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Goals and opportunities have dried up for him recently. Only thing we can hope for is another goalscoring burst, but I can't see where it's going to come from I'm afraid...

If that is what you truly believe, I think you should just stay away from forums then...and the internet in general.

Don't think he's really deflecting mate, he admitted he played absolutely shit. He's just pointing out others who also didn't offer much, which I agree with him on. Just because he likes Mikel, doesn't mean you have to jump down his neck ALL the time, even when he admits he was shit...

So, in the beginning we we're creative enough and now we're too creative...right, got'cha. Classic Liverpool mentality, always the victim, never his fault. Reminds me of a comment on one of the articles I read today on Rafa going back to Liverpool in the future: "I liked Rafa very much I think he lost his way when his assistant and friend moved on". Yeah, that, or he's just a cup manager. Or like when a Liverpool fan tried to tell me that Reina has been shit because "our goalkeeper coach left", yeah, pull the other one. In the context of the game, and being a Chelsea fan, it was the worst miss ever. Anytime you defend Torres, you remind me of this guy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc My point is, those teams are not supposed to be anywhere near our level and Torres has a habit of scoring against them, instead of the better teams. And yes, I count Newcastle as bad team because... (see below) 1. City was a friendly. So, no, it doesn't count for much I'm afraid. 2. Wrong on every level about Newcastle. They've been shit this season. They've also been shit this season with Ba. When Ba left, they were 15th or so. They've only managed to stay a float until January because of Ba. So by the time January came around, they were able to buy a bunch of Frenchies to save their season. They've done better since, but, technically, they can still get relegated.

I meant in the context of scoring against a top side, sorry if that wasn't clear. The majority of the teams you've listed, we should've won with or without Fernando Torres. If Sturridge played in those matches for example, I'd imagine we would've won most of them as well...do you want to know why I can make such an assumption? Because Mata has 18 goals, the same as Torres, and 30 assists - THIRTY - while Hazard has 12 goals and 17 assists (not including the penalties he's won); losing either one of those players would be much more detrimental to our side than losing Torres.

Don't hate the player, hate the facts bro. I actually felt a bit depressed after putting in those leagues and stuff....

Only important goals I can pick from this list is Arsenal...and he only scored because of Koscielny and one of his brain farts. The United goal was completely cancelled out by his miss of the millennia that followed and I don't count the Barca goal for much, since we had pretty much won already. £50m and 175k+ a week to score against pub teams (and mainly at home)? I would've rather let Sturridge do that to be honest. # Season Date Year Competition Opponent Score Result Venue 1 2010-11 23 April 2011 Premier League West Ham United 2-0 3-0 Stamford Bridge (Relegated)2 2011-12 18 September 2011 Premier League Manchester United 1-3 1-3 Old Trafford (Missed opener)3 2011-12 24 September 2011 Premier League Swansea City 1-0 4-1 Stamford Bridge (Sent Off)4 2011-12 19 October 2011 UEFA Champions League Genk 2-0 5-0 Stamford Bridge (Belgian L)5 2011-12 19 October 2011 UEFA Champions League Genk 3-0 5-0 Stamford Bridge (Belgian L)6 2011-12 18 March 2012 FA Cup Leicester City 3-0 5-2 Stamford Bridge (Championship)7 2011-12 18 March 2012 FA Cup Leicester City 4-1 5-2 Stamford Bridge (Championship)8 2011-12 31 March 2012 Premier League Aston Villa 4-2 4-2 Villa Park (Near Relegation)9 2011-12 24 April 2012 UEFA Champions League Barcelona 2-2 2-2 Nou Camp (One on one with Valdes+no defence)10 2011-12 29 April 2012 Premier League Queens Park Rangers 3-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)11 2011-12 29 April 2012 Premier League Queens Park Rangers 4-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)12 2011-12 29 April 2012 Premier League Queens Park Rangers 5-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)13 2012-13 12 August 2012 Community Shield Manchester City 1-0 2-3 Villa Park (Friendly)14 2012-13 22 August 2012 Premier League Reading 3-2 4-2 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)15 2012-13 25 August 2012 Premier League Newcastle United 2-0 2-0 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)16 2012-13 25 September 2012 League Cup Wolverhampton Wanderers 5-0 6-0 Stamford Bridge (Championship)17 2012-13 29 September 2012 Premier League Arsenal 1-0 2-1 Emirates Stadium18 2012-13 06 October 2012 Premier League Norwich City 1-1 4-1 Stamford Bridge (2nd half of table)19 2012-13 07 November 2012 UEFA Champions League Shakhtar Donetsk 1-0 3-2 Stamford Bridge (Keeper mistake)20 2012-13 05 December 2012 UEFA Champions League Nordsjælland 2-0 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Danish L)21 2012-13 05 December 2012 UEFA Champions League Nordsjælland 4-1 6-1 Stamford Bridge (Danish L)22 2012-13 08 December 2012 Premier League Sunderland 1-0 3-1 Stadium of Light (Near Relegation)23 2012-13 08 December 2012 Premier League Sunderland 2-0 3-1 Stadium of Light (Near Relegation)24 2012-13 13 December 2012 FIFA Club World Cup Monterrey 2-0 3-1 Yokohama (Mexican L)25 2012-13 19 December 2012 League Cup Leeds United 5-1 5-1 Elland Road (Championship)26 2012-13 23 December 2012 Premier League Aston Villa 1-0 8-0 Stamford Bridge (Near Relegation)27 2012-13 27 January 2013 FA Cup Brentford 2-2 2-2 Griffin Park (League 1)28 2012-13 27 February 2013 FA Cup Middlesbrough 1-0 2-0 Riverside Stadium (Championship)29 2012-13 14 March 2013 UEFA Europa League Steaua Bucharest 3-1 3-1 Stamford Bridge (Romanian L)30 2012-13 4 April 2013 UEFA Europa League Rubin Kazan 1-0 3-1 Stamford Bridge (Russian L)31 2012-13 4 April 2013 UEFA Europa League Rubin Kazan 3-1 3-1 Stamford Bridge (Russian L) Edit: I've now made annotations in brackets for each team/game. So according to this, Torres' level seems to be the Championship/Europa League...

