BlueLyon

Seems like very realistical list, but please no Flamini, Tasci, Badstuber or Zarate. Lewandowski is not option in january (Dortmund wont sell), but there are some more players I might add to list; Defenders: Yanga-Mbiwa, Benatia, Garay, Douglas (Twente), Mids: Fellaini, Bender Strikers: Schurle, Ba, Gomis,

The worst player in history along Bogarde. Piece of shit, doesnt deserve to wear this kit, I hope we dont sign any other Lpool player again. Please G T F O ! ! !

Bring in the young talent they said, we will play attractive barca style they said.... Fuck, Im realy realy sad about this one. Probably wont have such chance in next five years with this tactics. Mata just isnt the playmaker here, he was great under AVB and had some fantastic games after it, but he is exteemely inconsistant. Get rid of Torres today, he is fucking embarasment, he never runs to track opponent, his pace and positioning is fucked up and his shooting...dont get me started. We didnt play neither efficient or attractive. What is the point of having such talent if some fucking Corinthians, Shakhtar, Atletico play so much nicer football? And we spent 80mio for them. Get in a decent striker and manager plus a good deeplying playmaker and get rid of that Torres fucker. The only trophy I realy wanted this season, yet players and whole club was outplayed by Corinthians, club that finished 22 points behind Fluminense in Brasileirao serie A. Enough said. We are officialy average team or should I say Arsenal 2.0. You dont win finals with talent, but experience. And yet people want Isco, Willian,...you just dont get it?! De Rossi, Falcao, Moutinho, not some kids like Isco...looking at current situation, we wont win anything in next two years. FACT!

Im sure Coentrao would join us and Real woukd sell as he wasnt 'that' at Rm. He seems to play much better for Portugal than Rm, maybe he doesnt suit them. Anything in range of 25mio would let him go, but we should give some chance to Ryan.

Players like Sanchez, Mascherano, maybe Villa could come, but he respects barca in all ways and wouldnt pay ridiculous fees to drag Pedro, Busquets, Inesta,...just to join Chelsea. If anything, how many barca players (that were products of lamassia) left the club in last ten years? Im speaking for those who have suceesed in first team, like Busquets, Xavi...not Krkic and such players. They have their own philosophy, they would never sell catalan players who are world class to anyone. All that Busquets talk is just bs...

Is he more of a power runner or marking man like Mikel?

While we talk of barca players, maybe we should try sign that guy Messi, he seems pretty good too.

I know Mvila has bad attitude, but for low price we could get great CDM. Im not following him recently, I heard his progress stalled, is it true? Or Capoue, Bender, Luiz Gustavo, Fernandinho (even he is more CM).

Rafinha Alcantara could eventualy replace Busquets, but Barca wont sell Sergio, probably never. Busquets will remain loyal (as Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol,...) and Barca doesnt need to sell him, even an offer for 40mio comes in...

If he scores 2 more goals in next game, I bet his price will go sky high even further.

PSG is not doing that good in french league due to lack of ambition in there. What matters if they win, they probably saying to themselves. CL is another story, they give 110% in the games, also Carlo is very good manager and tactician. If they fall out of CL, they will do what its necessary to at least win League 1, but its not their ''priority''. They want to go further as possible in CL, you can see that.

Psg is doing great job I think. They buy reasonable (big, but in right areas). In their first season, they come through group of CL (City couldnt do it in second year), they have great coach and a very balanced team of hard workers, experience and youth as well creativity. Pastore might be a bit off, but Carlo did good job this year. Even Lavezzi is doing fine recently, despite big problems in beggining. If PSG signs Sneijder they will have big chance to go far this season. They remind me of Chelsea since Roman tok it over. They spend even more, but prices gone up too and they have very balanced team, like we had since 2003-2012. I think in CL, they will be regular competitors for high spots, dont forget that they will get Lucas in winter (and possibly Sneijder?), they also have young Sakho, Matuidi, Veratti,...who can evolve in fantastic players. Ibra and Thiago Silva are top class already, no doubt.

