Clevemayer

I will say this again give him till he is 23 to 24 gosh... did any of you hear about zidane before he was 24? I remember that times when a player could play till 38 at the top level Matthäus for example... my fuck'n god... he has tremendous touch and an unbeliveable passing range... he has sublime technique... he has shown this for us on all levels... but... BUT he has to get some physical issues straight and to show his balls like he did against AEK and Newcastle for us under carlo... he owned the midfield at that time... and he can do it again... Chalobah will have some bad seasons between 20 and 22 I think, thats the normal issue... its not normal for a player to be worldclass by 20 or 19 years... that is one out of 10 000 players... unbeliveable... two seasons ago you where singing for him at pubs and now you would stab him in his back (literally spoken) becaus what... he is 20 and ist worldclass yet? what has happened to my beloved sport?...

If you try to have a go at me thats you're problem if you're serious I hope so, you have some valid points and a good analyzing mind it seems so get you're point through and leave it with that... it makes no sense to talk again and again about the same shit seriously... I did the same before but if you've explained you're point and the others don't listen, you can try it one time again and thats it...

you are all a fuck'n disgrace guys... really... wtf is wrong with you?... I think somebody should put you straight on youre way... some of you act like 4 year old kids... nobody said anything about mikels consistency and all you're points you just don't even back them up... read you're posts through and you will all see that you have one intersection and that is hate towards mikel.. some of you accuse him of haeving no tactical sense (wtf?) some say he has no technique at all, some say he can't tackle some say he can't run... so all off you still don't have an answer about this... if he is so bad so you little guy whom nobody listens to and nobody knows can see, why is he kept playing and playing... when maka was here, when ballack was here, when ess was here, when deco was ere (DLP-Role)... get real you little kids really, I kept back... said this Mikel has real consistency issues and I've said that a hundrets of times... but he can be world class on his day thats a fact and he has one bad game out of eight... and its unbeliveball that some here admit, that the even WAIT FOR A PLAYER OF US TO DO BAD JUST TO SLATE HIM?! WTF?!... get grown up... he played under mou, under king carlo under scolari, under RDM, under Hiddink in crucial games he was rotated with ess under Rafa under Boas (until his bust up with him)... but you're not short of praising a player who has one GOOD game out of eight?... many of you are the same whom start bashing Moses.. I mean WTF? are you serious hes 20 he cost 7 Million and he has done tremendeous he was even better then Hazard before he hit the ground running and is a tons of time better then oscar and I really like oscar and think he can get one of the worlds greats... get straight... leave this topic if you don't like him we've got it... I do like him and I write everey now and then... maybe this is the only place for some of you to define you... I expect much better of some of you... (leif e.g.) you don't rate him you don't like him he is shit he can't hit the ball he even isn't a Nigerean he has probably painted him black... I beleve he would screw all of you... even Henrique whom hated him (if I am right, our arguments are far in the past) admitted he gives the team stability and we play better WITH him... and how Blackstreet09 and Kojo are still on here is beyond me... they don't deliver any new things and they just try to have a bust up... its obvious... AGAIN I think mikel has consistency Issues he has two weakpoints added to that, ghe deadly through ball between the lines and his shooting... I would really love to have busquet in our squad for 2 month... so ppl would see what a cuntface he is... /rant over

yeah really poor game... romeu has to come back soon... and this after his disgracefull comments about EL... you have to be out to win EVERYTHING... you can't just pick up the best of the best...

not more to say about this...

Yeah but writeing 100 Pages of basically The same stuff does youre right hats off for you

at the end of the day he trains here now for 7 or more years, he plays regularly and he earns the money... so who cares... haters go on and hate... I'm sure he gives a fuck...

mata is magic

How great it would be to feel that us against THEM feeling under him again, boy oh boy nice memorys of giving a shit about what they say and fuck em all with us being us and doing it our way... Winning it

my god if he comes and takes finally modric to where he belongs out of this ugly white shirts (Madrid and Yids)... then he will finally be there... one of our missing pieces in that midfield... oh dear...

he has only to blame himself and his attitude... talentwise he is behind nobody his skill and his touches are defo out of this world... it is so sad... but maybe he can kickstart from there and get to the greatness he is giftet for...

brilliant performance nothing to moan about, maybe that bit lacking of support of the back four with the second men behind the striker gett'n a shot away on goal too easy but thats really moaning on a high standard today... great overall... brilliant for Lamps today but should have absolutly gotten that hat-trick for tamblings all time highscore...

I don't where it comes from the tension was lost, like I've said 3 or 4 years ago we've been the third loudest place in english football, and the two or three times I've been lucky enough to take part at the bridge have been brilliant, especially the shed end sitting so close to the opponents and that older guys from times before haveing a go at the opponents literally the whole game was wonderfull and the MHS was rocking the other time but this was against arsenal. So I don't know why but the fans have to get behind the team more this is as clear as daylight... I don't want to end like Bayern Munich... this is worse then church normally, you could see that at the UCL-Final...

This wasn't my description it was by BlueLyon I just quoted him. I thought the ability to keep the ball after you've retained it and not giving away fouls would be fundamental attributes to such a type of player demanded, if not, I can do the job too, just have to start running again to get my condition done, hacking and slaying with my knees and don't keep the ball after you've got him back is something I can do all day long...