Phil Jones' head looks like a big slab of ham.

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic mate!

Nooooooooooooo! This is exactly what he wants you to think! He got us to think this last season as well: "Things will be better for Fernando when he's the main man" etc. See my stripper metaphor above.

I just realised, he's like a stripper. I'm serious. Because just like a stripper, he recent performances are just a tease, nothing more. As if he's saying to Roman: "Hey big boy, this could all be yours. ", while giving him a glimpse of his thigh. But in reality we know he's finished, so neither we or Roman will get the full show or a happy ending... Whatever it is, he isn't even worth 20k a week!

Exactly. Every time he comes out with these interviews that "I'm going to do my best for the fans", "I know my stats at Chelsea aren't great, I want to improve next season" and all that crap, I just laugh. The man is on 175k a week and, not only has he been terrible, but it's his attitude that has been the ultimate spit in the face. As I said months ago, he is a cancer at this club. I just cannot wait until the man leaves. In fact...i'll go so far as to say I want him gone more than Benitez, there I said it!!

Good God I hope so mate. He did this last year too didn't he? Scoring hattricks against QPR and all that, getting our hopes up for next season. It's like he was playing just to stay. Well he's had his year now with 3 of the most creative players in the league behind him. Opposed to this recent media bulllshit, the fans have backed him all the way; even cheer for the bastard when he wins fucking throw-ins and corners. But when you show some of the abysmal attitude like he has for the majority of the season, it's time to move on. I can imagine him playing well for the first 3 games of next season, then something happens, like one morning he pours his cereal only to realise there's no milk, and BAM! Now he's Mr. Depression for 95% of the season again.

I just hope he's been playing like this because he wants a new club, not because he wants to stay...him staying here is the biggest nightmare of all.

Why thank you kind sir! I can hardly say I was inspired; I immediately thought of that video as soon as I had finished reading 'that'.

I don't know who would be benched out of those two to be honest. But either way, It beats the hell out of 4-2-3-1. Oscar could also serve as a CM and the DM can be converted to AM if we're going all out.

I'm with you mate, 4-3-3 all the way! Don't forget it would suit KDB too! Rami bombarding up and down the pitch, unrestricted, and KDB pinging balls out wide to Hazard/Mata...one can dream!

OFF TOPIC: Ballack He would've been great to have in the 10/11 season with Lampard's injury.

I can't really find the words to respond to this, so this will have to do....

Oscar is too damn lax in this half.

Changed your stance I see!

We might have our tactics right, but there's no drive, no want, no desire. Nothing. As I said months ago, Rafa couldn't inspire a team if his fucking life depended on it.

So as I was saying.... FOR FUCK SAKE!!! I KNEW IT!!! FUCKING NEW MANAGER BULSHIT!!

Calm?!?!? Don't you know what team we support?!?!?!? If we don't take advantage, once again, of others mistakes, I might have an aneurism!