I said barca is special case, as they have both cams and wingers and can play wide too. I agree with you bout 4:3:3 with Moutinho, it could work, but 1.) We need manager that can do that 2.) Mikel wont be good enough to play alone in DM, unfortunely. We need Essien type then. 3.) To play possession football is hardest thing to work in football. There must be no egos, complains,...Players must work as team, everyone needs to be attacker and defender at same time. Communication is extremely important and all players in field must know their exact role. As for 'bonus', there must be some plan B (for example if we buy powerful outside penalty shooter that would cause danger with long shots). --- In that style, we would then need powerful striker (ala Cavani), Moutinho, Explosive allround/B2B DM with nice passing and no nonsense play, eventualy CB that would replace Terry. One more thing, possession football is something that develops for years, we could reach our peak in 2/3 years from now, we will need to be very patient.

Either you play direct football (with wingers) or passing football (with CAMs). Bayern, Madrid, United HAVE wingers. They use width and speed to score with either quick counters or planned attacking. Barca has playmakers and wingers; they are special example and thats why they are sucessful with their philosophy. Arsenal had playmakers (Cesc, Nasri,...) and it didnt gave them results. They coundnt even beat Birmingham (?) in that Carling cup final year ago...it wasnt because of they sold players, but because of their mentality. We have players with awkward mentality at moment, no hardworkers ala Vidal, no die hard club lovers (not counting old legends like Terry, Lamps, Cole, Cech,etc.). Only Moses and Mata seem to realy try and even Mata gets tired too quickly. He just doesnt have engine like Iniesta for example... So either you play direct football with wingers or passing forever with three attacking playmakers. We have Oscar, Hazard and Mata. They dont offer quick runs, wide play etc. Im not saying about tiki taka but about passing game. We can only pass forever, but there is no plan B and no end product. Even with direct football, like Bayern plays or RM, you can play beautiful. Why did we go to this team play with no wingers, it questions me. That is the point. If we had Hazard (the one from Lille)-Mata-Bale/Sanchez/Moses (improved one)/Dzsudzsak in formation 4:3:3, our play speed would increase and we would have all round attack; dribbling, quick passing, crossing, distance shooting. Now, we only have endless passing, what I call tikitaka. How many times we scored from distance this season? from cross? from great dribble from our winger? One way attack, opponent will place four muscled giants in front of their goal and we are screwed. There is some reason for bad results as we are in transition, with no real manager and no striker, but Mata-Oscar-Hazard just wont work. Too one dimensional and unconsistent/lacks of pace and stamina. We have no wide play and you cant compare us to Bayern, Shakhtar,...They dont play tikitaka but direct wing football. We dont have wingers. You cant win big matches in that way. With Mazacar, we also dont have philosophy and coach to direct them to play more efficient. Final time to place Oscar in CM and buy a winger to play along Mata and Hazard. We had Mata as our playmaker and in summer we need to buy a winger and CM (rumours about Modric). Then we bought playmaker (Hazard) instead of winger; but he could play fantastic as winger, so I had no problem. Then we bought another Cam, instead of CM. Oscar was planed to play in Modric position, then he moved upfront, leaving us with no width, DPL, height, speed, strenght,... In first games, we rock our opponent didnt known our style. Then they saw how one dimensional we are and stoped us with ease. You dont spend 80mio and then cant win one game in a row of 6, transition is not problem, but players and their mentality. At least we have Moses to open the game more.

Yeah, but except Barca, no one that tries to play tiki taka is sucessful nowdays. Yes people enoy watching it (thats why Ajax has so many fans), but it doesnt give you big results. Arsenal are fine example (well they sold their best players too, they would have fantastic squad if they kept Rvp, Cesc, Song, Adebayor, Cole,...), still the style just seems its not efficient. Real is trying to play nice football, but even they have issues with inconsistency. Ronaldo saves them many times too. I dont want us to play tikitaka, I never liked that style, and only Barca was sucess in that. I want us to be efficient in front of opponent goal and not open our legs wide in front of our goal. But lets wait for a manager, some new players, what style will we play and end with transition. Then make judgement, I will.

Is there any chance of us signing Song in january/summer? He played for Arsenal, but I dont think he is that loyal to them nowdays, and he doesnt play important role in Barca, so he might want to leave. Toure was in similar position and then he left for City for 25mio£. I think Song would evolve in world class CM if he would play regulary. I cant imagine him joining us, unless we offer Barca Luiz in exchange. But I would keep David, he still has something special about him.

