilty. Now I'm pretty sure this is worse than what Terry said. Scummy Scumpool fans.

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Yeah! More then what he apprantly said thats not offesnvie in other places has come out..kinda oh....

[Ollie 4,400]

WOW Liverpool fans are just incest twats. Some of those tweets are just disgraceful beyond belief:

Regardless of his guilt or not, LFC fans are just reaffirming themselves (if it was even needed) as the mindless idiots most of them are!

So a club can get fined because of chanting from the crowd, so surely Liverpool should get a fine for this too as it is still their fans and they are obviously racist and probably go to games. How can we stamp racism out of the game if we have comments like this.

Anyway, Suarez is guilty anyway, you can tell. I mean ffs he bites ppl

[Laylabelle 9,535]

But remember Suraez needs protection...not sure what from people chanting?! Buy him a pair of ear plugs that solve it.Course he's gana get chanted at but most are adult enough to inore it but nooo not him but its not his fault blah

[Fulham Broadway 17,312]

All the shit about cultural differences -yes the word 'negro' on its own isnt offensive in Uruguay -but the Liverpool defence of this is unbeleivable -no wonder theyre not appealing against the decision......

From the FA....

The FA's case, in short, was as follows. In the goalmouth, Mr Evra and Mr Suarez spoke to each other in Spanish. Mr Evra asked Mr Suarez why he had kicked him, referring to the foul five minutes previously. Mr Suarez replied "Porque tu eres negro", meaning "Because you are black". Mr Evra then said to Mr Suarez “say it to me again, I’m going to punch you”. Mr Suarez replied "No hablo con los negros", meaning "I don't speak to blacks". Mr Evra continued by saying that he now thought he was going to punch Mr Suarez. Mr Suarez replied "Dale, negro, negro, negro", which meant "okay, blackie, blackie, blackie". As Mr Suarez said this, he reached out to touch Mr Evra's arm, gesturing at his skin. Mr Kuyt then intervened. When the referee blew his whistle and called the players over to him shortly after the exchanges in the goalmouth, Mr Evra said to the referee "ref, ref, he just called me a fucking black".

[matty18 15]

The only reason Liverpool have accepted it is because of the run of games he is missing.

He is only missing for 3 more premier league games. Stoke, Wolves and Bolton ( relatively average-poor teams). He is missing 2 fa cup games and 2 carling cup games. He probably would not have even started some of them.

If it had been the other way round and say the ban had been made a month later where he had to miss: Spurs, Everton, Man United, Arsenal, they would have made alot more of a fuss.