Have we underachieved in the Roman era?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

This topic is going nowhere, I'll lock it unless people stop insisting their own opinion is fact, because otherwise we might as well be arguing with a brick wall.

[zolayes 14,489]

when someone calls Zola and Ballack " under achievers " it warrants the thread being locked

[nadavTKL 1,787]

That would have been logical and reasonable if we hadn't won 2 EPL titles and became invincibles within the 1st 2 years , in 2005 we were already considered a big team and we already had the winning mentality.

We had a superb start , Unbelievable success story during those 1st 2 years but since then it looks like we are on the decline instead of improving.

Your argument would have made sense if in 2005 we weren't already a big team.

You still dont get it... in the first two season we had a superb start, but when people talk about experience and winners mentallity its also the abiliity to

continue the superb start. It wasnt easy for us. And after Mou left, we kind a got lost. This could happen to an inexperience club in that level.

It was hard for us to compete for everything again... but we did it. We had two seasons that we compete for everything as good as we can even if

it was quite a mess(3 managers in a year and a half).

[warnie_666 1,081]

ZOLA has underachieved ,,,,this must be the quote of century

You yourself said, he deserved a Title, which he never got. So What has he achieved? Please dont bring up Cup Winners Cup and FA Cup. Even, Pompey with their substandard players won the FA Cup. Its the Same with Ballack. There is a reason why he has been tagged the "nearly man". I am beginning to wonder if you even understand what underachievement means.

[zolayes 14,489]

You yourself said, he deserved a Title, which he never got. So What has he achieved? Please dont bring up Cup Winners Cup and FA Cup. Even, Pompey with their substandard players won the FA Cup. Its the Same with Ballack. There is a reason why he has been tagged the "nearly man". I am beginning to wonder if you even understand what underachievement means.

im watching the cricket so I can see them ....

[Laylabelle 9,356]

If winning 3 league titiles,2 Carling Cups,3 FA Cups and 2 Community Shields is underachieving oh dear...money doesnt mean you'll win a trophy.Money does not stop Managers being crap and not having a clue and players get injured.Had we won one or two trophy then yeh we would've under achieved but we havent.Soon as they step on the field money and price tag goes out the window.Being a pricey player and spending loads on a team doesnt stop them playing like crap on certain days

And certain players not winning tropies and all,its hard but its the way it goes for every club

[Styles 9,790]

This went well then.

I think the 5 undecided should be chalked up as a yes to the question.

[zolayes 14,489]

This went well then.

I think the 5 undecided should be chalked up as a yes to the question.

and all the other forum members who didnt vote agree with you ...great logic

[Styles 9,790]

and all the other forum members who didnt vote agree with you ...great logic

I didn't think of that but you're right! They're probably too afraid to vote as they don't want to seem anti-Chelsea to the die-hards

[zolayes 14,489]

I didn't think of that but you're right! They're probably too afraid to vote as they don't want to seem anti-Chelsea to the die-hards

have you ever considered we arent ALL glory hunters..LOVE your witty skulls so clever