Teams ahead of us

[Sheva. 5,373]

He should not have hesitated coming out for the first goal, both goals would have been avoided with VDS between the sticks.

His price tag, young age, not speaking english, no spanish players and the fact he is playing at Old Trafford and many keepers failed because of the pressure there means a dodgy start by him is alomost inevitable.

This. He was at fault for both goals tbh.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

He should not have hesitated coming out for the first goal, both goals would have been avoided with VDS between the sticks.

His price tag, young age, not speaking english, no spanish players and the fact he is playing at Old Trafford and many keepers failed because of the pressure there means a dodgy start by him is alomost inevitable.

This. He was at fault for both goals tbh.

That ball from Silva for the first goal was dropped in an area of uncertainty between defenders and keepers. It's not one you can really blame on him, and it's not an error of judgement Rio was more at fault for not jumping with Lescott.

He's a fantastic goal keeper, his distributions and reactions are sublime. I think he's going to be a top keeper for them this season, but I've been tracking him since he made his Athletico rise to fame 2 seasons ago.

[Tomo 21,751]

That ball from Silva for the first goal was dropped in an area of uncertainty between defenders and keepers. It's not one you can really blame on him, and it's not an error of judgement Rio was more at fault for not jumping with Lescott.

He's a fantastic goal keeper, his distributions and reactions are sublime. I think he's going to be a top keeper for them this season, but I've been tracking him since he made his Athletico rise to fame 2 seasons ago.

no doubt he is class but he still has to adapt to a new culture with the expectations of the price tag on his shoulders, last season United mainly one it due to VDS being sublime time after time, could De Gea be as good in his first season? im not so sure.

[francozola 2,040]

I completely agree with you! The way people are talking about us... it's as if the two Manchester clubs are miles ahead and they are not. Man City were horrible yesterday. Even when they were 2-0 up, both goals were against the run of play. Not to mention their defence is UTTER SHITE. Lescott, Richards & Kolarov... you gotta be kidding me. Kompany and De Jong saved their asses last season. If one or both of them gets crocked then what'll happen? All that money and he didn't buy a single world-class defender. He still has 3 weeks to sort that shit out. Balotelli is a nutcase, Dzeko so far hasn't blended in with the team at all. They've got Silva who is superb and Aguero is a great signing but I still don't think they're going to win the title. They'll probably be up there, but don't think they can go all the way

[nadavTKL 1,787]

We have a great defence and a great set of forwards. If we had a winger and a creative young midfielder, we'd have the best squad in europe let alone the premiership.

Thats what so annoying in this trasnfer window... we need just two good signings, winger+midfielder, and we are not weaker than any team in the world.

I dont know about THE best squad, because you have Barca and Real.

[5354 204]

No offence but this is a very optimistic thread.

You didn't analyse the Chelsea squad... which is many of them is REALLY REALLY ageing.

A.Cole, Malouda, Lampard, Anelka and Lampard are the obvious ones.

No players will improve year after year especially when they are already in their 30s

[francozola 2,040]

No offence but this is a very optimistic thread.

You didn't analyse the Chelsea squad... which is many of them is REALLY REALLY ageing.

A.Cole, Malouda, Lampard, Anelka and Lampard are the obvious ones.

No players will improve year after year especially when they are already in their 30s

Yes, I know what you mean... but we will definitely improve this season (cause next season a lot of them are going to leave and hence we will get replacements) if: 1) AVB can get Torres going again consistently, 2) We sign Modric and/or let McEachren play more instead of Lampard, 3) AVB gives Sturridge more chances and not just play Malouda and Anelka every single game despite the form like what Carlo was doing last season

And I think AVB has the ability to motivate the players in a way that Carlo never did.

I don't know... I'm just optimistic after seeing how AVB has been handling the football side of things since he took over

[5354 204]

Maybe... but I'm thinking how many replacements we will have... and how fast they will gel and blend together.

[Beast 85]

Let's see..

Man Utd

Man City

Barcelona

Madrid

Bayern Munich

AC Milan

are all better..

Do you actually think we're going to become the best team in the world with players like Anelka, Kalou, Malouda and Lampard still playing regularly for us? NO.

