BlueLyon

Even for wingback he is too slow. I sort of hate-love Alonso. He scored some realy important goals and has quite good attitude. No denying that he has been important player past two seasons. But he is so fucking slow and I want a dynamic LB. Frustrating.

During his season before injury, he was on par with Sandro, at least in Italy. I remember people talked about him as big coup whoever signs him. After injury he didnt play much and left for quite small fee and low reputation. But give him a run of games and he will be better than Alonso at the very least. This reminds me of Salah who everyone wrote off and kept picking Willian who was more ''proven''. Salah left and rest is history.

This dude was ripping Serie A and been one of best prospects at LB. What happend? Did injury break him so much? Or just another case of player who got couple games and already written off. Here he is just marked as some backup, only good enough for small games. I guess at another club where they would have more faith and actual plan to use him, he would be great or at least very good by now. Just wait till we sell him and he becomes great by playing week in week out

I dont get why is there so much hype about him. I try to watch matches but I just dont see it. Not last season nevermind this one. On the other side it took 10 minutes to see Sancho is a special talent.

See De Ligt...now that is a proper CB. A ball playing CB yes, but also someone who knows how to actualy defend. Unlike Ramos or Bonucci who are complete frauds as CB, yet they get all that recognition because swag, hype, media and fanboys. Sadly zero chance we get De Ligt. Much like Skriniar. Both are in 100m region which might be obtainable if we sold Christensen, but the competition is too strong. Real, Barca will be over them and they wont pick us sadly. My bet is to try Lucas Hernandez. Expensive, but just maybe a bit more possible.

Dunno, maybe Roman priority is that the club generates enough money. And here Marina is doing damn great job. Obviously wont be sacked. But that might be a problem. Our goal should be to get back among best, not generate money. Its possible though that we want to go fully legit, self-sufficient club with zero need for owners investment. That however means jack shit if you have competiton that breaks uefa restrictions with no punishment. Anyway a DoF is absolutely required. Marina can do all those financial obligations great, but I doubt she has any clue how to form a football project. You can have scouts to track players but thats not enough. Yet we are doing exactly that IMO. Track players left and right by scouts, Marina gets recommendations and does the financial part. But there is no vision or project; hence our dismal transfer record and some absolutely ridiculous buys and sales. A quality DoF knows some stuff not to sign Drinkwater for 40 fecking millions. Whoever went ahead with that transfer should get immediate brain check. And here we are, still months without Dof. Other teams lose Dof, they appoint new one very soon (Juve or Sevilla comes to mind). In another thread I mentioned we have probably worst results next to United in past few years considering the amount of cash spent and transfers done. Woodward is also a fraud and doesnt know what he is doing at all. Appointing Mou in first place, but what is more, they signed 3! #7 in past few years (Di Maria, Depay and Alexis), all turned complete shite. One is a mistake, 3 is pattern of incompetence. Just like at Chelsea with all those weird buys and transfer sales of today world class players that shouldnt be sold in first place.

I meant more about butterfly effect...but obviously Willian should pass, however that doest mean we would have won. Willian might pass, Morata score, but on the other side Luiz could then think this game is won, had brainfart and everton equalize. Match ends 1:1... Willian not assisting to Morata wasnt reason we drew and if he did pass, its impossible to say we would have won that game. We lost because our whole attack and midfield wasnt up to it and we didnt score. Also for Hazard, I dont agree his selfishless style makes him elite because there are times when he should try to score and went for the pass to someone in worse position/finishing skill. Elite are players who know what to do when to do it. Not saying Eden isnt elite, but he could improve on that final decision making tbh. Has many other qualities making him elite though.

You just know we will get the damn ban. Meanwhile City and Psg will walk scott free. But why the hell would we risk 1+ year ban over some 16 year old nobodies? Is our board realy so retarded? What are the odds that 16yo will develop in big star and replace all possible signings we might make during ban? Nevermind a 16yo in Chelsea of all teams? We are so awful in development, yet some smart fuck in the board think its cool to buy these players (first Kakuta, then Traore) and put everything else to risk? And not only we do it once, but twice? Yes we might not be proven guilty in the end, but there is no smoke without fire and whole thing just stinks.

We should buy a couple players while we still can...

Dunno thats kinda pointless to talk about...what if... If Willian passed to Morata, that dude might still miss open net. And if we scored who knows, maybe opponent would score one more of their chances too... Willian is frustrating indeed but these scenarios are never black and white. You cant imagine one thing different, but everything else stays the same. One change like that could completely shake things up. Or we can go into ridiculous and imagine what if Chelsea never sold Robben...

