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He's someone that knows a lot about African football or matters related to it and followed by many journalists on Twitter. Can say it's a reliable source of info.

TBF, given the amount of BS transfer rumours that goes around these days, I don't blame CHOULO for doing that. He's just being skeptical. That's all. Nothing wrong with that.

Problem is, which quality defender is available out there right now? Which defender can we get that is top class and also won't cost a lot? And if anything, we probably need a new CB to partner Luiz given the average-ness of the other 3 now.

Definitely not the 1st one!

http://www.goal.com/en-sg/news/3877/england/2013/06/14/4048092/torres-set-for-crunch-talks-with-mourinho-over-chelsea?ICID=PP_1442

Funny how not too long ago that he was linked with Arsenal and their fans wanted Wenger out for Coyle.

I remember encountering a delusional Man United fan on Twitter that said Rafael is better than Azpilicueta.

Won't be long before they start to compare Iago Aspas with our players again.

This is getting hilarious. Tried to point out the fact that we didn't lose those games because of Mikel and only Mikel by looking at other factors which majorly led more to it than Mikel and you are just constantly redirecting everything to Mikel and trying to put all the blame on him when it shouldn't be. vs Manchester City Mikel may not have played well against Man City in the matches last season but did any of the other players actually performed against them? No. In all of those games, the entire team - back to front - basically got dominated and no one played well. We failed to win any of those games because the entire team didn't play, not just because of Mikel. vs Atletico Madrid Questions have to be raised at the defensive pivot but didn't know they were the only one that played against Atletico Madrid. Tell me, what were the entire team doing against Atletico whenever they attack? We basically saw a striker practically tore us into pieces especially the back 4 by himself. Was it Mikel's fault that Falcao took us to the cleaner when not 1 of the CBs or even the full backs marked him?! vs West Ham Ha! I said we completely dominated the first half and should have scored more than just the 1 goal then because we played extremely well. The whole team. But in the 2nd half, we completely capitulated because of Diame. Did anyone even know how to deal with him? No. We lost the game because we didn't deal with Diame and failed to defend properly. vs Southampton Of course the less said about the DM better, none of the goals we conceded were Mikel's fault! We ended up losing the game because of a direct free kick goal and Benitez playing a weaken lineup for the match. Furthermore, you previously said this: If that's the case, shouldn't the same be applied on football games are also lost by the 11 players on the pitch? Why put all the blame on Mikel then? I get it you don't rate Mikel at all but what you have basically been doing here is just proving my point right from the start. You are just being selective in what you want to read and say by using stats at face value to justify why the supposed ineffectiveness of Mikel. You are trying to pin all the blame on him by pointing out the difference in winning more games and losing less with and without Mikel when winning more and losing less of those matches have hardly gotta do with him alone. There are other factors involved as well that determine it but it has been conveniently disregarded. Oh the irony.

Talk about taking everything on the Internet so seriously. What's the matter? Can't take a bit of trolling??

May not be too enthused with Azpi and Ivanovic? Not enthused for what reasons?! If we are gonna get Walker, we might as well just bring back Bosingwa...

All hail @Stingray for the trolling with his abuse use of memes and gifs.

Earlier today...

They are just taking precaution if anything, in case if the club and player can't agree to anything on the contract etc. Don't want to be jumping the gun.

The point here is that bleedsblue threw out that comparison stats to highlight the supposed uselessness of Mikel when he plays and doesn't play without context. He tried to make it sound as if Mikel was a major factor in those difference when it isn't at all and there were other factors dictating them. Hence, why I brought up those factors which partly includes the team's performances that led to those defeats. Mikel didn't play well yes but to mainly him as an excuse for the difference in those winning percentages is nonsense.

Pardon me for my blurness but think I've got lost here. The club has announced on the site that we have agreed a deal with Leverkusen for Schurrle, only subject to agreeing personal terms, medical etc. They are slow yes but it has happened in the past with others as well.

They do announce when a fee/deal has been agreed with another club.

Performance awful yes but was Mikel the only one that played poorly? No. The whole team did and that's why we lost those games. Mikel playing didn't just magically caused us to lose when other factors led to it as well. Not much better? Ha. At least I'm not just tossing some stats or facts forward and just look at the surface without even bother to look further into the issue...

That's because he still hasn't agreed personal terms, complete the medical etc with us yet. Took awhile for Hazard to change his when he joined us.

Am I the only that just wants to punch that face of his?!!

You just don't get it, do you? At least when others voice their views on why they rate or don't rate Mikel, they look into factors. They analyze his performances, character, style of play, team play, strengths, weaknesses and all that. But here, you are being incredibly myopic in your view on Mikel that you are just comparing our winning percentages with and without Mikel. You are being selective by just choosing and looking at stats on its surface to pass a definite judgment on a play without even bother exploring further into those why stats are like that. The numbers will tell us we have lost more games this past season with Mikel starting compared to when he isn't. However, look at some of those losses we suffered when he played: vs Man City (in Community Shield) - Leading 1-0 at HT but Ivanovic got sent off and we just got pummelled in the 2nd half. vs Atletico Madrid - Abysmal performance all around. No spark in attack and absolutely atrocious defensively vs Man United (in PL at SB) - Conceded 2 goals that got nothing to do with Mikel. Fought back to make it 2-2 but then lost the game because of 2 RCs & to an offside goal vs West Ham (A) - Completely bossed the first half but only led 1-0 at HT when it should have been more. Whole team just switched in the 2nd half and no one, NO ONE stood up to Diame who just ran the game vs Southampton(A) - Lost the game because we didn't play well at all AND Benitez fielded a 2nd string side vs Man City (in FA Cup) - Whole team played like rubbish before deciding to turn up only when we are 2-0 down Are any of those defeats Mikel's fault? No. Those losses there came as a result because the team just didn't turn up or decided to capitulate for whatever reason. Has nothing to do whatsoever with Mikel playing or not. And then, when you look at the stats that said we won more and lost fewer games without Mikel, you didn't even bother consider the fact that he missed out about 20 of those 37 games due to his involvement in the AFCON and his hip injury at the end of last season. You just conveniently decide to use it as it is to suit your agenda. Moreover, a fair bit of those wins without Mikel came in last 10 games or so when a major factor of it happened because the players pulled together and was focussed on achieving our target then and also because Benitez's rant after the Boro game eventually led to less negative chants/pressure from the fans, thus allowing the players to express themselves and supporting them. I am not sure how pathetic can a person be to use such poor reasons like this to argue the ineffectiveness of Mikel.

I'm sorry but that is just really :lol: .