BlueLyon

Had shocker today, but the rage here is unbelievable. I think Azpi-Iva-Terry-Luis should be tried, but as far as I know Mou, he will keep Cahill in starting 11 until we sign another Cb. And Cahill will sooner or later play good and this thread will jump on his bandwagon again...

I wonder if people actualy watch games or just randomly blame certain players i.e. Mikel, Oscar. I dont think Mikel is starting quality here, but he somehow always puts decent performance in important games and he did very well today. He didnt start over half year and he was still decent replacement for Matic. Cahill and Iva were reasons why we conceded, not Mikel. However I have my doubts about Mikel as holding DM. He is alot more like b2b player for me (if he was given more freedom), but for that role, he simply lacks speed. He is slow as fuck for african player in prime age. At his size, he obv cant be pacy ala Willian, but he simply lacks that energy that Toure, Pogba, Wanyama, Essien have/had. Thats why I dont particulary like Mikel. He is not mobile, not going into challenges with enough determination, but apart from that he is good player. Today he was quite brilliant in attack I must say. He had some lovely crosses, dribbles and runs. Apparently he made 3 dribbles, second best after Hazard of all 22 players. Not bad for someone who is apparently shit. His ball control in nice and he holds the ball well. Like I said, he is kinda better in attack than defence and I would love for sake of it to see him in more advanced role in some cup game. Reason why we lost game is because of Iva and Cahill, and because our attackers were fatigued and because Costa had realy shit game. Not Mikel. That said I dislike his passive defending, his slow reactions, but he is fine as backup Dm as long as others do their job too.

Sure I hope we play backups for both games, try Azpi Luis as fullbacks, Iva and Zouma as CBs (to see if they could get ahead of Cahill and to give Terry some rest). Also play Ake, Ramires, Mikel, Salah, Schurrle, Remy and Cech. Maybe even Baker to rest Oscar.

Well well stoke picking up form and will hit top just in time when we face them...

Imo Mourinho today is different than one from 2004. And we had different players back then. Old school who had more balls, more efficinecy and more energy. Now we have more flair but we cant use it we dont have proper rest. Inter or Real teams he managed played in less matches per season and he could play same team more with bit less rotation. I understand Mou wants solid back 4, but Cahill aint exactly Carvalho or Ramos while Iva aint Cole. Quality is different and you can replace Cahill or Iva and it wont be so different, but he couldnt replace Cole or Carvalho because they were different quality. I think if Luis was given longer run, it would benefit the team. But Mou is 'afraid' to try it. He doesnt like to admit mistakes and he will keep to his plan despite it might be wrong sometimes. Iva was good in start (like always) but now he doesnt score, doesnt assist, many goals come from his side (not because of his fault today,but where was he? He is out of position all the time). He keeps playing with ball, but oftenly wastes it. On other hand Azpi (who would be much better in attack on Rb if he was given freedom like Iva) isnt allowed to go forward. Then again, I think rotation was only thing that stopped us from winning against Sunderland and nufc because we were tired (look at Hazard or Cesc) and that is completely and only Mou fault.

Just rest Iva, Costa, Cahill,...anyway rotate, adjust tactics and eat some pride instead of pointing at opponents all the time... I think Mou has been in this game for long time, but forgot how to be adventurous and looks only about numbers, results etc. I have feeling he doesnt see some beautiful options he could use to function better, i.e. Luis or Remy in certain games. But thats just me, maybe despite all those world class players we have, we cant beat sunderland or nufc...they did their job, city did their job but we didnt. Simple as that. Now get back in training and improve.

No Cesc next week, Cahill is in bad form and Iva wannabe Ronaldo doesnt help us either...Mourinho better fix these problems. And why do we have Ramires, Salah, Remy, Zouma, Luis etc if Mou never rotates? In start, we rotated more and had good results. Now we didnt rotate since november. Well done Mou well done.

Why the fuck do you blame midtable teams for draws/loses? Its completely our fault. Mou didnt rotate the team for ages and he never learns from that...Azpi and Iva dont provide enough in attack, no matter how good they look. They dont offer width and consistent balls inside pen area. Whole attack was slow, no movement, teamwork whatsoever. Defense was ridiculous, both goals we conceded made our defenders like they dont know what to when they face opponent 1on1. Finaly. Costa was shit too. He got rest and should do the job, save our ass like Suarez or Aguero do. Like he did in start of season. But he didnt. Dont blame Sunderland or Newcastle for them trying to beat us. Should they just let us win? Its on us to defeat them and Mou fucked up with tactics and no rotation, while players simply lack some balls to do the job when it has to be done. Mentality is big advantage of city now and we already lost 5 points in one week, should city win against everton. We will see if we have mentality of champions or not. Because sunland and castle games have been scary similar to last season and if we dont change something, we will be in trouble against every small team away and maybe even at home.

