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We still cannot cross to save our lives FFS what do they practice in training? Drives me fkin bonkers how we can't cross...

Great 1-0 down We look absolutely fucking shite FFS why didn't we take a dedicated LB!! Kakuta is fucking hopeless and Lukaku couldn't hold up a paper bag. Tell kakuta to get te fuck and bring Marin on...

Lol RVP thread rage! I would sign RVP - makes Arse-nal weaker and also potentially stops our rivals getting him, We could leave him in the reserves as well or loan him out abroad to cover the wages, once he's signed and Romans pals have had a word Or, controversially, we could play him and hope he chips in with 20+ goals

No it was also extended further to cater for the loss of his Grandad... I'm sure he's keen to get back, but looks like 'lady luck' is hampering him again... Please God, let this be the end of it...

LOL, let's leave at that - Torres never asked to be a 50mill striker. Fair enough on the wages, but hell, we'd take them if offered Agree - let's get back on to RVP... Hope he doesn't go to Man Ure....

I thought his Grandad had died - hence the extended leave? I lost my Grandmother last month (now at the age where all relatives are on the slippery slope), and IT IS not a nice thing to happen... So maybe check some facts, before jumping to conclusions... EDIT: Just checked, his Grandad died on 15 July, so at least a week etc needed for funeral...

Sorry to re-post - but what is actual kick-off time need to set alarm to make sure I'm awake! Cream-crackered - just got back from the 'Worlds' biggest Ice-Caves, amazing, but 1800metres up - so lot of walking, not much oxygen and 3/4 packet of fags, plus being 36 - running on empty now

Looking forward to tonights match - any news on line-ups yet? The coverage starts at 11:30pm on CFCTV - does the game kick off at 11:45 (GMT) - well 00:45 here in Europe.....

Must be a cultural thing - USA demands instant success and anything else is shite... Torres may not have scored as many a he should, but you can't deny that he has been a 'team' player, providing some great assists. That's what I repect from a player - not just goals. Like I say could be a cultural thing, in England we are not so cut/dried on things - hence having 'draws' in sport, where in the US has to be a winner / loser. Not criticising - jut saying that's maybe why we give him less hard of a time than our US supporters. Guess we'll all know one August vs Wigan

Well he did win us the corner Drogba scored from to level the CL... So in my eyes he's contributed something positive, like all CFC players. Singling him out for hate is unnecessary IMHO...

Like I say happy to be proved wrong - maybe I will concentrate on him more next game

Then the shite really hits the fan... BUT after just watching 3 hours of Chelsea TV - the European highlights 04-07 Sheva and Crespo looked great and scored in the big games along with Drog and Lamps... I forgot about Geremi - those ears lol, but great passer Torres will be fine and we'll need to rely on smudge and our midfielders to also contribute a few goals Torres was one of the best strikers ever 2 years ago, form is temporary, class is permanent - winning the golden boot is the best thing to happen to him in a while - excited about him this season...

Edit - dam iPad and tiny box - oh we'll you can read my reply...

RIP - that is so bad...

100% Agree - and his final ball was awful, absolutely awful - on the odd occassion he whipped a decent ball into the box, there was nobody there - as they were so used to it not coming in, nobody gambled and went in there... For me - every time he had the ball, he looked scared and uncomfortable - very much the same as SWP - I often thought - 'headless chicken'... However, he provided a good few years of loyal service, had some great games and as a former CFC player - I'll always respect him - and hope he has a nice end to his career outside of CFC.

Mikel is an 'un-sung' hero - does all the dirty work and yes, people could argue he should be more creative blah blah... Simple fact is, he knows what his game plan is, he sticks to it and sticks to it well... My only critiscism would be - sometimes gives away cheap fouls for no reason, or gets booked very early (may not be true, just from what I remember) again for silly fouls - which limit him for the remainder of the match.

To be honest - I actually don't rate him all that much... Yeah he has potential, but he seemed nervous and awkward... Whereas, Hazard + Marin literally hit the ground running... I guess for me that's the sign of an 'established' player vs 'potential' player - an established guy gets on with the job, whilst the 'potential' needs time to settle... I admit KDB impressed me more than Kakuta (who looked absolutely shite! - why did we sign him )

Yeah but in 'My Opinion (just mine)' - Hulk seems much more worth it... Hulk would be 40million, an extra 10million... 30million IS LOTS of money, but @ 30million, getting a 7-8/10 player, an extra 10million for a 8-9/10 player does represent slightly better value... Luckily, I'm not in charge of Transfers - so guess we'll have to rely on RDM + Scouts to settle this one Lastly, if we do get Willan, I will cheer him on 100% every game - just something makes me want Hulk more...

Not if we get a 1 season wonder - ageing CF with 1 or 2 campaigns left... I'm keeping everything crossed though that Lukaku impresses again in the next game

Well he has a few more games to convince His first touch and link up play was not great, finishing was superb though. I also hope he can do it, but if he can't let's get him out on loan and after 30-40 games he should be a much better prospect or us next year.

That's my point we don't want to pay too much for somebody with a limited job to do, that's why I was happy for Maicon at 8mil for a few seasons, although watching Hutchinson last night, I would start with him the boy is immense! Anyway, back to strikers - we just need a good goal scorer, cheapest for a few seasons - Cavani will be 35 mill and then it's either him or Torres 50 mil on the bench... If Torres fails to deliver, then yes we need a new prominent signing, but just feel our attacking 3 need a genuine poacher/goal scorer. Happy for suggestions / alternatives though P.S. I do think Torres will come good, he's in the best form for some time.

I think we should get another older experienced striker, I would have Berbatov in a flash, hell I would even consider Owen on a pay for play deal... Lukaku needs a year in the prem, and this would be better achieved outside of Chelsea.

No way is he worth 30 million, I would rather take the risk with Hulk if Willan was even considered at that amount... Drives me mad, whenever we want a player, it's player value x2 (min) for us to secure their services!

100% agree! Although I have previously raised this point and been subjected to stats proving Torres had lots of chances created. Thing is, my own eyes just didn't see that - last night we looked more fluid and pacey ala Spain. I can only see good things for the team and Torres this year