[eldo 868]

Let's see..

Man Utd

Man City

Barcelona

Madrid

Bayern Munich

AC Milan

are all better..

Do you actually think we're going to become the best team in the world with players like Anelka, Kalou, Malouda and Lampard still playing regularly for us? NO.

Milan and Bayern are definitely not better than Chelsea!

[Styles 9,790]

United are still the best team in England.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

City are a weaker side without Tevez. A Manchester City team with Carlos Tevez up front scares me, a Manchester City team with Sergio Aguero up front makes me think Ivanovic is going to have himself some fun.

It is most definitely between us and United. United have strengthened, though not to the extent some people think. They already had a fairly strong squad, though. Young will be found out to be an average player; Nani, Park and Antonio Valencia both offer much more than he does in my honest opinion, and Phil Jones will be no threat - he's another overrated English talent. If anything, United will be weakened by de Gea. The kid is a superb goalkeeper but he is error-prone and will have to learn the ways of the Premier League quickly. Put it this way - he is no Edwin van der Sar!

If anything, United and City have regressed by losing key and influential players (let us not forget that even though they were spent forces, Vieira for City and Scholes and Neville were natural winners, and brought maturity and experience to the table. They will be missed). We have arguably only improved by bringing in Lukaku and Oriol, and with us seemingly having a firing Torres, and a fit Benayoun and Bosingwa, it's as if we've made plenty of new signings anyway...

I'm more optimistic than most!

[Beast 85]

City are a weaker side without Tevez. A Manchester City team with Carlos Tevez up front scares me, a Manchester City team with Sergio Aguero up front makes me think Ivanovic is going to have himself some fun.

It is most definitely between us and United. United have strengthened, though not to the extent some people think. They already had a fairly strong squad, though. Young will be found out to be an average player; Nani, Park and Antonio Valencia both offer much more than he does in my honest opinion, and Phil Jones will be no threat - he's another overrated English talent. If anything, United will be weakened by de Gea. The kid is a superb goalkeeper but he is error-prone and will have to learn the ways of the Premier League quickly. Put it this way - he is no Edwin van der Sar!

If anything, United and City have regressed by losing key and influential players (let us not forget that even though they were spent forces, Vieira for City and Scholes and Neville were natural winners, and brought maturity and experience to the table. They will be missed). We have arguably only improved by bringing in Lukaku and Oriol, and with us seemingly having a firing Torres, and a fit Benayoun and Bosingwa, it's as if we've made plenty of new signings anyway...

I'm more optimistic than most!

Based on what?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Did you not see his performance against Rangers? After Sturridge he was by far our best player, he no longer looks like a rabbit caught in headlights, and he isn't afraid to shoot. He was playing well as a creator as well and set up Kalou on a number of occasions and linked up well with Lampard, the two seem to have an understanding now.

United are still the best team in England.

And unfortunately that is a very sad statement when you compare United to Real and Barcelona.

[koukous89 6]

City are a weaker side without Tevez. A Manchester City team with Carlos Tevez up front scares me, a Manchester City team with Sergio Aguero up front makes me think Ivanovic is going to have himself some fun.

It is most definitely between us and United. United have strengthened, though not to the extent some people think. They already had a fairly strong squad, though. Young will be found out to be an average player; Nani, Park and Antonio Valencia both offer much more than he does in my honest opinion, and Phil Jones will be no threat - he's another overrated English talent. If anything, United will be weakened by de Gea. The kid is a superb goalkeeper but he is error-prone and will have to learn the ways of the Premier League quickly. Put it this way - he is no Edwin van der Sar!

If anything, United and City have regressed by losing key and influential players (let us not forget that even though they were spent forces, Vieira for City and Scholes and Neville were natural winners, and brought maturity and experience to the table. They will be missed). We have arguably only improved by bringing in Lukaku and Oriol, and with us seemingly having a firing Torres, and a fit Benayoun and Bosingwa, it's as if we've made plenty of new signings anyway...

I'm more optimistic than most!

i totatly agree with u , it will be between us and united, but i'm more concerned about how we will play i hope good football