nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 He will be sold this summer I think.He will never have the level of our club.What's the level of our club? Does Eto'o, Torres and Ba have that level? Hamilton, Barbara and The only place to be 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 He will be sold this summer I think.He will never have the level of our club.He will never have the flair or technicallity people love to see from a striker, but efficiency wise he will be the level of our club. Total battering ram that scores goals. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 he is still having the same flaws. awful first touch, seems to lack stamina and sometimes his movement on the pitch is kinda awkard (too often going out wide). really needs to work on this, but it seems like he cant improve this things. nowhere near to lead our line next year, but could do well as a 2nd striker. Mouri_Matic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 he is still having the same flaws. awful first touch, seems to lack stamina and sometimes his movement on the pitch is kinda awkard (too often going out wide). really needs to work on this, but it seems like he cant improve this things. nowhere near to lead our line next year, but could do well as a 2nd striker.He doesn't have an awful first touch, he has an inconsistent first touch. People writing him off are being extremely premature and overlook the most important thing - he scores goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 he is still having the same flaws. awful first touch, seems to lack stamina and sometimes his movement on the pitch is kinda awkard (too often going out wide). really needs to work on this, but it seems like he cant improve this things. nowhere near to lead our line next year, but could do well as a 2nd striker.He lacks stamina ? When was the last time you saw him playing ?Toliboo, an after new years headache ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Some Everton fans are calling for him to be dropped. Apparently he's still having the same problems he's always had. Poor stamina, terrible first touch and mediocre link/build up play. http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/60031-Lukaku/page85 Toffeetalk sounds different tbh: Lukaku is a world class finisher, given the chance, 9/10 he will score. He hasnt had the service of late, simple as that. What chances in the last few games has he had? only one i can remember is the one last minute against Arsenal. Or He's not had the service. Mirallas was Woeful yesterday and should have put him through a few times. Likewise, Barkley hasnt been as creative as he could have been. I dont think he had that good of a game yesterday (Barkley), obviously great goal but he didnt really create that much. Using the Newcastle game as an example, both Mirallas and Barkley got an assist to Lukaku in that game and I cant remember the last time Rom had chances like that since then. Its not like he's missing sitters every week. He does get in the positions but his service has been really poor. Or The last few games he has looked very poor, but you simply cannot take him of as you know how explosive he can be. So context matter with the Everton comments. I believe they acknowledge he is having a stroke of bad form for about 3-4 games. But that doesn't say his weaknesses are there when he is on form, quite the contrary. He is - inconsistent, but what do you expect from a 20 year old. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 he is still having the same flaws. awful first touch, seems to lack stamina and sometimes his movement on the pitch is kinda awkard (too often going out wide). really needs to work on this, but it seems like he cant improve this things. nowhere near to lead our line next year, but could do well as a 2nd striker.And still he scored nine goals in 16 matches for Everton. Making top 5 in the PL top scorer list (after missing the first four or so matches and not being able to play against Chelsea). Stingray, The only place to be and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Not hard working enough for a team like Chelsea imo, never see him actually try to tackle and win the ball back, most of the time he just stood there watching and waiting for others to feed him the ball. At this rate he could still make it here but more like a sub rather than a starting striker, something he won't accept imo. But of course he is still young and could improve a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Stats 7,142 Posted January 3, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 3, 2014 Not hard working enough for a team like Chelsea imo, never see him actually try to tackle and win the ball back, most of the time he just stood there watching and waiting for others to feed him the ball. At this rate he could still make it here but more like a sub rather than a starting striker, something he won't accept imo. But of course he is still young and could improve a lot more.He always works his socks off. When Everton beat United at OT he worked his socks off running back and forward while ripping Vidic and his other partner to shreds. Another conclusion you seem to keep jumping to. Same way you said this stuff about Aguero scoring more than him at his age... bla bla bla... you were tested on it and you could not reply because you know your statement was pure rubbish. Most importantly he gets goals and you said "he could improve". Of course he is going to improve. He is 20 and one of the highest scorers in the prem despite missing a few games for Everton at the start.And oh yeah, while it is good for strikers to work hard, I would much rather have a striker known for scoring goals! The only place to be, Stingray, Eden2020 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Pipo Inzaghi never ran more than 2 seconds at a time in his entire life. Now look at his stats. Still, Lukaku is not a lazy striker. Don't know where you get that idea. He's always a burden on defense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 