Sorry can't agree, he gives away too much silly fouls, most of the time I don't understand how he survives on the pitch. plus he has not that good ball controll after regaining possession imho...

1) I couldn't watch, was it that bad? we should get an campain started for thie bridge in 2009 we where the third loudest place in england, louder then Old Trafford (it was scientifically proven, they did measure the loudness on the pitch during a game) and yeah I'm aware that we have only 42005 seats... 3) finally another one seeing it and I'm getting annoyed that no coach aside from Butch has ever advised him to do so (look at his shots against inter, Stoke arsenal etc. under Carlo) 5) he should get some propper advice never seen such a good defender with such a small sense for the tactical part of the game... it's a shame... 7) fully agree

are we talking about that Chelsea whom bought Sheva for 40Mio and sold him for what? 7?

cuntfaces at this redcafe...

his touch was out of this world for sure yesterday..

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/john-obi-mikel-its-time-to-stop-rafael-benitez-taunts-8529009.html

I really don't dislike Ramy, I even think hes better in the pivot then lamps with Mikel alongside him, but he has two things that he relies on, his Stamnia and his finishing. he has a poor first touch, poor passing, poor dribbling, really ok, I forgot about his work ethic, this is something Mikel could really do with... He is great in running and closeing players down because he puts them under pressure and is on you're neck if you get the ball. But seriously he is not the most technical gifted player I really love to see him run riot on the field and I don't think we should sell him no way... but there are defo better Mids that suit better to that pivot... nontheless a very good second half by him... since an awfull lot of time...

I only hold Mikel in regret for ONE thing and thats like others have said consistency... whom says he has never seen Mikel play such games must be here AFTER we've won the CL... he had many great games but more then one AVARAGE Game... I really like Mikel I do, because its wonderfull to see him play with his cool nonchallance way and his tremendous touch... he really is unbeliveabale for his sice... his shielding, his accurate passes, his interception are all top top class... and he has shown it against Barca, Inter, quite often against Arsenal and ManUre, against a physical side like Sunderland, there are so many games you can watch him just tick in that midfield... but I really expect ore of him... I don't want him to score to shoot to do the unbeliveable things and stuff but I just KNOW what he is capable of and its clearly to see this is not a one out of thousand games, I've seen better from hin then this 45 Min... it's just fun to reacit like other ppl. when he has had TWO errors all the season against Juve and City where he was REALLY to be held in regret for conceeding a goal, but nobody talks about the ctinioues failure of our attackers to move ain and around (despite Mata) and that errors of Cahill, Luiz, Chech, Lamps, FlOPPES and so on, they're all much worse and the worst thing out of all is that you whom just start telling others not to get carried away with ONE HALF of football probably rate Ramires in such a high regret who still dont has any ball stopping ability and any passing quality... I expect more from Mikel, IF the guys infront of him do well, I expect more CONSISTENCY from Mikel, not in putting very good solid performances but to put a WORLDCLASS performance in nearly every game... he is no tranquerista and he is no Makelele, he isn't as quick as Maka (there fore he is much bigger) and he lacks one thing for an tranqueristar thats the deadly low ball between the lines, any other passing he is second to none and I will stand with this thing I've said there... BUT... BUT peeps he has mor TEchnique then the great and beloved Maka, he is (yeah this so0unds unbeliveable) more composed, has more shielding quality and an wider range of passes and I really LOVE maka, I even try to immitate some of his moves but you have to give credit where it belongs... Mikel lacks consistency in putting in WORLDCLASS Performances not very good solid and great performances... he does this pretty consistently... so stopp moaning about him being a very god midfielder... I just hold my head when I read comments from many of you... some have valid points some just get on my nerves. Mikel needs a propper partner get KPB or Modric ASAP and put pressure on him with Romeu if he can't do so, get Capouet... he is top too...

you mean that period we lost most of our areal battles and seemed in need of a DM don't you? that awkward moment when you realize the person you're talking with has an biased an opinion and don't realises when he fails...

now after you're all a bit down with celebrating I will tell you one thing, I was looking at this fixture with very pessimistic feelings but I have to agree with @laylabelle and @MagicLamps. We have so much more Quality and so do City over ManU. I mean yeah they have a very good attacking force, over weight rooney whom has been out of form but seems to have found it again the last 5 Games and Robin vanPersie who seems invisible again after a great 1 and 1/2 seasons where he was unstoppable... but the rest despite from Kagawa and Cleverly plus De Gea are midtable quality really. I wanted Valencia before he went to yernited as an squadplayer because I think he is decent, Nani has failed all expectations and in any regret our team is better, even if you hear that names in they're attacking department, we are much much stronger... Our Midfield should dominate them easily (what they did in the second half), and thats whats so frustrating with our team, I know we're in transition but you can't do anythin but feel for most of the games, that the team doesn't give it they're all. ManUre is nothing this season but all they're counterparts are just worse, everything runs in they're favour, but we showed the quality in the second half we have and this wasn't because YERNITED did slow down, this was becaus CHELSEA lived up to they're potential... thats what I expect every at least 3rd game from them because of they're natural talent and quality, not everygame because they're not clicking right now this will take one further season maybe two, but the rest of the games I expect them to give they're all but they often dont do so and thats what annoys me the most... there is no reason to shit you're pants from any team qualitywise but mentally we're just not there right now...

LoL mate I might be One out of hundrets whom has supported Mikel from Day One I was mir than only sarcastic