semiller1313 23 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Torres is bound to still be here next season so we'll have Lukaku, Torres and Ba. If we break the bank for a genius striker like Falcao and get rid of Torres then great but I do believe Lukaku is ready. He's scored at a good rate in the premier league including a goal at Anfield. If he can score in the prem for WBA, why not for us? Makes no sense. He's not the finished article but he's a beast and will be for us. We spent a lot on this kid, he will make it. Gosh, I hope you're wrong about Torres staying. I hopeful that the board/Roman finally give up hope on him. It will be difficult to get rid of him, but I think we might be able to loan him, paying a good portion of his salary.I don't see Falcao coming, he is 27 and will cost a ton with his transfer fee and wages...not a good bargain. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Le Fondre can't play the role of lone striker...he needs to play in a 2-striker system.Maybe someone like Aroune Kone if Wigan get relegated?Kone is very inconsistent with his finishing imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 All bench warmer like signings are inconsistent with their finishing i guess, hence why they are just squad players. I like Cameron Jerome, he's strong, quick and scores from range and with his head. Stoke don't use him enough imo i've always personally rated him. So if we look for cheap, squad like signings, he works. I don't think we're looking for this type of player though. Man Utd and Man City have 4 very good strikers (when City had the nutter). We need at least 3 very good strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't get the idea of stacking up mediocre players. Torres is mediocre to say the least, Ba is good but not a beast, Lukaku isn't the finished product yet. If we had a brave board, we would offload Torres no matter what, Buy Cavani and bring Lukaku back to sub. Ba was never more then a temp imo. We would be set for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 All bench warmer like signings are inconsistent with their finishing i guess, hence why they are just squad players. I like Cameron Jerome, he's strong, quick and scores from range and with his head. Stoke don't use him enough imo i've always personally rated him. So if we look for cheap, squad like signings, he works. I don't think we're looking for this type of player though. Man Utd and Man City have 4 very good strikers (when City had the nutter). We need at least 3 very good strikers. Again. ManU and City play with 2 or 3 strikers in their starting XI. We play with 1. 4 strikers for 2 spots is fine. 3 strikers for 1 spot means the #3 striker will basically never play. The Mak, The only place to be, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 16, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't know why we haven't looked at Moses as a third striker. If we bring back De Bruyne and Piazon then that's more players for the wing, so why not just look at him for that position?I don't get the idea of stacking up mediocre players. Torres is mediocre to say the least, Ba is good but not a beast, Lukaku isn't the finished product yet. If we had a brave board, we would offload Torres no matter what, Buy Cavani and bring Lukaku back to sub. Ba was never more then a temp imo. We would be set for years to come. I don't know if our board are that brave, but I think they might be that stupid. We have holes around the pitch that need filling and buying a 26 year old striker, unproven in the EPL to play instead of one of the brightest striking talents in the British Isles would be about 10 steps back into 2010-2011territory. People can always say Lukaku isn't the finished product because footballers never stop developing. He could realistically score 20 goals at West Brom this year and people would still say he isn't ready because he hasn't been tested at Champions League level, and that's a fair comment. But at some point you have to take the plunge. The kid has wanted to play for this club all his life and he seems to be something of a perfectionist - I guarantee that there won't be a point in time in the next 10 years when he won't put pressure on himself in his Chelsea (second) debut. But you see some people in life who just have 'it'. They step up when they need to and he seems to be one of those guys.I love what he said about the Champions League trophy because it shows he's a real winner and real winners don't put any value on unearned success, whereas cunts like Bosingwa want to make sure everyone knows they had a part in winning a trophy. Put the ball in this guy's hands and I think he'll do us proud. Stats, The Mak, Rambo and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't get the idea of stacking up mediocre players. Torres is mediocre to say the least, Ba is good but not a beast, Lukaku isn't the finished product yet. If we had a brave board, we would offload Torres no matter what, Buy Cavani and bring Lukaku back to sub. Ba was never more then a temp imo. We would be set for years to come. I think the board may well look to offload Torres. The problem is there may be takers for him regardless of how bad his form has reduced but no one is going to pay over £100,000 a week for a now mediocre player. Torres for sure will not want to half his wages. He is on £185,000 or around there if I am right. No club are going to give him wages around there now unless they are mad. Torres may just be fine playing a rotational role if it means getting those crazy wages here again next season. Only Anzhi realistically IMO can match his wage demands and whether he fancies a move to Russia, I am not quite sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Valid point @The only place to be. If people are looking to Cameron Jerome, Arouna Kone and Le Fondre as our third striker we might as well play Moses there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't know why we haven't looked at Moses as a third striker. If we bring back De Bruyne and Piazon then that's more players for the wing, so why not just look at him for that position?I don't know if our board are that brave, but I think they might be that stupid. We have holes around the pitch that need filling and buying a 26 year old striker, unproven in the EPL to play instead of one of the brightest striking talents in the British Isles would be about 10 steps back into 2010-2011territory. People can always say Lukaku isn't the finished product because footballers never stop developing. He could realistically score 20 goals at West Brom this year and people would still say he isn't ready because he hasn't been tested at Champions League level, and that's a fair comment. But at some point you have to take the plunge. The kid has wanted to play for this club all his life and he seems to be something of a perfectionist - I guarantee that there won't be a point in time in the next 10 years when he won't put pressure on himself in his Chelsea (second) debut. But