He always works his socks off. When Everton beat United at OT he worked his socks off running back and forward while ripping Vidic and his other partner to shreds. Another conclusion you seem to keep jumping to. Same way you said this stuff about Aguero scoring more than him at his age... bla bla bla... you were tested on it and you could not reply because you know your statement was pure rubbish. Most importantly he gets goals and you said "he could improve". Of course he is going to improve. He is 20 and one of the highest scorers in the prem despite missing a few games for Everton at the start.And oh yeah, while it is good for strikers to work hard, I would much rather have a striker known for scoring goals!The Chelsea system is different.The CF needs to work hard for the team, not so much the team has to work hard for their CF...Lukaku still doesnt know how to conserve his energy for 90mins and his touch is suspect, but as I mentioned last season, I would be shocked if Mourinho made him the nr1 option as CF. For now, hes best bet is a supersub using his physical attributes when the opposition is fatigue and getting goals for Chelsea... I still dont think he would of been a better option than what we have now, but he definitely would of scored more goals than our current strikers..... On a side note, I dont expect his technique to ever improve. Pipo Inzaghi never ran more than 2 seconds at a time in his entire life. Now look at his stats. Still, Lukaku is not a lazy striker. Don't know where you get that idea. He's always a burden on defense...Not lazy, but not as active..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I wonder if you guys actually watch his matches... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I still dont think he would of been a better option than what we have now, but he definitely would of scored more goals than our current strikers..... Seriously, what is this? Isn't that the whole point of being a striker? Christacinto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The Chelsea system is different.The CF needs to work hard for the team, not so much the team has to work hard for their CF...Lukaku still doesnt know how to conserve his energy for 90mins and his touch is suspect, but as I mentioned last season, I would be shocked if Mourinho made him the nr1 option as CF. For now, hes best bet is a supersub using his physical attributes when the opposition is fatigue and getting goals for Chelsea... I still dont think he would of been a better option than what we have now, but he definitely would of scored more goals than our current strikers..... On a side note, I dont expect his technique to ever improve. Not lazy, but not as active..... Like I said, he is not lazy. Far from it and all his hard work for Everton is why he needs a rest at some point. He is no way a poacher who simply stays in the box. He works hard and with Martinez playing style, he has everyone pressing which includes the striker working back.Also I hope for that point you have never ever suggested us getting Falcao then. If he was here and scoring more than our strikers we would be top. That is the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The Chelsea system is different.The CF needs to work hard for the team, not so much the team has to work hard for their CF...Lukaku still doesnt know how to conserve his energy for 90mins and his touch is suspect, but as I mentioned last season, I would be shocked if Mourinho made him the nr1 option as CF. For now, hes best bet is a supersub using his physical attributes when the opposition is fatigue and getting goals for Chelsea... I still dont think he would of been a better option than what we have now, but he definitely would of scored more goals than our current strikers..... On a side note, I dont expect his technique to ever improve. Not lazy, but not as active..... I agree with you on his technique.He's too flat footed wich is why he's so rubbish when he has to do turns and takes too much time to gain speed from still position.I think he should do a 2-3 months stages with rugby coaches and athletic coaches to use his feet better and have better agility. Korea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Seriously, what is this? Isn't that the whole point of being a striker?Not for Chelsea...The amount of work the CFs have to put it really puts a toll on their stats.... How many times did Drogba scored +20 in the PL? Once Anelka? Zero The glory role is the AM for Chelsea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I think he should do a 2-3 months stages with rugby coaches OK, now I know you're kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 OK, now I know you're kidding. No I'm serious. To work on his legs, feet to have better first steps.You know who has great first steps, Eden Hazard wich helps to make turns, stop and go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 No I'm serious. To work on his legs, feet to have better first steps.You know who has great first steps, Eden Hazard wich helps to make turns, stop and go.I just don't know why you'd suggest working with rugby coaches. The guy is still young and has a fairly remarkable physique that he is still growing into. Playing almost every game when he isn't used to it will also have an effect, so I don't see the need for such pessimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I just don't know why you'd suggest working with rugby coaches. The guy is still young and has a fairly remarkable physique that he is still growing into. Playing almost every game when he isn't used to it will also have an effect, so I don't see the need for such pessimism.Maybe not "rugby coaches" but to take an off-season training drills that Rugby players take to have better change of direction, agility is not ridiculous.The Ajax youth works with athletic coaches to have a good running technique, not heavy feet like Lukaku has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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