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Tho i like the look of our new RB Appi, i do think Hutch should of been kept and played this year to see how he played out. Tis a pitty hope he comes back!

Sad to see Gudjohnsen at these smallers teams, i know his career has been over at the top level for years, but chelsea/barca in his prime to stoke bench is just not a way to go for a quality striker. Met the man when i was younger in the Chelsea hotel, signed an autograph and was sound as, me dad gave him a slagging because Eidur "looked bigger on the tv" my dad being at least 2 inches taller and wider then him and he took it in his stride, great guy. One of my 1st proper Hero's i'd say after Zola and Di matteo.

As good as mikel played today, i do think romeu is still the way forward, he's just simply a better player for what we want to try and do, Still think Oscar hazard AND mata cant play together, 2 is the max, their too much of the same thing, rotate it a bit or try something eles, A 4-3-3 is the way to go i feel, adds the natural width we need and a balances the squad a bit more in the middle which is good, Also we cant right of a legend like lampard just yet he'll find his new place in the team. Great win tho either way. If we had more pace at times with our attacks we'd hammer anyone, going inside too much slowly kills us.

I reckon that needs a warning from the FA, proper sly intentional dive, basterd.

I think whats he's getting at is that just because it says their on target dosent imply how good they were, once its on target it geos down as one whether its be a world class volley saved by a finger tip or a hilarious miss kick that rolled into the keepers hands yanno. No body can say cech didnt make some great saves today tho.

Bar the Torres comment, i agree, tho i think were already trying to be like them and its showing.

I disagree entirely, but ive already back my opinions with fact's so we'll leave it here.

This sum's up your miss understand of the game, with more width in the team, wingers going wide, it drags defenders out wide as well, which makes more space for Torres, so yes that is how "we" decide how many defenders are marking Torres, the rest is utter jibberish. The team is so narrow that nothing short of messi could break through, which i already explained. Messi also has a much easier league to play in as a whole, dont take anything away from stoke, we played to their strengths today, any top 10 PL side is a dam fine team.

We only started building a team for him this year, a team incapable of giving him a ball he wants is what we came up with, everything about this is a flop, but torres is only a small piece of it. Your nativity to his personal life dosent show much in the way of maturity either. You put any striker stuck in the middle today at stoke with those type of balls to him, nothing short of messi would get through, and i hate messi as a player but thats exactly what we would need and we still dont even know if that would work since messi never played the PL. Team need width, Give Torres a ball and some space and he will score, and what i mean by space is 2 defenders instead of 4 like today.

What a fifa mentality, you cant just get "rid" of player, his wife, kids lifestyle, friends everything has to be taken into consideration. He also cost us 50mill, more then most of the players bought to help him score, which they dont do, its very much worth are time to get him to score. No falcao he's the same damned player only on better form, and i only ever heard of one swap deal ever. So stop suggesting that happen, Im all for another striker of quality, someone in the league of cavani, or even a cheaper alternative to play with or some games instead of torres.

And we as a team have given him nothing to work with, if you want a striker who can play with anyone, then buy that, but we dont have that in ANY of our striker's, now torres has a very particular style of playing.THE TEAM dont play to that, thats not torres' fault. Maybe 50mill means he should be the best to you but he wont and ever will be the best at everything what he can do tho, provided the ball often is score some quality finishes, or have you forgotten his time at liverpool.

All your arguments are now null and void, ofc he has. 1 Chance in 90 mins missed, it was a bad miss but you think thats good enough? how is he ment to get back to form when he only gets one chance a game, it also took 25mins of stupid tippy tappy football to get that one poxy chance. Also do you base everything on just one game yea?

I think we should just let the children moan and winge about torres, they dont understand the game clearly, You cant compare Drogba and Torres, Drogba didnt need as much service, Torres is a finisher, Drogba was an all around striker, thats the difference, If the striker needs service then he needs service you play to his strengths, thats something were not doing, As someone said already im glad the people on the ground dont share these retarded opinion's or we really would be in trouble.

Pathetic football, endless passing to come to nothing, no width, zonal marking, trying to go through the middle with tippy tappy shitty passes against a team would can defend that type of football all day, Fucking Pathetic. Lol, its a tactic and its works? why the fuck deos everyone have to be attacking football all the time? what a joke, this is type of attitude that's ruining football, Better be some width this next half or we might as well give up now, also that must the smallest team Chelsea has fielded in 10years....against the biggest team in the league, nice tactics, why must this stupid barca/arsenal football haunt us as well.

He earns 170,000, which is still ridiculas. Also he deos make runs, all the time, he's never picked up which i highlighted earlier in what i thought were the problems in midfield. Also whoever suggested the false 9 idea should be shot, go support barca or spain.

Still think cavani is our man, if not give piazon a go until lukaku comes back next year, Falcao is a great player but identical to torres in playing style, no good to us at all. We need a score from anywhere, make it himself bully defenders all around kinda striker who can play with torres/sturridge/etc whoever mite be their.

2 year old*, anyway mate ive been a chelsea fan since 1998 ( i only count then as its the 1st season i properly supported every single game and every game since, but ive always been one since a very very young age, i remember De Matteo playing for example) im no Torres fan boy at all the facts are clear if he got passes he would score and he dosent get passed to, i think cavani should of been bought either way. Now, i never said mata wasnt good enough i said he was a great player if you bothered reading or ignoring what i wrote (which i suspect) i said he wasnt good enough if he isnt goin to pass to his striker, which he dosent do all too often, he also hasnt played well since last christmas, bar here and there, before that he was amazing. Also i ignored your question but its retarded and why would i waste my time on it.

Lol at you will go back to playing fifa, case closed.

Then you obviously dont watch the same matches, or you could see its because he never gets a ball.

Most assist's last year child. Yes, yes it is, Because sturridge is shite as well, Thats just retarded. Only technically, their completely difference players, playing in completely different sides, drogba only scored 5 goals last year btw, torres already has 3, Drogba is my hero but he couldnt get a ball last year from the midfield either and had less assist's, Go back to playing fifa you dont understand the game.

This, good to see someone eles gets it to, i also think he goes wide since the wingers are no doing their job properly at all, we're trying play like arsenal and walk it in and they showed everyone, it just simply dosent work.

Did ya bother reading at all?, their fantastic players that dont play well together (yet?), the midfield in a shambles no one knows what to do, Torres never gets passed to and therefore has to try and make goals rather then score them, this is the midfield's fault not his, put anyone in his place and they wont score often, he scored a few already btw he dosent have to score every single game, once every 2-3 matches is more then enough, if he gets assist's which is often does, this still dosent change the fact that he is never given the ball he wants, Hazard and him finaly started to gel at newcastle which was good but i havent seen it since.

Clearly he is not, for example last nite he took a shot from a ridiculas angle and put in the side net, while torres stood unmarked in the box screaming for the ball for a tap, which would of put us 3-1 up and i'd say safe to see it out. Mata hazard oscar etc are all great players and great passers what they need to be tho, is what we bought them for FUCKING WINGERS WHO PASS TO THE FUCKING STRIKER, not secondary strikers, no glory hunter selfish take a shot and cut inside, PASS THE FUCKING BALL TO TORRES AND GET HIM GOALS. thats why we spent the money.

Im going to quote myself from another tread, as its still 100% relevant here. Case closed. Internet forums make me sad.

Some of the comments here are just retarded, 80odd million spent on "passing" "creative" "barca -esch" players and they still cant give torres a ball to save their lives, Deos no one eles see that Torres has to drop back and get the ball himself or he simply wont get the ball? Never seen such a bad and confused midfield and tthose saying put sturrige in now instead? good jesus.