If Klopp would come, two of dortmund players would follow him for sure. He knows his team and players love him. I think a CB he trusts most and midfielder/striker. Sure we can buy them, and Klopp would give them reason to join us. I just hope whoever we get, he will do fine job and wont be sacked in 3 years at least.

No pain, no gain. Board has no patience with Danny and thats why he will never suceed here unfortunely. To still play Torres ahead its idiotic. I cant blame Danny if he wants to go, he will play more and thats it. Board is to blame for letting english talented player leave, not even try him properly.

Isnt Moutinho best in 4:3:3, not in double pivot?

Lets try to buy Aubameyang and Fernandinho. Both are good and have great season, also they wouldnt cost more than 35mio combined (15+20m). Aubameyang has some great atleticism for his height, reminds me of Ibra a bit. About Diame/Ba. It would be worth a punt, but I think there is no chance board would go after Diame, while Ba will probably stay at NCU...

I didnt say he would play AM, thats just an option as he can play there. But he is best as B2B midfielder (instead Rambo). He offers lot of energy and heart in both ends of pitch, giving us hard worker. Also his technical skill is actualy very good, but just because he is tall, he looks clumsy. Also as some people say he is good this season, they look only for goals. Because Fellaini last year was already fantastic and played 90% of the games as B2B player. You say I dont think logicaly? We need some power and technical ability, we need another Mf for rotation. Tell me who would you buy this winter that is available and not too expensive (like Moutinho)? Just cuz we need some creativity in deep midfield it doesnt mean we need small player like Moutinho or Cabaye. Both get tired once game progress, they only play for fancy moves, but are NOT hard workers like Vidal, Alonso or Fellaini. Tell me if we get Moutinho, who will defend? Mata, Hazard, Moutinho fall of imediately. If there is no hardworker in team, there will be no sucess. Power is what we need, not flair. We have Mazacar and you saw they couldnt get us through CL group cuz they hava no plan b, no stamina, power and that is FACT. We wont become barca even if Pep comes, our defence will be shit if we get too many small skillful players. I cant agree with you, sorry.

Fellaini is one of best midfielders (allround) in PL. Thats a fact, even he plays for Everton. If he wouldnt play for them, his price would be 40mio and everyone would want him here. Drogba played for Marseile, Oscar for Internacional,...you say Fella is not good cuz he plays for Everton? Well done. Then Rooney sucked to I guess as he was Everton player. Fellaini scored 8! goals and made 3 assists this year, what counts more he physicaly destroyed City, United and Arsenal. Its not all about fancy passing etc, we have enough such players. Fellaini would add something more to the team we lack big. Power and stamina. -He can run forever, Mata, Oscar get tired quickly. Fellaini almost doesnt need rest -He is not injury prone -Lot of experience in PL and he is one of best MFs in league. -Great age to add some experience yet has best years ahead. -Show lot of passion in each game, never gives up. -Can become a legend, very calm and humble player. -Hard worker, we lack them a lot. -AVAILABLE ---- Yes, Vidal, Alonso, Witsel are players I rate above Fellaini. Are they available? NO! Is Cabaye available? NO. Will we pay 40mio for Moutinho? No. Are we linked with Fernandinho? No. Tell me for better player that we have been linked with and is in range of 25mio pounds? I wonder what will you say when United or someone buys him and he will destroy us. Everton player? Noh, we dont need him, he too bad, lets go after Isco, he is so good, lets have team of weak players. Play barca style in PL. And to what point is Capoue who never played outside france makes you think he is better than Fellaini?

So you would bench Rambo and Mikel? I think Mikel Fellaini would work nice. Or play Hazard-Fellaini-Mata and Oscar-Mikel in pivot pair.

Anyone outside Ukr/Russia/Turkey... I would like to play vs Ajax actualy, they are good team. I hope we go as far possible, but please play with reserve players (Marin, Moses?, Danny, Azpi, Bertrand, Piazon, Feruz maybe, Romeu,...)

Actualy Cabaye or Moutinho are two weak for this team. Its clearly seen that we need to add some strenght to team (and height). Capoue is DM/CB and we need CM. He has no playmaking abilities. Fellaini is CM/CAM or DM and PL proven with lot of experience, a very important thing. Sure Vidal or Witsel would fit there great too, but they are not available.