Me too man. These players are reason why I love Chelsea today. For a lot of people that generation is just one of many like Desailly and Zola before, but for younger ones its probably why they follow this club and while I like Hazard, Costa, Luiz,...that 2005 generation was just something else. Even if we created balon dor team in 2020, it wouldnt feel that great as it was back in 2005. I guess thats nostalgia, being kid and growing up, watching these players. I remember always pretending to be Lamps when we played in the school... When you are older, you know more about football than ever, you understand things more, but you just dont have that carefree feeling you had as a kid watching matches...or maybe thats just me haha

Joe Cole....the happy days. He had some of that joga bonito about him and was always entertaining to watch. Shame he left quite soon, at his peak he was realy amazing player, probably doesnt get enough credit, but maybe thats because he didnt spend more years here and joined fooking liverpool. Anyway great lad, brought many great moments to Chelsea.

Lol the sheep shaggers? I wouldnt mind that at all, but since these "sheepshaggers" are managed by Lamps and Jody, plus Mount and Tomori play there, I find it sort of disrespectful...

Sad so many fans dont know any respect anymore. Sure Cahill isnt at his best anymore (and doesnt even play in first 11), but people are still upset whenever he does play or even gets "captain role" (which btw is totaly understandable considering how long he is here).

Nope, a total transfer fees, loan fees,... Net spent balance is around 1,1bn for City, 700m for Psg, 650m for United, 550m for Barca, 400m for Chelsea and 360m for Real (top 6 net spenders). Sure we managed to get whole lot of money from sales, but what the fuck did we spend it on? Real and Barca are funded by state loans, psg and city use money laundry tactics, United too probably and they get away with ffp still. We did it fairly and got money from sales plus whatever we could afford without breaking ffp. Yet at the end of the day club spent 1,3bn on players like Torres, Morata, Drinkwater, Bakayoko,...doesnt matter if it was net spend or not. We still forked big chunks of cash on players. And before someone still talks about net spent, look at Juve and Real who both did much better than Chelsea over last 8 years and spent less. Also talking about not being able to compete with top clubs for top players, its just not true. Maybe the very best (expensive) like Neymar or Mbappe, sure, but 100m something are all available if we decided to go for. While Barca paid 120m on Dembele, we decided to fork 150m on Bakayoko, Drinkwater and Morata. One might think we couldnt afford to pay 120 on single player, but look where Morata, Bakayoko and Drinkwater are now. We had to spend another 60m on Jorginho, Kovacic loan fee and buy Giroud. On top of that very likely we will still need another expensive striker. Instead of buying top striker one summer, top midfielder next summer etc etc, we go for these short fixes that in the end cost us time, more cash and just a lot of frustration. Either you buy someone cheap and hope he turns well, or just fork whatever necessary for top player. We go for middle with decent, but nothing special players who are done after a season and still cost a shitload of cash. The board has zero clue. We have been sorting LB and striker since Cole and Drogba and still couldnt find two fucking players, good enough to stay for like 5 years. And you dont even need to spend shitload of cash. Liverpool got Robertson for peanuts for example. Conte was complaining about signings, as did many fans but lets not forget the problem was who we bought, not the cash. 150m on three players alone, but all were wrong choices. Instead of buying 3 quality players and put 2 from academy, we go for 5 quantity players. A year later, most suck, so we have to sell them and we need to buy new ones to keep squad numbers and again we dont bring quality. Rinse and repeat. Maybe once every few years, we actualy get a great player like Hazard, Azpi, Jorginho or Kante, but its anomaly not a rule. Our current board needs a damn director and we are fucking with that too for several months now. Cant we just get things done quick like any ambitious club does? Who sticks without dof for so long? And dont get me putting Marina in charge lol. She is good with income, but this needs some football brain. We bought so many shit or temporary players and got rid of so many good ones its no fucking coincidence anymore and no one at the club got the stick yet. We can only thank higher force to have luck with managers recently who did wonders with given players. Only United is doing worse considering amount of cash spent and results. We won 2 titles yes but we also didnt play CL twice in three years now which is terrible considering all the cash we fork on players. P.s. now this seems like a massive rant, but its just pointing how things are IMO. Not that I dont enjoy supprting the team this or any previous seasons. I actualy think we are doing great this year so far. The club given the players is doing very well except for that Mourinho final season and last half of season. But the board is total garbage for years now. They fuck things up and coach gets the blame. I miss days of Kenyon at helm.

