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I think we can tie them.

Win would be hard, but if we do it amazing.

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Cech

Bos-Ivan-Terry-Cole

Ramires-Mikel-Meireles

Sturridge-?-Mata

I think Meireles should be good enough to take over Lampard next week, and we need Mikel.

Front, i am still unsure, since non of our strikers are that good at the moment.

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Luiz shouldn't start.. Too risky. And I prefer iva to Alex at CB.

Today and against the Norwich was poor our defence with Iva and Terry, so i think... we should try out Luiz against Leverkursen, and if it will work, then start him! What the defence did today... it was pathetic...

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I think we can tie them.

Win would be hard, but if we do it amazing.

My line-up

Cech

Bos-Ivan-Terry-Cole

Ramires-Mikel-Meireles

Sturridge-?-Mata

I think Meireles should be good enough to take over Lampard next week, and we need Mikel.

Front, i am still unsure, since non of our strikers are that good at the moment.

I think that putting Luiz instead of Ivanovic would be better. Because hes faster and he has shown his quality against man united last season.

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I think that putting Luiz instead of Ivanovic would be better. Because hes faster and he has shown his quality against man united last season.

Yes that's true, but he has not play in a long time....it's a big gamble.

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Don't understand this play for a draw bullshit, were not Swansea, we have gone to Old Trafford with weaker sides and United been stronger and got results.

Pre Roman we use to get results there on a regualar basis. Plus i found this stat that's pretty interesting.

Roberto Di Matteo's West Brom came from 2 down to draw at Old Trafford last season, the last time United blew a 2 goal lead at home was in 2000 in a 3-3 draw to Chelsea, a match that Di Matteo was playing. Di Matteo has never lost at Old Trafford.

Maybe it's meant to be that Di Matteo will never lose there ;)

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The only way we can beat United is simply to be better than them, if we play better than them we can beat them, but if we are playing better than them, THEN WE ARE PLAYING REALLY FUCKING GOOD!.

Cech

Ivanovic-Luiz/Alex-Terry-Cole

Ramires-Mikel-Meireles

Bosingwa-Sturridge-Mata

This is our best chance we have in my opinion, my opinion i don't think we stand a chance when it comes to beating them, we are simply not good enough, but i think we can get a draw if we play really well. Defence needs to be sorted out, and it wasn't sorted against Sunderland no matter what you think, the reason why we didn't get hit hard against Sunderland was simply because this time we had a lot of possesion in midfield, and Sunderland have a weak midfield in my opinion, besides Larsson. We will be hit heavily from Uniteds long balls, so we need to sort this defence out right now!, the team i've got is the only team i think that has the best chance of staying sharp, when you look back at our losses against United, especially the last three when Ryan Giggs ripped us apart with 4 assists in 3 matches, most of them were done by silly errors of stupid defending, by Kalou who wasn't even attempting to tackle Giggs, Bosingwa who let Giggs run straight on past him... and Anelka when he fell asleep and allowed Giggs to run in from from the side and square to Hernandez. Our Players need to be sharp!...

Ivanovic i have always been impressed with so far against United, he usually kicks the shit out of Nani, but Nani he will be troubling Cole this time it seems. The play who i'm most impressed with against United is Ramires, in my opinion he had his best games against United, he was just unbelievable and United struggle against his pace, Meireles played a huge part against United for Liverpool when they won 3-1, fair enough that's Meireles at Liverpool, but after what i saw from last game it looks like he's carried his form, unlike Torres. I'm not going to explain for a 3rd time why Danny is a better choice than Torres to play, so yes i choose Danny. Bosingwa would struggle really hard against Young, he is effective offensively so put him on right wing. Mikel had a great game last time we played United, he calmed the midfield down, and against United midfield is the key, we can do this if we keep possession Mikel just needs to have a good game, Mata will be marked a lot and it's obvious why from what he's displayed in his past two games.

So if we can pile the attention on Mata god knows what will happen, i think it's more likely to go our way, but we can't do any of this if we don't play well. Everyone has to play well, otherwise we will lose.

It's gonna be tough against United but lets see what happens, it's AVB who makes the choices hopefully he gets them all right.

My prediction, we lose 2-1, Hernandez and Rooney scoring both of the goals, Sturridge scores for us.

