Mundaka 243 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Gundogon,pisczek,bender,lewandowski,hummels,schmelzer,sahin were all unknown and have developed and progressed under klopp and you can even make a case of players like subotic,reus,kuba because when they joined they were relatively small name's and not as good as they are today.hummels is already playing his matches for 4 years but yeh... heck even tottenham is a good examplewith sighurdson, vertonghen, dembele (who instantly replace modric),... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 hummels is already playing his matches for 4 years but yeh... heck even tottenham is a good examplewith sighurdson, vertonghen, dembele (who instantly replace modric),...I would not really consider Dembele and Vertoghen "young." Also, I thought you guys meant produce..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I would not really consider Dembele and Vertoghen "young." Also, I thought you guys meant produce.....Of course they didn't. Did we "produce" Hazard, Mata or Oscar? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Warm evening in Madrid. Chelsea plays round of 16 with Real. Lukaku starts as centre forward. Most important game of the year for Cfc. Is he ready to handle the pressure? NO. He is not. Chelsea loses in the end, going out of competition. Decent striker's performance, but unexperienced side could not cope with Ronaldo & co.But...he would gain important experience and in few years grow into a brillant forward.---One million question: Is Roman ready to wait and trust Lukaku despite no international trophies for few years?Are YOU ready to wait and trust our youth? This is the ultimate question if we want this NEW plan with youngsters and attractive football to realy work. Should ask Roman himself, but I lost his phone number, so... Stingray, Peace. and Korea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Warm evening in Madrid. Chelsea plays round of 16 with Real. Lukaku starts as centre forward. Most important game of the year for Cfc. Is he ready to handle the pressure?NO. He is not.Chelsea loses in the end, going out of competition. Decent striker's performance, but unexperienced side could not cope with Ronaldo & co.But...he would gain important experience and in few years grow into a brillant forward.---One million question:Is Roman ready to wait and trust Lukaku despite no international trophies for few years?Are YOU ready to wait and trust our youth?This is the ultimate question if we want this NEW plan with youngsters and attractive football to realy work. Should ask Roman himself, but I lost his phone number, so...YES. because in a span of 3-4 years we will have the most potent attack in world football. Hazard, mata, oscar, de bruyne, lukaku,moses. but the most important thing is these are players who thrive on link up play, be it between our midfield trio or between the mid and the striker. u cant expect lukaku to have 3 loan spells while scoring 15-20 goals for other epl teams but then coming to chelsea who play a completely different style of football and expect him to adapt within no time. these set of players need the time together and if they get that, i have no doubts that we ll end up being world beaters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 YES. because in a span of 3-4 years we will have the most potent attack in world football. Hazard, mata, oscar, de bruyne, lukaku,moses. but the most important thing is these are players who thrive on link up play, be it between our midfield trio or between the mid and the striker. u cant expect lukaku to have 3 loan spells while scoring 15-20 goals for other epl teams but then coming to chelsea who play a completely different style of football and expect him to adapt within no time. these set of players need the time together and if they get that, i have no doubts that we ll end up being world beaters...Or we could end up like Arsenal and have our top players leaving every year cause we are not winning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 YES. because in a span of 3-4 years we will have the most potent attack in world football. Hazard, mata, oscar, de bruyne, lukaku,moses. but the most important thing is these are players who thrive on link up play, be it between our midfield trio or between the mid and the striker. u cant expect lukaku to have 3 loan spells while scoring 15-20 goals for other epl teams but then coming to chelsea who play a completely different style of football and expect him to adapt within no time. these set of players need the time together and if they get that, i have no doubts that we ll end up being world beaters...Dont get my post wrong, my answer would be Yes too Could end up like arsenal, but hell since when Chelsea sells top players? As long as we actualy work on project, players will understand. Arsenal however has no project. They create and sell. We wil create and keep and win. Enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Or we could end up like Arsenal and have our top players leaving every year cause we are not winning!wrong. arsenal sell players because their board is trying to make it a financial institution. our board (or we can easily say, our ROMAN) will never let any thing of this sort happen ever. the priorities of the board is the main difference here, and there is no way in hell that i can see us going the arsenal way.plus since when did arsenal have the likes of mata, hazard, oscar, lukaku, moses, kdb, thibaut. all they ever had was fibreglass, a wonder boy in arshavin, and one good season of nasri and persie. we are way better off than arsenal in the talent of our squad.. