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This is the actual reason why people not all people should be so quick to jump to conclusions and condemn lukaku.

" Get him far away as possible from the youth squad" 
"He's a cancer he's rotten "

Did he shot himself in the foot with that interview confessing his love and missing inter and italy

He certainly did
But the main issue Chelsea have to take accountibility

Why buy a player sign off it, then be so stubborn that you won't even adjust your tactics just a little bit, and of top of that belittle him  " is antonio conte your father "  
Like really how low can you go Tuchel ?

I really think Tuchel is definitely one of the best managers that are out there. But he's character leaves a lot to be desired constant moaning.

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28 minutes ago, Amad_diallo said:

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3650467

This is the actual reason why people not all people should be so quick to jump to conclusions and condemn lukaku.

" Get him far away as possible from the youth squad" 
"He's a cancer he's rotten "

Did he shot himself in the foot with that interview confessing his love and missing inter and italy

He certainly did
But the main issue Chelsea have to take accountibility

Why buy a player sign off it, then be so stubborn that you won't even adjust your tactics just a little bit, and of top of that belittle him  " is antonio conte your father "  
Like really how low can you go Tuchel ?

I really think Tuchel is definitely one of the best managers that are out there. But he's character leaves a lot to be desired constant moaning.

No one gives a fuck, trying to make Lukaku seem good on here is pointless, he is a fucking rat stained sack of shit, you would have more luck impregnating a man.

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18 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

No one gives a fuck, trying to make Lukaku seem good on here is pointless, he is a fucking rat stained sack of shit, you would have more luck impregnating a man.

I'm here to have grown-up discussion. All that yapping fuck this fuck that is pointless this is not a video shoot for a rap video behave in a proper manner or dont respond at all !

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1 hour ago, Amad_diallo said:

I'm here to have grown-up discussion. All that yapping fuck this fuck that is pointless this is not a video shoot for a rap video behave in a proper manner or dont respond at all !

🤣🤣 your here to blow smoke up Lukaku arse hole nothing more, nothing less.

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11 hours ago, Amad_diallo said:

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3650467

This is the actual reason why people not all people should be so quick to jump to conclusions and condemn lukaku.

" Get him far away as possible from the youth squad" 
"He's a cancer he's rotten "

Did he shot himself in the foot with that interview confessing his love and missing inter and italy

He certainly did
But the main issue Chelsea have to take accountibility

Why buy a player sign off it, then be so stubborn that you won't even adjust your tactics just a little bit, and of top of that belittle him  " is antonio conte your father "  
Like really how low can you go Tuchel ?

I really think Tuchel is definitely one of the best managers that are out there. But he's character leaves a lot to be desired constant moaning.

This is why folk want rid of him though.

As soon as he did that interview he effectively alienated himself from the manager, the upper management, his teammates and the fans. Its not just shooting himself in the foot, its being disrespectful to the team, manager, fans etc. You only do that interview if you don’t want to be there, same with Ronaldo & Piers Morgan. Its the same. You don’t do something like that if you have any intentions of remaining at a club. I mean the fact Tuchel and several of the senior players had a meeting to discuss what to do with him says it all. 

Everything else you’ve said about the club having to take accountability is so so wrong its a joke, I’m sorry but it is. No other way to say it.

And Tuchel did tailor his tactics and approach to suit Rom a bit more, thats arguably why after the first 6 or 7 games, when things started to get a bit tougher, performances faltered and our “apparent title challenge” evaporated. We changed a more flexible, aggressive, hard working (altho inconsistent output) frontline that had been key to winning the CL to playing with a more fixed, passive way because Rom is different from Havertz.

What Tuchel said happened well after Lukaku’s interview so the damage was already done. So again, to blame Tuchel for a quip which happened when the relationship was already hugely strained from Lukaku’s own actions again is just stupidity. I mean you would be on edge and prickly with somebody, who had made it incredibly clear to Inter 6 or 7 months before that he wanted to move here, done an interview unannounced, wishing he didn’t leave Inter because the manager didn’t want to completely reshape his team for a more limited, one dimensional footballer.

Everything that has transpired for his second spell here is from self sabotage. Same with this summer. Ok maybe he phoned an Anderlecht player or whatever but fucking hell, the way he was here 2nd time round, that doesn’t have any correlation to what he did with that interview.

Saying otherwise is just incredibly naive and looking the other way.

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9 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

This is why folk want rid of him though.

As soon as he did that interview he effectively alienated himself from the manager, the upper management, his teammates and the fans. Its not just shooting himself in the foot, its being disrespectful to the team, manager, fans etc. You only do that interview if you don’t want to be there, same with Ronaldo & Piers Morgan. Its the same. You don’t do something like that if you have any intentions of remaining at a club. I mean the fact Tuchel and several of the senior players had a meeting to discuss what to do with him says it all. 