Yet Iva stays on but Azpi being replaced by Luis...and Drogba who isnt fast enough, think remy would be better here...

23. 30 in all comps. Diego has some way to go. Though it has to be said Aguero scored 12 and 17 in following seasons (he missed half of last season and stil got 28 goals in all comps.

Mikel with a winner tomorrow.

I feel he will have world class performance that every big club will want him in january. Maybe we should call him Lord Mikel? The second son of gods after Bendtner.

I think he said that before lamps joined city...

Tibo is like 7? years younger than Neuer. Atm Neuer is better but where was he at 22? Nowehere near Courtois level. If Tibo continues to rise, he will be better than Neuer and probably any other Gk too. But thats if he improves further.

1.) Start following PL bit more 2.) Why the fuck you want liverpool to have stronger team?!

Mhm and that curved goal against United...

Wish he took more shots outside pen area, I remember he had top long shot in his first two seasons, but this year he completely abandoned trying to score from distance.

As someone said Lamps will come to our board eventualy...I somehow seriously doubt it will happen as long Mou is our manager. Sooner Lamps will get in city board after hearing how nasty paycheck he will be getting there.

Great result; now onto real test Newcastle away. Oh and thank you sunderland for doing what you do best...getting trashed...fuckers play game of their lives against us and us only...

My worry is that players will be tired but Mou will still pick strongest 11. And then they will be even more tired against Newcastle. I am bit dissapointed with (no) Mou rotation vs Sunderland.

Sorry but Samsung is world biggest infomation technology company in world. I wont go into their quality and how good/bad they are (imo they have great phones and tvs, but to each own I guess), but they are most popular company in their bussiness right now. While apple is close, sony is declining (they had to close their Vaio laptop department). Panasonic, philips etc were good, but are nowhere near samsung today. In other words, samsung is like real madrid. Every person who lives in developed countries knows samsung, asia is worlds most growing market and they all know samsung. And their products are literaly almost in every house that can afford them. Either you have or had their tv, phone, earphones, fridge etc...heck, in my country I could say every third person uses samsung phone. But I think we dont make maximum out of this partnership and their paying fee is too low. Turkish airlines will IMO sponsor us much more through tv ads etc. That said, I have nothing against ta if they become our sponsor. They might not be close to Samsung in terms of recognition, but they might present us much better in world. Samsung is realy quite terrible at that and thats because they dont need us anymore. Samsung could put our badge and name in every store they have around the world, every mall and shopping center. But they dont give fuck. TA can only put our logo in their planes and around their own airports (turkey). However TA and Cfc would benefit from each other more. But I wish we will be very adverised by them via Tv commercials, airports etc properly.

I wish Matic was more involved in attack, take more shots etc, like Yaya, but I think its impossible here because we would be too open at back then because Cesc or Oscar cant cover him as holding midfielders...unless we get someone like Pogba, that would give Matic just bit more freedom.

IMO Iva does fine, but not THAT fine that Mou couldnt even give one or two games with Azpi and Luis at back. Its all down to Mou pick, his prefering of solid defense, rather making an experiment in attacking sense. And last CL game will be perfect chance for that. Unless he will give Ake a run. That would be acceptable too.

Well he is injured all the time. If he wasnt, he would be regular sub here I guess.

First game of season where we didnt score...I generaly believe (apart of Schalke 05 game), we had much more attacking desire in first months of this season. Yes we were weaker in defense, but our attack was always goal or two better than opponent and we still won the game. I think the more season in opening, the more Mou is closing and playing safe again. Either we completely dominate the opposition or we play very carefully and we prepare way too few chances. Secondly, what the hell is Mou expecting from our fullbacks? I havent seen team that would use fullbacks less in attack than our team. Iva is exception at times, but he leaves wholes in defense then. However our general play with fullbacks in attack is weak and hasnt improved single bit since last season. And I believe its because of Mou. Why the fuck cant he play with Luis and Azpi and allow them more freedom, rather just stay back and let opponent double mark Hazard, Costa, Willian? Thirdly, rest players for fuck sake. But I know Mou wont rest them and then complain when we will start dropping points because of tiredness. Sunderland game from result point doesnt bother me. We cant win all the time. But it bothers me because of the way how we played. Marks of last season small games. No chances, no pressing in attack, no goals. No rotation, no energy. Hazard will only fill potential when he will have fullback who will also do job in attack. But good luck telling that to Mou. And lastly, I like how Mou drags pressure on him rather the team, but I hate his complaints about other team tactics etc. Its their fault if we cant score goal, but its our fault if we cant even create a chance. Im looking forward how Mou will play against city, united at SB and even next week against spurs, because rotation will be key to win title, im betting on that.