you see some people in life who just have 'it'. They step up when they need to and he seems to be one of those guys.I love what he said about the Champions League trophy because it shows he's a real winner and real winners don't put any value on unearned success, whereas cunts like Bosingwa want to make sure everyone knows they had a part in winning a trophy. Put the ball in this guy's hands and I think he'll do us proud.I agree. The third striker will probably never play anyway but I'd be completely fine with Moses as an emergency striker. Lukaku has certainly earned his chance at Chelsea. In an ideal world, I'd prefer to see him as our #2 striker, starting about 25 games and subbing into another 25 behind a world-class striker but we're sort of in between as I see Ba more as a #2 striker as well and Torres as #3. The Torres signing has been so awful, I think pretty easily the worst in history not just for the insane money he cost and his incompetence, but because of the seemingly endless negative domino effect it has had. The only downside of bringing Lukaku back to me is that we have to fix our system so that strikers can succeed. Lukaku or anyone would not score many goals on this Chelsea team because we don't create chances for strikers. A new manager should be able to install a system that benefits our strikers more though. The Mak and The only place to be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't know why we haven't looked at Moses as a third striker. If we bring back De Bruyne and Piazon then that's more players for the wing, so why not just look at him for that position?I don't know if our board are that brave, but I think they might be that stupid. We have holes around the pitch that need filling and buying a 26 year old striker, unproven in the EPL to play instead of one of the brightest striking talents in the British Isles would be about 10 steps back into 2010-2011territory. People can always say Lukaku isn't the finished product because footballers never stop developing. He could realistically score 20 goals at West Brom this year and people would still say he isn't ready because he hasn't been tested at Champions League level, and that's a fair comment. But at some point you have to take the plunge. The kid has wanted to play for this club all his life and he seems to be something of a perfectionist - I guarantee that there won't be a point in time in the next 10 years when he won't put pressure on himself in his Chelsea (second) debut. But you see some people in life who just have 'it'. They step up when they need to and he seems to be one of those guys.I love what he said about the Champions League trophy because it shows he's a real winner and real winners don't put any value on unearned success, whereas cunts like Bosingwa want to make sure everyone knows they had a part in winning a trophy. Put the ball in this guy's hands and I think he'll do us proud.Very valid point! Still, that is a LOT of weight on those young shoulders. Personally, I would try it with Lukaku, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 If we buy Cavani or Falcao we might as well sell Lukaku to WBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 If we buy Cavani or Falcao we might as well sell Lukaku to WBAI disagree. If we bought Cavani or Falcao, Lukaku would be a great #2 striker and a #2 striker can play a lot and get is crucial to a team winning. Even if the new striker were to start 40 games, that's still 20 starts and probably 30 sub appearances. It would mean we'd have to sell Ba and Torres though. Stingray and Peace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I disagree. If we bought Cavani or Falcao, Lukaku would be a great #2 striker and a #2 striker can play a lot and get is crucial to a team winning. Even if the new striker were to start 40 games, that's still 20 starts and probably 30 sub appearances. It would mean we'd have to sell Ba and Torres though. While that is true, I'm having a hard time imagining anyone wanting Torres atm. Peace. and TorontoChelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Stats 7,142 Posted March 16, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't want us to go splashing out on a striker. I like Falcao and Cavani, great strikers but Falcao will be around £45m plus which is too much for a striker IMO, especially as if we have seen with Torres. Cavani, I like him a bit more than Falcao but he has gone 8 games without a goal IIRC, might even be 9 or 10 but 8 games alone is quite a drought for a striker of his calibre. No striker we get is going to guarantee us excessive goals, all depends how they fit in the system. I would like Ba and Lukaku to have a full season here.Milan have had faith in El Shaarawy to lead their line and look how well Milan are doing now. They are not too far from 1st position, although Juve are likely to win the league but it shows if you are good enough, you're old enough. Everyone was saying when they sold Ibra if they did not sign a top striker they will struggle. El Shaarawy is like in top 3 category goalscorers in Serie A. There is no reason why Lukaku cannot do the same.Especially as Lukaku is more of a natural striker than El Shaarawy. Like 'The only place to be' said, you just have to sometimes step out and state the guy is ready and give him a chance. Rambo, The Skipper, Mundaka and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 El shaarawy is a very good example. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Cavani, I like him a bit more than Falcao but he has gone 8 games without a goal IIRC, might even be 9 or 10 but 8 games alone is quite a drought for a striker of his calibre. No striker we get is going to guarantee us excessive goals, all depends how they fit in the system. I would like Ba and Lukaku to have a full season here. There is no reason why Lukaku cannot do the same.Especially as Lukaku is more of a natural striker than El Shaarawy. Like 'The only place to be' said, you just have to sometimes step out and state the guy is ready and give him a chance.Aaaaaaah fuck it!!! Let's forget about those expensive strikers ..... Get Lukaku the fuck back here and make it work. Period. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 While that is true, I'm having a hard time imagining anyone wanting Torres atm. Malaga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 MalagaCan they even afford him? I thought Malaga had a lot of financial issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Can they even afford him? I thought Malaga had a lot of financial issues Precisely. Hate everything about them and hopefully they will be just as gullible in signing Torres Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keikoismad 162 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Anyways friends, let's enjoy Lukaku as he's starting against Stoke this afternoon, 3 pm English timeBang in a few others son! Mundaka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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