BlueLyon
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So, I will made deep analysis, based on my knowledge and data I found on web to compare Cavani and Falcao, who fits our squad more. First Falcao; He is overall a better player then Cavani, for sure, give him the ball and he can score from anywhere inside penalty area. On edge, left side, right side, bicycle kick, volleys, lobs,...anything. Great penalty taker aswell. He is also deadly in air, when team mates cross to him, despite only 1,77m, he jumps higher than most of SPANISH defenders (note that in england, defenders will cover him more tight and are also stockier and stronger). He is great with both feet, can create his own chances and can bring victory to his team on any match. Stamina is great, pace is good (Cavani is faster), relatively strong for his size. Had great matches vs us, Real or Barca, regular scorer in europa league, but he still has to show his skill in CL. Last season, he scored 42 goals and made 6 assists. Now to Cavani: As he plays in Italy, he is facing stronger defences, but the defenders there are not that fast as those in Spain or even in PL. He has similar atributes as Falcao, but his shooting is not on that level (but still very good), however, he could improve much. Year younger, already played in european competitions (CL) and scored goals vs City and us. He did well in top club competition, while Falcao didnt realy inspire in CL yet. While at Atletico, everyone plays on Falcao, Napoli had 3 similar players last year; Cavani, Hamšik and Lavezzi and still Cavani scored 30+ goals. I also think that as we will play lot on Hazard and Mata as well (if Falcao comes to us, he wont be THAT important as he is in Atletico), maybe Cavani would fit better, as he played with equal players at Napoli. Perhaps he isnt as clinical finisher as Falcao is, he has other advantages. He is taller (I will explain that later) faster and has much better TEAM WORK than Falcao. As soon Falcao gets the ball, he will shoot 9/10 times. Cavani however, will pass if he sees the better chance or completely open team mate. Along 36 goals, he also had 10 assists (in CL; 5 goals, 2 assists). Im sure that vision and passing abilities are very important for striker and in comparisson to Falcao, the later is much more selfish player (but as long he scores goals, no one will complain, right?). And its not just about assists, but at Chelsea, we play double passes a lot and if we had striker who can pass back, that would be much better, specialy to open up the defences. So, Chelsea play offensive play (much similar to Napoli and passing trio of Cavani, Hamšik and Insigne, while Atletico plays on counter attacks with lot of crosses). The offensive play also forces opponent to pull back and tighten their defence. The main danger of Falcao at atletico are his fast counter attack runs and crossing from sides. Chelsea is close to neither close to Atletico style. We dont cross so much, but pass more while counters are also more third plan to our players. It would be difficult to our players to adopt crossing and counter attacking just because of the new striker. It might never work aswell. Cavani would fit more to this as he is passing a lot with Hamšik and back in time, with Lavezzi aswell. Another thing is that Cech still loves to kick the ball long into the middle of the field, like he did to give the ball to Drogba. Just because Falcao can jump high in penalty area and push the ball in the net, its completely different to catch the ball and control it in middle of 4 opponent players and then run with it towards opponent goal. He lacks height here, while Cavani is almost 8centimetres higher (1,84m), he could easily catch the ball without jumping. Also he is harder to push of the ball I guess, two facts; Italian league is physicaly stronger than spanish, and secondly his goals against us and City were based on his strenght aswell - he was strong enough to block Kompany, Lescott, Cahill, Luiz, Terry when scoring those goals. Juve, Milan and Inter also had/have world class defences and he still scored many times against them. And Milan had Thiago Silva last year, there was match where Cavani scored hattrick vs Milan. Something different than score goal vs barca who has shit defence for such top team or even us, who conceded 3 goals, scored from Falcao, but its obvious that our defence while we play Cahill-Luiz sucks and anyone better could score three goals when Luiz has bad day. I will let conclusion to you, I rate Falcao as worlds best striker ahead of Cavani, but some things question me, Falcao is very similar to younger Torres, he is not that tall despite high jumping and there is also posibility that he just couldnt scoring goals for us, we dont cross much and dont play on counters. Both would cost around 40-60mio, but I think Cavani would be still cheaper considering that Falcao is actualy scoring every game nowdays. My pick probably would be Cavani, but I wouldnt care who comes realy of these two, I just fear that Falcao could turn to be hot shot only in Spain, not in league like PL. Who knows realy...Falcao proved that he can be king in smaller club and europa league, but can he lift top club in champions league?
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We could actualy embarass them...
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cmon
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Considering we have terrible strikers and defence, victory with one scored goal and none conceded would be enough for me. Im pretty sure we wont trash them with either Torres or Danny upfront. If only Moses would know how to score regulary. He was great today. He took his chance, unlike Sturridge, Piazon,...