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Yes that's true, but he has not play in a long time....it's a big gamble.

A big gamble might be just what we need to take, i know if it's wrong it will hit us heavy, but against United i think big gambles are what you have to take, because out of player quality, i bet any money United will be playing much better than us.

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The only way we can beat United is simply to be better than them, if we play better than them we can beat them, but if we are playing better than them, THEN WE ARE PLAYING REALLY FUCKING GOOD!.

Cech

Ivanovic-Luiz/Alex-Terry-Cole

Ramires-Mikel-Meireles

Bosingwa-Sturridge-Mata

This is our best chance we have in my opinion, my opinion i don't think we stand a chance when it comes to beating them, we are simply not good enough, but i think we can get a draw if we play really well. Defence needs to be sorted out, and it wasn't sorted against Sunderland no matter what you think, the reason why we didn't get hit hard against Sunderland was simply because this time we had a lot of possesion in midfield, and Sunderland have a weak midfield in my opinion, besides Larsson. We will be hit heavily from Uniteds long balls, so we need to sort this defence out right now!, the team i've got is the only team i think that has the best chance of staying sharp, when you look back at our losses against United, especially the last three when Ryan Giggs ripped us apart with 4 assists in 3 matches, most of them were done by silly errors of stupid defending, by Kalou who wasn't even attempting to tackle Giggs, Bosingwa who let Giggs run straight on past him... and Anelka when he fell asleep and allowed Giggs to run in from from the side and square to Hernandez. Our Players need to be sharp!...

Ivanovic i have always been impressed with so far against United, he usually kicks the shit out of Nani, but Nani he will be troubling Cole this time it seems. The play who i'm most impressed with against United is Ramires, in my opinion he had his best games against United, he was just unbelievable and United struggle against his pace, Meireles played a huge part against United for Liverpool when they won 3-1, fair enough that's Meireles at Liverpool, but after what i saw from last game it looks like he's carried his form, unlike Torres. I'm not going to explain for a 3rd time why Danny is a better choice than Torres to play, so yes i choose Danny. Bosingwa would struggle really hard against Young, he is effective offensively so put him on right wing. Mikel had a great game last time we played United, he calmed the midfield down, and against United midfield is the key, we can do this if we keep possession Mikel just needs to have a good game, Mata will be marked a lot and it's obvious why from what he's displayed in his past two games.

So if we can pile the attention on Mata god knows what will happen, i think it's more likely to go our way, but we can't do any of this if we don't play well. Everyone has to play well, otherwise we will lose.

It's gonna be tough against United but lets see what happens, it's AVB who makes the choices hopefully he gets them all right.

My prediction, we lose 2-1, Hernandez and Rooney scoring both of the goals, Sturridge scores for us.

WOW! Maybe you should be the coach of CFC, maybe we'll av a chance of losing 3-1.

Bosingwa at RW! WTF!

Get real man!

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And in my opinion - shot me down, if you want - but Lukaku would be in the starting line-up... And why?

- His physical talents are awesome! The Utd's center-backs are really weaks except Vidic, but he is on injury list now.

- This is would be a surprise, they will not prepare for this option!

- Lukaku's positioning is superb! Just check Mata's goal, if Mata passed for him, he will convert it to goal!

- And maybe the most important thing... Just check our strikers form... it is really, really poor... And Lukaku want to demonstrate his commitment of Chelsea! I trust in him, but i know... He will just travel with the squad, but nothing more...

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WOW! Maybe you should be the coach of CFC, maybe we'll av a chance of losing 3-1.

Bosingwa at RW! WTF!

Get real man!

What's wrong with him playing right wing?, his crossing has been very good in his last two games in my opinion and his pace is great, i think he would do really well on the right wing. I never said i am the coach this is what i think, it's a fucking forum you post debates and your opinion on what and what we should do, none of this is going to happen, so don't tell me to get real, you try and get real and understand this is my opinion and i think this would be a good formation against United looking over past performances.

I'm not the manager, and i don't see these players in training, i don't talk to them idividualy i don't know who they are or what they are like, i can only judge from previous performances in matches, like we all can. I even said on my post AVB is the manager and he makes the decisions not me. And Bosingwa is more offence than defence, so why not try him upfront, yes it's a gamble, but a gamble is something we should take in my opinion.

