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Well said bro. actually I really don't like his penalty technique, I would rather have someone shoot the ball with power and angle rather than relying purely on luck.

Agreed, we need Costa or Remy at least. Drogba on the bench maybe for the final if we are at least 2 up.

Probably pull the plug on any deal now and keep him here due to Costa's injury.

Mikel's in Africa so we simply turn our attentions to another player. Unlucky Rambo, you've picked the short straw this month.

Hmm I guess I would be one 'of those belgians that just got their egos hurt and arent sensible enough to have a civilized discussion'.
Nice statement for MOTM I must say. Why on earth would my Ego be hurt?I'm not Lukaku. And not sensible enough to have a civilized discussion?
Let's go:
So your whole point is about talent AND about the fact that in your opinion Lukaku clearly misses raw talent to become, one day, a top striker at a club like chelsea.
Fair enough. Let me give you my opinion on this topic!
I would clearly disagree with you on the whole 'lacking talent' statement. I would like to ask you to clearify what you understand by 'talent'? As I'm reading your posts... I expect you say that 'talent' is something you can see after seeing a kid play only 5 minutes. I agree on you on this fact. I don't agree with you on the fact that this talent would never be influenced anymore in their further careers. It's like... ok your an amazing talent on your 6 years old => you will play for any top team in the world. When you don't shine in your youth teams every single week, this would mean you will never reach toplevel. I think professional football will show you more than enough proves of this statement being not 100% correct.
Also.. what is football talent for you? Because I'm starting to think that you like creative and flexible football players the most. I must admit I am also a huge fan of Hazard, Mata, Messi, Iniesta & Xavi... But to say that you're only talented if you can dribble, shoot, be agile and creative... hmmm I don't think so.
Lukaku clearly was a player that grabbed the attention of any spectator that watched him play in his youth teams. He made the difference in a lot of games. Clearly his impressive physical presence played a big part in this. But I think you can agree with me that every soccer team (also in the very low leagues) have guys with amazingly strong bodies... But if you don't combine this physical presence with a lot of talent.. you will never ever reach the level of a Division 1 team... let alone a Premier league team OR even a Top premier league team.
If you say Lukaku has not enough talent to be a topstriker... You make a fool out of almost all european top teams scouting cells, who were begging for his signature the moment he became Belgian League's top striker in 2009!
I think I can understand you on a certain point, which is: the moment he made his debut in Anderlechts first team... I had the same feeling as you.
Hmmm impressive body... but way to big and clumsy in his movement to ever become important for our team. Than he started scoring goals... => 'ok against lower table teams... says more about those team's defense than about Lukaku's talent. A little later he started scoring important and game winning goals, also against Belgians Top teams And eventually he even managed to score important goals in Europe.. at age 16-17! He became the most important player at Anderlecht. I can understand you think Anderlecht is a lousy team in a lousy league... but this shows little respect!
So Lukaku and talent (or the lack off talent concerning your point of view.)
What about:
physical presence good headers a nose for scoring goals speed power very strong shot with his left foot Are these no talents for you? I really cannot understand you don't see these attributes as important for a young potential top striker! Lukaku has the amazing talent that he can really put any defense under pressure. If you want to use him as a super sub... he has all the abilities to change a lost game! If you use him as a starter... I guarantee you , you will see goals!
Somewhere in the beginning of this topic I said the same thing. When he was not even on our bench.. people where complaining about the same things. My advice then was (and still is)... give the boys playtime and he will prove anybody wrong. At this time... Lukaku is on the n°3 spot of strikers with the least minutes needed to score a goal (Dzeko & Hernandez in front of him)! Same discussion can also be held about these two guys actually. Would you say they are clear talents? Or not?
IMO these boys have one big talent that is really important to any topteam => their nose for goals! And this a talent where you are born with and which is VERY difficult to learn afterwards!!! I don't understand why you cannot see this on Lukaku.
Let him finish the season at West Brom (maybe even another year after) and let this guy prove your wrong himself. If he fails after this time and is not ready to fight for a spot at Chelsea... Then I will be more than men enough I was wrong about my believe in Lukaku. I hope you will do the same thing. And until that far... I think it's fair to Roms that we do not judge him before he even has got the time to prove himself for us... what do you think?
The reason why I 'attack' your opinion... is because I'm clearly couldn't disagree with you more. Why do I think I'm in a position to tell this?
I have seen almost every game of Lukaku in the last 4 years. Correct me if I'm wrong... but I don't think you have seen him play as much as that. Also the fact that almost every important scout in Europe is convinced about the quality Romelu has... clearly supports me back

So 2 years of continuous support and belief, spiced with a big fucking amount of hope is considered plastic? Chelsea FC as a club has gone WAY too far to accommodate Torres. Get rid of Drogba and Sturridge, make him absolute number 1. Invest in an entirely new branch of offensive players to suit his playing style, yet his dire attitude hasn't changed, his soul and heart is not with this club. I don't care if you call me a plastic fan for wanting him gone, but I sure as hell doesn't want a player walking on the pitch for 90 minutes doing absolutely nothing apart from falling on his arse occasionally. And keep in mind he what he is getting paid for doing just that. Honestly, you can fuck off and take Torres and your morale highground with you, ignorant prick.

Don't be mistaken, Livershite would take him back in a heartbeat. Only problem is Sturridge will feel like he can't escape Torres and will go insane.

You guys are making it sound like Kalou and Bosingwa were worse than Torres and their only attributes were work ethic and commitment. They also performed better than Torres. It's an insult to compare Torres to any of our former players

As much as I hated Kalou you could never question his commitment and work ethic. Same goes for Bosingwa.
Torres on the other hand has no commitment, no work ethic, no desire, no fight, nothing. The bloke doesn't deserve the talent he has/had.

All i can say is, is that I'm buzzing, so glad it looks like he is going. Definitely the worst player ever, and most hated player this team has ever had. I've never hated a player more than him, despite Joe Cole being a tosser when he went to Liverpool at least he scored all those vital goals he did at Chelsea.
But yeah Torres fuck off and never come back, now lets go get another forward.

He should be appointed Player Manager, then he would be sacked.

People often say that Guivarc'h was the worst player striker to win the World Cup. But I disagree he had a very specific role in France's '98 triomphe. He was a defensive foward and a target man, he would hold the ball up for a better player (Zidane). And he would tire out defences, so Thierry Henry could be subbed into matches late on.
You may be asking "What the fuck does Guivarc'h have to with this topic Spike, you dickhead?". Well I'll answer that, you fuckers.

Neil Ashton tends to always be spot on with emerging stories from Chelsea recently. I'm certain he has an insider and believe this story 100%.
Torres - It started with love and excitement, it turned to desperation and hope and now it's pure hatred.
Get out of this club, you are no longer welcome. I hope you get booed every time your name is read out and every time you touch the ball. You don't deserve to play in the same team, the same pitch, the same stadium as legends like Zola and Osgood. You don't even deserve to rot in the reserves. The reserve players shouldn't be witness to your absolute shitness. It would be a bad influence on them. You should be made to train alone in the park up the road from the training ground.
From the day he put on a Chelsea shirt he didn't want to play for us. He knew his knee was going and couldn't resist the money.
You selfish, ungrateful, disgusting excuse for a man.

lol. I guess we sent the wrong striker to Liverpool.

No, because we can see with our own two eyes that he's not fit to wear the shirt.
Question is, do you get paid to defend the cunt?

I think Smeagol sums up my feelings to Torres (and Benitez)