Everything else you’ve said about the club having to take accountability is so so wrong its a joke, I’m sorry but it is. No other way to say it.

And Tuchel did tailor his tactics and approach to suit Rom a bit more, thats arguably why after the first 6 or 7 games, when things started to get a bit tougher, performances faltered and our “apparent title challenge” evaporated. We changed a more flexible, aggressive, hard working (altho inconsistent output) frontline that had been key to winning the CL to playing with a more fixed, passive way because Rom is different from Havertz.

What Tuchel said happened well after Lukaku’s interview so the damage was already done. So again, to blame Tuchel for a quip which happened when the relationship was already hugely strained from Lukaku’s own actions again is just stupidity. I mean you would be on edge and prickly with somebody, who had made it incredibly clear to Inter 6 or 7 months before that he wanted to move here, done an interview unannounced, wishing he didn’t leave Inter because the manager didn’t want to completely reshape his team for a more limited, one dimensional footballer.

Everything that has transpired for his second spell here is from self sabotage. Same with this summer. Ok maybe he phoned an Anderlecht player or whatever but fucking hell, the way he was here 2nd time round, that doesn’t have any correlation to what he did with that interview.

Saying otherwise is just incredibly naive and looking the other way.

I tend to agree with you to a certain extent. He was indeed very disrespectful super true my God even I can't or won't defend him for that.

The club shares blame in this also because of the fact they know rom lukaku very well how he plays his strength his weaknesses

My thing is this why buy a player for a second  time for that huge amount of money ? and dont believe in him.

When antonio conte first arrived he , made adjustment's tailored with tactics. With Tuchel It was the other way around. He had a system it was either you adapt or take the highway 

And it had negative impact we saw the second sesson on the attacking players in the end they struggled mighty pulisic,werner, odoi

Its maybe possible that he rom lukaku felt jerked around the second time because the fact of the matter is he was a proven goalscorer both in serie A, premier league and the national team by now  it felt like deja vu all over again for him.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Amad_diallo said:

I tend to agree with you to a certain extent. He was indeed very disrespectful super true my God even I can't or won't defend him for that.

The club shares blame in this also because of the fact they know rom lukaku very well how he plays his strength his weaknesses

My thing is this why buy a player for a second  time for that huge amount of money ? and dont believe in him.

When antonio conte first arrived he , made adjustment's tailored with tactics. With Tuchel It was the other way around. He had a system it was either you adapt or take the highway 

And it had negative impact we saw the second sesson on the attacking players in the end they struggled mighty pulisic,werner, odoi

Its maybe possible that he rom lukaku felt jerked around the second time because the fact of the matter is he was a proven goalscorer both in serie A, premier league and the national team by now  it felt like deja vu all over again for him.

 

 

Disagree re Tuchel’s tactics. His tactics brought huge turn arounds in say 75% of the players who played regularly. A lot of the attackers we had with him have all been moved on, so says it all.

Lukaku is a one dimensional footballer thats why it didn’t work. You don’t completely restructure a CL winning team to suit a one dimensional footballer. Same with him at United and again there at Inter under Inzaghi, who preferred Dzeko in all the big games. 

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So much for £10m then 😂

But if hes out the door, ok but 90% likelihood thst we will be in the same situation again next summer. Roma won’t  buy him - theres no option\obligation to buy in the deal - and they won’t be able to afford him in all likeliness so don’t get your hopes up for any £30-35m deal.

Will be extremely cut price or the circus around his future again. 

100% Inter & Juventus wont be interested next year too.

 

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On 28/08/2023 at 10:06, OneMoSalah said:

Disagree re Tuchel’s tactics. His tactics brought huge turn arounds in say 75% of the players who played regularly. A lot of the attackers we had with him have all been moved on, so says it all.

Lukaku is a one dimensional footballer thats why it didn’t work. You don’t completely restructure a CL winning team to suit a one dimensional footballer. Same with him at United and again there at Inter under Inzaghi, who preferred Dzeko in all the big games. 

Sorry for being  late to reply but I've been busy my apologies.

You' re right about,  his tactics. They indeed was the main factor.

But the issue with tuchel it was never about the tactics More so of his persona.

His handling of players sometimes really felt sorry for werner and pulisic.

Under a different manager they could certainly have thrived I believe.

Lukaku " one dimensional" I think youre spot on. Thats my point Tuchel should of steered cleared and said no. Because tuchel dont now how to get the best out of rom lukaku, only antonio conte, martinez does. You have to use him in a certain way.

 

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