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Scoring goals in one season does not prove you are a capable #1 striker. He is a very good goal finisher, but to be a striker for a top team like Chelsea, Lukaku has to be able to do more. Demba Ba scored 15 goals last year and 16 goals the year before and he's not good enough to start for Chelsea. (And you need to stop bringing up the hattrick against ManU as a way of proving his quality. It was the last day of the season and neither team had anything to play for and ManU had a pathetic back 4. No, Rafel, no Vidic, no Ferdinand, and no Evra. You can't take that as a way of him performing against top teams.) The bottom line is that our manager doesn't think he's ready!!!

and how does he prove he is good enough to be a chelsea striker when inspite of scoring 17 goals, inspite of being our best striker in pre-season by a mile, he cant get a start. i dont give a shit what back 4 united played. united played a dead rubber against us too, but we barely won the match. we barely scrapped thru. why could not our striker score a hat-trick in a match that meant nothing to united but was one of our most important matches in the season.

also, i seriously dont think it has anything to do with jose. we wanted 3mil for ba loan, would probably have been getting more than that for lukaku (everton offered 4, i think) and we let him go.

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wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better :rolleyes: not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

As good a coach he is, Mourinho is not know for working with young players. Wherever he starts, he demands a couple of big signings and plays practically with experienced players only. It was only his comments before the start of the season that made me think this time it would be different...

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wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better :rolleyes: not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

u actually think this is mou's doing? i can bet everythin i have that this is the board's decision. 3mil for BA loan was what we were asking, everton had offered 4mil for lukaku and we let him go for that.

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wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better :rolleyes: not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

Of course you know, Ow superior one :-)

Btw: is he loaned now or not? Or is the man management of Mourinho actually pointing in the direction of Lukaku staying? I wonder. Knowing that would make you one of those TC specialists, right?

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As good a coach he is, Mourinho is not know for working with young players. Wherever he starts, he demands a couple of big signings and plays practically with experienced players only. It was only his comments before the start of the season that made me think this time it would be different...

that's not even my point actually. The man can make mistake like any other. It's the presumption that we know better that annoys me.

I think when he sees potential - real potential - and readiness to act on that potential he works just fine.

Name me 5 players that were young under him, that he handled badly and that nowadays are world class or just very good because for him to be bad as many people say youngsters should flourish under others immediately after they left him.

In case you can't name those 5, I can name you a few players that people were on him for not dealing well, that were good, talented and whatever, and he let them go and nothing happened with them. And that's at RM only, but I could force my memory to go way back to Inter too.

No one says he's right in those case, do they? Still time proved that the players weren't everything people expected them to be. The one reason that makes Mourinho sign so many guys is because of his clinical eye for real talent, not could be. Why do you think he made Eden his untouchable man even before they had one training session?

All that said, it doesn't mean he doesn't think Lukaku is the real deal, it just means he's not ready for what Mourinho needs now. I kept saying that before the Super Cup - that he wasn't ready to handle pressure. Well, we saw how well that worked...

I could name a few he handled okay and are now very good.

u actually think this is mou's doing? i can bet everythin i have that this is the board's decision. 3mil for BA loan was what we were asking, everton had offered 4mil for lukaku and we let him go for that.

you do have a valid point. One that had crossed my mind today many times amidst the many rumors. But I was aiming on people who think they know better than one of the most successful managers in the world.

I think he's just betting ON Lukaku rather than against him. How would the boy feel - in the WC year - to be benched 90% of the matches, actually not even making the bench in many of them? I guess that frustration would be bigger than the frustration of Chelsea letting go of him for the second year in a row.

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wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better :rolleyes: not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

No one is saying we know better than fucking Jose.

Some of us are pissed off because the kid was deceived. No one should promise to play you & then tell you I changed my mind.

If those reports were true, then Jose has no played fair with him.

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No one is saying we know better than fucking Jose.

Some of us are pissed off because the kid was deceived. No one should promise to play you & then tell you I changed my mind.

If those reports were true, then Jose has no played fair with him.

This is exactly what I meant.

We are all one! Guess what Lukaku will say next year when he hears that line again.

Thanks Bushman.

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He still will score more goals than our strikers I am sure ;) do your thing. Funny thing is he has competition at Everton as well who only play with 1 striker. Hope he has another brilliant season and tries to earn his place in the Belgian team, no matter how hard it will be. Shame our next game is them as he will be ineligible but sure he will be a big player for them this season.

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Name me 5 players that were young under him, that he handled badly and that nowadays are world class or just very good because for him to be bad as many people say youngsters should flourish under others immediately after they left him.

Well, you could spin that around and say they wasted so much valuable development time in those crucial years by not playing, they never reached their true potential. ;-)

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