There is alot of talk we have been pulling restraints in spending money last few years, but if you look at the numbers, we are only behind city in total fees since 2010 (according to Cies). 10. Atletico Madrid have spent £688.74million in transfer fees since 2010 9. Roma have spent £729.31million in transfer fees since 2010 8. Real Madrid have spent £822.16million in transfer fees since 2010 7. Liverpool have spent £965.50million in transfer fees since 2010 6. Juventus have spent £978.12million in transfer fees since 2010 5. Manchester United have spent £993.45million in transfer fees since 2010 4. Paris Saint-Germain have spent £1.120billion in transfer fees since 2010 3. Barcelona have spent £1.258billion in transfer fees since 2010 2. Chelsea have spent £1.310billion in transfer fees since 2010 1. Manchester City have spent £1.325billion in transfer fees since 2010 Our spending isnt weak at all, we just spend it on absolutely wrong players with some exceptions.

Great talent but his attitude is piss. Late on trainings, doesnt work hard and during games he doesnt even attack the opponent near him. For those reported 85m its a giant risk.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7738251/chelsea-ngolo-kante-football-leaks/ Amazing, Kante realy is one of those people that make you believe in human race again.

Its time to try Hazard Pedro Willian. Drop Morata, he should be in top form right now, but yet again fails to deliver and Im not even talking about goals.

Crappy crappity crap... Should have won this one but its hard without a proper striker.

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Haha I see. Well in that case if you want to simplify, then you should call these players forwards, not strikers, because striker is already type of forward (like striker, wide/left/right forward, centre forward, raumdeuter, poacher, secondary/supporting striker, false 9,...) Calling all these "striker" has been accepted by most fans to simplify things, but techicaly its just wrong. Every striker is a forward, but not every forward is a striker.

I never got that feel about Modric. He is world class in ball retention, runs and passing. But to me Rakitic is way better shooter for example. But yeah both are better than Kova. Speaking of Kova, it will be interesting what we do in the summer. I love his technical ability, its miles ahead of RLC or Barkley, but right now it feels he would be more of a luxury signing with all the midfielders we have. Barkley managed to bench him. Yet again without Kova, our midfield again becomes rather weak in quality. Hopefuly he improves, cements his spot in 11 and gives some scoring proweness to his game.

Exactly. We are playing well this season so far. I remember the same shit on forum last year about Conte and the players when we were actualy 2nd in the league and doing well in CL. As long there wont be breakdown in second half of season and we qualify to CL one way or another, Im happy with season. Results are good, rotation is there, happy to see two english players in Barkley and RLC getting minutes. CHO will get his time too now that we got promotion in EL. Only downside for me is Morata and generaly our striker options, but that has been improving lately too. People who want to ditch Kante and Azpi however probably started watching football yesterday.

True, Salah is wide forward like Ronaldo. But Firmino is centre forward, not striker. Basicaly those two switch positions all time in Klopp system to provide dynamic flow in attack. But neither is focal point of attack or spearhead if you want. Their forwards distribute goals between eachother, the positioning of front three is just approximate to set up the tactics and due to player limitations or advantages. Lewandowski is clean example of striker and Bayern is example of striker oriented team, where everything leads to #9. When you watch Chelsea team play, our wingers and midifeld try to find Morata who runs behind spaces (due to Morata not being as dominant striker and Hazard being individualy by far best attacker in team, that might not look as clear though) Its also true however that sometimes when we play Giroud and Hazard, those two both play forward roles. Thats why Giroud has linked up better with Hazard than Morata. Giroud is excellent at setting up (better than he is in finishing tbh) and Hazard benefits more there. Someone posted a while ago some stats about how many passes have been completed between Hazard and Giroud and Hazard and Morata. Turned out Giroud has linked up with Hazard more because of his role in the team, since he often acted as supporting striker to Hazard who is very polyvalent in his game, being a #10, winger who cuts inside or even wide forward. Meanwhile when Morata plays, focus is to feed him the ball while he runs behind defences (unless someone else is in better position obviously, but going by general setup we have its basicaly get the ball to Hazard or rotate it around the field and then find Morata. Pedro could also be counted as wide forward due to his runs behind defences. That cant be applied to Willian who is winger who cuts inside (and fails most time lol).