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And in my opinion - shot me down, if you want - but Lukaku would be in the starting line-up... And why?

- His physical talents are awesome! The Utd's center-backs are really weaks except Vidic, but he is on injury list now.

- This is would be a surprise, they will not prepare for this option!

- Lukaku's positioning is superb! Just check Mata's goal, if Mata passed him, he will convert it to goal!

- And maybe the most important thing... Just check our strikers form... it is really, really poor... And Lukaku want to demonstrate his commitment of Chelsea! I trust in him, but i know... He will just travel with the squad, but nothing more...

Lukaku would be brilliant to be honest with two good wingers at the sides, only thing is, it's harsh to throw a 18 year old with only 15 minutes of premier league experience in the Uniteds defence, and by him playing bad could actually ruin his career in my opinion, it would let him down and it wouldn't do him any good, but who knows maybe he's a strong lad and is driven and never gives up, i hope he is. But i like where your coming from, it would be a surprise yes, and a gamble is something we might just need to take.

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And in my opinion - shot me down, if you want - but Lukaku would be in the starting line-up... And why?

- His physical talents are awesome! The Utd's center-backs are really weaks except Vidic, but he is on injury list now.

- This is would be a surprise, they will not prepare for this option!

- Lukaku's positioning is superb! Just check Mata's goal, if Mata passed for him, he will convert it to goal!

- And maybe the most important thing... Just check our strikers form... it is really, really poor... And Lukaku want to demonstrate his commitment of Chelsea! I trust in him, but i know... He will just travel with the squad, but nothing more...

U read my mind i was about to say the same thing.

It would sure suprise Fergie, maybe Andre should let "slip" in the press conference that Torres will play up top then play Lukaku?

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What's wrong with him playing right wing?, his crossing has been very good in his last two games in my opinion and his pace is great, i think he would do really well on the right wing. I never said i am the coach this is what i think, it's a fucking forum you post debates and your opinion on what and what we should do, none of this is going to happen, so don't tell me to get real, you try and get real and understand this is my opinion and i think this would be a good formation against United looking over past performances.

I'm not the manager, and i don't see these players in training, i don't talk to them idividualy i don't know who they are or what they are like, i can only judge from previous performances in matches, like we all can. I even said on my post AVB is the manager and he makes the decisions not me. And Bosingwa is more offence than defence, so why not try him upfront, yes it's a gamble, but a gamble is something we should take in my opinion.

Slow down mate! I guess i'm frustrated by the way manure has been winning shit! Its like their opposition defence goes off and start playn shit! It hurts man!

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Slow down mate! I guess i'm frustrated by the way manure has been winning shit! Its like their opposition defence goes off and start playn shit! It hurts man!

It's okay, we all get frustrated, and yes when we lose to United i will be different on my opinion and getting angry, i know i will, but i also know i will eventually calm down. Now look at the negatives and positives United have from that game, they are in winning form, and are expected to beat us easily next sunday, now Ferguson is a miracle worker, he is just very clever and knows what he has to do to win this game, now theres a chance they can come complacent and over confident, it's unlikely becaues of Ferguson, but there's a chance of it, United at the moment though don't seem to be falling a sleep. They can take advantage if we are playing bad, that's why we can't play bad full stop. I think we will get out played, but who knows, hopefully Ferguson doesn't know much about AVB, and AVB is unpredictable and comes with a sly win. I think we will get trashed if we just play the same team with the same chemistry what we have been doing so far this season. That's why i think a big gamble is what's best for us.

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Lukaku would be brilliant to be honest with two good wingers at the sides, only thing is, it's harsh to throw a 18 year old with only 15 minutes of premier league experience in the Uniteds defence, and by him playing bad could actually ruin his career in my opinion, it would let him down and it wouldn't do him any good, but who knows maybe he's a strong lad and is driven and never gives up, i hope he is. But i like where your coming from, it would be a surprise yes, and a gamble is something we might just need to take.

Yes, maybe this whole notion would be a big gamble, but to be honest, the whole football is it! And just imagine, what would be happening if he score, he would be our Hernandez, maybe, maybe not, but we must to play gamble, to win something big thing. I never trust in any young, like in Lukaku! I know, maybe he don't score against the Man Utd, but I absolute sure, he would do EVERYTHING for the team!

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