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Dont get my post wrong, my answer would be Yes too Could end up like arsenal, but hell since when Chelsea sells top players? As long as we actualy work on project, players will understand. Arsenal however has no project. They create and sell. We wil create and keep and win. Enough said.EXACTLY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 wrong. arsenal sell players because their board is trying to make it a financial institution. our board (or we can easily say, our ROMAN) will never let any thing of this sort happen ever. the priorities of the board is the main difference here, and there is no way in hell that i can see us going the arsenal way.plus since when did arsenal have the likes of mata, hazard, oscar, lukaku, moses, kdb, thibaut. all they ever had was fibreglass, a wonder boy in arshavin, and one good season of nasri and persie. we are way better off than arsenal in the talent of our squad..Arsenal is probably worse case scenario. However, with FFP, we won't have the upper hand when it comes to throwing millions of euros like its pocket change anymore... So, you won't really know what Roman plan is for the future...Also, your comment concerning Arsenal departures...LOL. Arsenal probably has the best talent out of any team (EPL) in the past decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Arsenal is probably worse case scenario. However, with FFP, we won't have the upper hand when it comes to throwing millions of euros like its pocket change anymore... So, you won't really know what Roman plan is for the future...Also, your comment concerning Arsenal departures...LOL. Arsenal probably has the best talent out of any team (EPL) in the past decade. past decade but never at the same exact time as ours, cazorla and podolski dint play when rvp was their. heck even rvp was barely playing (because of injury) when fibreglass was at his peak. arsenal has a come and go policy but at no point did their squad have so much talent as ours does right now. we without a doubt have the hottest properties in world football. iplus y would we need to throw in more millions? we might need to for a player or 2 but which team does not. FFP does not mean end of transfer, it just means we woould now think twice before making a 50 mil pound mistake again which is quite good for us.also u still doubt what roman's plans for the future is when he just splashed 80 mil in the transfer market to get hazard, oscar, azpi, moses,marin,kdb, ba. thats a little harsh on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic weeds 446 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Jose will guide this lad to greatness. Just ask KING DROGBA. didierforever and Rambo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Lukaku chance conversion 23%, RVP conversion 22%, Torres conversion 16%, Ba at CFC conversion just 10% in EPL The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Lukaku chance conversion 23%, RVP conversion 22%, Torres conversion 16%, Ba at CFC conversion just 10% in EPLHOLY CRAP... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:why always us??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Lukaku chance conversion 23%, RVP conversion 22%, Torres conversion 16%, Ba at CFC conversion just 10% in EPLWhat's BA.conversion at Newcastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Hutcho 8,443 Posted March 19, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted March 19, 2013 Arsenal is probably worse case scenario. However, with FFP, we won't have the upper hand when it comes to throwing millions of euros like its pocket change anymore... So, you won't really know what Roman plan is for the future...Also, your comment concerning Arsenal departures...LOL. Arsenal probably has the best talent out of any team (EPL) in the past decade. Huh? Best talent in the last decade?Also with FFP. We are In a great situation. We have a great young squad already. That gives us 3 things:1. Quality players2. Players who can be here a long time. 3. Resale value Mata is already considered the leader of our attack and the "wise head" and he is only 24... Hazard is showing signs of greatness and he is only 22. Lukaku 19. Oscar 21. KDB 21. Chalobah 18. Azpi 23. Courtois 20. That's 8 of some of the highest rated young talent under 24... All of whom could potentially play on the same team, and could be here for a long time. Because of that we don't need to break the bank every single transfer window. Stingray, didierforever, The only place to be and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Huh? Best talent in the last decade?Also with FFP. We are In a great situation. We have a great young squad already. That gives us 3 things:1. Quality players2. Players who can be here a long time. 3. Resale value Mata is already considered the leader of our attack and the "wise head" and he is only 24... Hazard is showing signs of greatness and he is only 22. Lukaku 19. Oscar 21. KDB 21. Chalobah 18. Azpi 23. Courtois 20. That's 8 of some of the highest rated young talent under 24... All of whom could potentially play on the same team, and could be here for a long time. Because of that we don't need to break the bank every single transfer window.Hopefully, but a big reason why players go to Chelsea is due to high wages. Also, ideally, it be great if Roman didn't go crazy in the transfer market, but everyone knows other teams sell their.players high when it comes to dealing with Chelsea.i agree with that wewe have a good young setup going on, however, how many will succeed at Chelsea realistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemishblue 61 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 If Lukaku had played against West Ham instead of Ba, he had scored 2 goals minimum.. He is a true blue and he's ready .. give the fridge a chance ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different level 1,056 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yup, Lukaku has definitely done more than enough to earn his chance in the squad next season especially with the goalscoring rate of our strikers. His age should not be a problem as the really talented young players like Romelu don't need that many chances to show their ability. That was the case this year with him in West Brom as he became the live wire of their attack and the center of almost anything dangerous they do in front of goal. Yes, there is a lot of pressure when you play in a top team and there is even extra pressure when you are a Chelsea striker, but I think he'll deal with that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Can anyone actually give me a qualifiable argument on why Lukaku won't be able to handle the pressure because of his age? Age does NOT define maturity in football. You can't write Lukaku off based on conditional, superficial statements that haven't even happened before. Miguelito and Mundaka 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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