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Well better than defeat, but the game showed we have some SERIOUS issues. Strikers are terrible, defence is terrible and midfield is just not strong enough. We have players, but they dont do the work. Terry is getting old, Luiz makes mistakes,Rambo, Mikel, Romeu,..all look inconsistent. But buying another CM is just goodbye to either Rambo, Romeu or Mikel. Defo, we need strong forward like Cavani and strong cb like Hummels. I just wonder where would Luiz then play. We cant just bench 30mio defender.
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United with their second squad is winning against our first. Embarrasing And that was certain penalty........................................
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Certain goal Azpi...how much worse can it get....
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Cavani and Hummels.
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Jesus fuck what the fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck is this shtttttt??????????????????????????????
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Those audi chairs look sehr gut
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Powell looks great prospect, whyy the fuck didnt we bought him? He came cheap for english player...
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http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/150027/1/watch-chelsea-vs-manchester-united.html Great one
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Place Luiz at CM and buy another CB. Diego Godin, Papadopoulos, Subotic, Hummels, Howedes,...
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Abramovich facepalm says it all realy...
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Our players attention on the game is 30%. Moses plays very well so far, Piazon looks a bit fragile, Romeu inconsistent, Sturridge needs to control the ball, Azpi has terrible crosses, Mikel is very agressive, Mata is lost, Cech wtf, Luiz..., Cahill unvisible (decent), Bertrand is trying to attack well. United has bunch of this fucking luck, always Chicarito damn..Second half bring Marin or Hazard for Piazon.
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Calm the fuck down, our players are like chickens without heads..
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FFS...speechless
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And Chelsea reputation would decrease even more, Romeu would be described as dirty player, hated by football fans. If others players are cunts, I hope we dont act like them. Beat them by punishing them with high victory, rather than using force and tackle someone badly.
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Sometimes they look like they dont know what to do with the ball. They try to keep it instead of pass it on as soon they get it. But there is Torres who is absolutely garbage when keeping possession. He somehow gets past one or two defenders but he never shoots, he keeps the ball until he loses it.
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Im sure Ibra will say something like this after Messi/Ronaldo wins it: I dont need trophy, everyone knows Im the best. Like a boss.
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Atletico manager Simeone should be on list too.
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Why the hell Bison isnt Bison anymore? World is so unfair...
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You missed Guidetti, Rodri (benfica), Insigne,... There are plenty of them, but it has no point of spending 15mio on such prospects when we need a powerful striker. If you wants semi cheap prospect, play Lukaku or Danny. Personaly I would even play Torres ahead of any under 23yrs old available striker right now. Too much risk in the development of that player, his inexperience, possibility that he wouldnt fit in our system, lack of confidence. Top strikers are almost all above 24 years old because experience is key to be great striker and have ability to win the match. And we need a striker with winning mentality, someone who can win match on his own, when whole team fails. Drogba was doing that for us, Falcao, Cavani are doing it for their clubs now. Get one of these two in winter if we want to get on next level, buying some kid just because we dont want to play with torres is ridiculous.
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Homegrown or english-born, should count for both. Sorry I missed Ashley Cole from team, but Terry and Lamps were injured, while Bertrand and Danny came on as subs. Josh is overrated and will probably have hard time getting in squad, while Hutch is special case, considering his injuries. The whole point of this topic was that we should ALSO look at english players, not just buying foreign (and that doesnt mean that foreign players are not good, loyal or give 100% for club). It simply means that since ww are looking for a CM, we should look after english-born players to keep some Balance between foreign and home players. Every club shares a lot sympathies if they have home players. They just give that magic that foreign players cant. Im not talking of skills, but having Lampard as playmaker when he was younger was much more powerfull than having Mata as playmaker and they are both great players, but Lamps has something that Mata will never have. That 'thing' or whatever you call it. And that guy who was comparing overrated english players like Downing with Hazard has missed the whole point of this tread. Its not about putting shit english players ahead of foreign talent like Hazard, its about ALSO having english talented players who will in next years play as starters along their foreign team mates. Cheers
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Another very important fact is that Cavani is much better passer than Falcao and also has great vision for a striker. I could somehow compare him to Rvp from this point. And also Falcao is much more selfish player, but sometimes that is also good thing for striker, however for harmony in team, striker should know how to pass aswell. That is another reason, why would Cavani fit so much better to us and understand with Hazard and Mata. After all, at Atletico there is falcao and the rest, at Napoli it was Cavani, Hamsik (Mata) and Lavezzi (Hazard). It would work here I think.