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Is it? Spork Spiegel loves it, but I never played! Who sticks a knife into someone else´s butt?

We under AVB were as bad as Manure today, the difference is we sacked him and RDM ended up finishing the season the biggest possible fashion...

Too much DOTA and a knife in his arse!

I dont know what's more pathetic, the Galatasaray fans or the people insulting the whole Turkish country because of a few violent fans...

Or it could have a positive reaction as well. Maybe they decide to up their game to prove Mourinho he is wrong. It is really hard to predict what it is going to happen, but it doesnt necessarily mean it will reflect bad on the team.

I'm weirdly not interested in this match... We already won the UCL in 2012, so I have accomplished my unhealthy obsession with the UCL. More even because we won it in such a surreal fashion, I really dont perceive this year's competition as being utterly important or whatever! The only thing that will really keep me excited is to see Drogba's reception at Stamford Bridge, but besides that I dont really care. As long as Chelsea remain top of the Premier League everything its all fine. I want us to be the best in England and win the League, that is what I trully want!

Moyes: "We can definitely win the Champions League, but we cant win against poor Olympiakos"

Exacty, I only talk about the stuff I am certain of!Hence I dont ever post on some threads. For instance, I NEVER post on the threads of our youngsters and loanees, simply because I dont follow them regularly and would only post bullshit and wrong information. I'd only appreciate if people did the same and only posted in the topics they are familiar with! I can try to explain it one more time...You are trying to add stuff to Neymar's transfer fee that people DONT add when talking about other player's transfers. Signing bonuses, award bonuses, taxes, etc. In the usual reports you see anout transfer fees, the only thing its there is the money that went to the other club and to the players agent. Every player has other signing bonuses and taxes, the difference is that they usually remain unknown. Just because the Neymar case was made public (because Barcelona tried to avoid taxes), it doesnt mean players like Bale, Hazard, Cavani, Mata, etc, dont have similar extra fees in their contracts as well. If you add everything, of course Neymar will be the most expensive player ever; but that isnt how it is supposed to be done. You cant compare apples and oranges. You either add everything or you dont. It is wrong to compare Bale's 91mi to Neymar's 86.5 (plus taxes) because Real also had extra fees you arent taking into consideration! Also, about the 13mi in taxes...I completely agree about Barcelona being guilty, looking bad and being a shitty club. I was actually the first person in the forum to criticize Barça's attempt to breal the law. I really dont get why you are still quoting and trying to convince me into something I already agreed since the start.

Fuck, it appears your mate will have lots of difficulties when taking a dump for the next couple of weeks...

He is not afraid of Chelsea, but he is afraid from Hazard. Which means he is afraid from Chelsea!

You definitely dont understand what you are talking about!

Yeah, they are good sources of information. Which is why (if you actually read the article you linked) they say the transfer itself was of 57mi and other things suck signing bonus, salary and family expenses could add up to 86.2mi... And, once again, I dont even know why I'm debating this. You can very well just pick his contract online and use a google translator or whatever if you really want to know the details of his deal with Barcelona! About the Catalan club being guilty or not against Spanish Taxes Regulation Department, I cant see how you've come to the conclusion I disagree. I mean, it is right there at the post you quoted - I clearly explain that Barcelona decided to settle for 13mi because they were obviously afraid to lose more than that by going to court. In resume, a complete statement saying they were guilty, because if they werent they would have decided to defend an prove themselves in court!!! The sole reason I quoted you was to informe the 13mi in taxes cant go to someone's transfer fee report. Taxes are NEVER accountant in a company's financial report! Bye.

Not true at all... If this was how society worked, professionals like teachers/nurses/policemen would have the biggest salaries by far! What gives one money is how much revenue he can generate with his job. Which is something a lot of important professions just cant do. A pre-school teacher will never be able to find a job that pays more than 50k/year, no matter how good they are. However, a movie star will get 15mi for one movie because they can generate 500+ if it becomes a hit. So, that whole idea of yours (and that video) is easily proved wrong!!!

This idea is fundamentally wrong because people dont gain what they deserve, they gain in correlation with how much money they make to their bosses! Something quite well explained in Marx's theory...

Are you really basing your argument on a goal.com article? Every single serious paper reported the 86mi fee as an all together fee, not a specific transfer fee. And not only that, their contract was made public, there is not even the need to base our argumet on news stories. All one has to do is read the god damn thing... About Barcelona paying 13mi in taxes, it wasnt because they dont want investigations to go further (because it already did), it was for them to not go to court. It is called agreement, they probably felt they would lose more money in a legal process than to settle for a "lower" amount and Spanish Fiscal Department thought the trouble of an actual case (only to win a couple of more millions) was unecessary. Which just proves Barcelona is indeed guilty and they did tried to avoid Spanish's new HUGE tax laws. But that has ultimately nothing to with how much Neymar's transfer was! And for taking Barça's president word, I dont think anyone should. However, that particular quote was said in FIFA and under oath. I guess a little credibility is fair... EDIT: Nevertheless, I am really tired of proving to people Neymar didnt go for 86mi or anything crazy like that. Lets say you still believe he did go for that stupid amount...Where does the taxes come in your equation? Because no one counts it when talking about the fees and what not. For instance, everyone is going about him receiving 300k/week and not 180 something (which is what he will gain after taxes). Funny!

24 teams for the Euros is WAAAAY too much...

I dont think it would Kieran. I mean, Capitalism is not great, but like Toronto said it is the least bad of them all... Socialism will always eventually become a dictatorship. The transition is way too utopic. It is not even due to Capitalism intervining, it is more about our own human nature! Capitalism in a Wellfare State + Direct Democracy (like in Swizterland) is by far the best solution (imo).

No!Firstly because Neymar's transfer was not 86.5mi, it was 57.1mi (couting the 30 something that supposelly went to his father). Secondly because taxes dont count to someone's transfer fee. Do you count that PSG payed 63mi for Cavani or do you count that PSG payed 63mi + 40% French taxes? Did Chelsea pay 37mi for Hazard or 37mi + taxes? What about Bale? CR7? You can view Neymar's contract in both Brazilian and Spanish supreme court websites. The details are exactly 17.1mi to Santos, 10mi to DIS (third party owner) and 30mi for Neymar and his agents. The rest that "add up" to the 86mi MADRID media reported are from the two friendlies + bonuses for future awards + his 2013-2014 salary. I mean, WTF? Who adds bonuses (that he clearly wont receive btw) and salaries into a transfer fee report? If you knew anything about Spanish media, you would understand why Marca and other papers tried to make Neymar more expensive than Bale... EDIT: Here is a paraphrased quote from Barcelona's vice-president (now president) in the FIFA Football Court: "The total expense of Neymar's deal for the 2013-2014 deal can go to 86.5mi, however we reiterate his transfer fee was of 57.1mi including agent and signing fees".

Agree, but it is always better to have Falcao on the squad... More than Colombia's top player, he is their biggest leader in the dressing room!

Chocolate?

Ok, that was way over the top on my part. Sorry!I guess this is what happens after you have 24 beers forced through your throat as a "welcome prank" in University...

I dont care if you dont care! This is an open forum and just because I posted an opinion on the Portuguese League thread it doesnt mean it was intended to you...

Benfica is so unlucky though... Everytime they have a big chance of winning an European Cup once again, someone bigger than them gets knocked out of the Champions League (Chelsea, Juventus, etc).

Dont do this to me, we will never have a better cup run than in 2012! Fuck you Barcelona, Fuck you Bayern!!!

BarceLOLna is so fucked up due to Neymar's deal...