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Fernando

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  1. Well based on your charts they had it and they are the only culture from that time that is still alive today. All other cultures from that time are extinct. Assimilated into modern culture. That being said it was funded with the help of the USA and UN after WW2 when Hitler decided that the final solution was to exterminate the Jews. An insane thing when the Jews where not even a nation, how a powerful dictator decided that the jews extermination was the solution..... And Yes I would tell you that is spiritual influence but you wouldn't believe that. So for the non religious view then there's no other reason to explain the madness of Hitler in taking it out against the Jews other then he was crazy.... But yeah that was the context of modern Israel being founded.
  2. How so? When it was the UN that approved this. But if not, just like everything else let's also blame USA for all the woeful decisions of the past two centuries. Do you even bother to ask why? Why USA and the UN allow Israel to become a nation? Especially after being dispersed for nearly 2,000 years....something amazing, miraculous if you might see it that way as no such thing ever happen in the history of mankind. People when they get expelled from their land their culture goes extinct because of assimilation. Never happen with the Jews, quite remarkable. It's called archeology my friend. If you want to negate that, then that's all together something else.
  3. I think they will buy Liverpool since with us Todd and company can't sell for a few more years.
  4. They will do it eventually, but it will not resolved anything. The desire for revenge and hatred of the Jew will always be there. How do you explain a Nazi leader decided that the final solution was to get rid of Jews? There is a fascination with blaming everything under the sun on the Jews. So yes you will get the two state solution but it will never get rid of the problem.
  5. So basically, if they "end the genocide" the bloodshed will never end, because of the revenge attack you mentioned and then we go back to the same loop. This is a never ending cycle, hence long lasting peace will never be achievable. Because you can try to make a two state solution or even one state solution, but as you just alluded revenge will always be there. This reminds me of the TV series that air many years ago, Battlestar Galactica. A cycle of never ending bloodshed. Humanity is broken, and unless a divine power intervenes we will never solve this cycle of bloodshed.
  6. Third Arab-Israeli war. Like I been saying for a while, many of these arabs country hate Israel and want them to be drowned into the sea. Israel has defended themselves and because of that won land. First Arab war again these are always the Arab countries that want to destroy Israel. Yes this I don't agree with, land grab because they want it. What I do agree if is these countries attack them and they go an attack them and decided to get the land then yes, because it's war. Now the conspiracy will say, Israel provoke these wars so they can have a legitime reason to attack and get the war. Well that is something else, and it's all conspiracy like the 911 conspiracy. In the end my point still stand, other then certifying 100% that this conspiracy is true Israel is just defending themselves. They got their land after multiple wars with Arab nations and the world is not happy about that.
  7. So in the end it's okay for terrorist organization to do what they do and Israel not be able to defend themselves? And like I said Israel got that land after a war that they where provoked. So I don't share the same point view as you with Illegal, and all that stuff.
  8. This is different then Israel being attack. One went ahead because they wanted like Russia did with Crimea. And this one Israel was provoked first. So total contrary. Those countries came and attack Israel first, they lost. I'm mentioning now and been following on the sides as people here don't care about it. It's irrelevant for them.... First the casualties are always the bad part of a war. And no country that retaliate will do good, look at USA when we went to war. So that's clear, now the question is WHY? Why Israel did that? Whey they bombed Syria? Because they felt like or because they was provoked. I keep going back to this same, who provoked first what? Israel is leaving peacefully in their country and they get rockets send over from those places. So anyone in their right mind will attack. This is something that gets lost and no mention because again is much easier to blame Israel for everything. And not going to comment on the Torah, you guys taking things out of context.
  9. ? who is grabbing what? Are those lands that they won after they went to war? And they even have giving some back because of International pressure when they shouldn't have done that since they won those wars. So based on this for you it's okay to have terrorist cells that want to wipe out Israel and constantly sending rocket to them? And again Israel invaded? That is the narrative you want to bring, but I keep saying they where attack always. When they first became a nation, and the following wars the follow. They won the war and rightfully won those lands. But the last part I will not debate, yes Israel has done a lot of bad and can't defend that. The good thing is like in many western democracy when this over they will be held accountable. This is opposed to the Iran regime that do countless atrocities and no accountability. But yes it's much easier to hate Israel and the Jews because that is the narrative then go after Iran that destabilize the middle east with all the terrorist cells. Hypocrisy is what I call that. Hypocrisy at is best. Where do we see you and the rest of the protester protest about other regions where crazy stuff is happening. Anyone care to protest about what has been happening in Sudan? No, because it is no concern.
  10. And do you even bother to ask why? Why does it lead to that? Is it because terrorism is coming from those regions? Surely people want to live in peace but if you terrorist organization bombing you frequently you will do something eventually. What you mean by occupied people? How far you go back as to "occupied" because if we go by archeologist finding, that land belongs to Israel. So what date are you using to say "occupy" An international community are bunch of hypocrites. They blast more Israel then they do the terrorist country like Iran that is producing all these cells.
  11. Adventures? I get that Israel in war is doing some atrociousness, but it's not because they freely wanted. These places they attack is because they have been receiving rockets thrown at them. Any country that received rocket from another country will go and attack them. In these instances is being run by terrorist organization.
  12. But if this is true, why has Obama not run for presidency? If it's true that you need to sit 4 years break before running again? I don't know where that info came from, but I wanted to check to see if you guys where aware of this supposedly "loop"
  13. Guy has fallen out of rhythm lately as he is doing a Ronaldinho. Partying and forgetting about the futbol. Such a shame.
  14. I have a question if anyone can answer. I heard this from someone but I just don't believe it. It does not make senses to me. He said that if Trump wins he can do another term after because he took a 4 year break after his first presidency. That they can't do 2 terms consecutive but that if you took a break like Trump did after his presidency, in theory if he get elected he can run again for another term. Example he did his 4 years, took a break for 4 years now running for presidency and if he wins it will be his second term after a break. so 4 years plus 4 year break, plus a second term of 4 year. This person says that he would in theory run for a third term.....so 4 years plus 4 year break, plus a second term of 4 year and a potential third term of 4 years because of the break? I don't believe this guy that mentioned this but I want to confirm because of the 4 year break he had, thus no consecutive terms.
  15. We need to have more options then just two. That is always been the issue. We have two poor runners and for many people they are not sure who to pick. So I would love that change. Yes you have the primary but many people don't vote on those like in the general elections. As well would love to have the electoral vote to change a bit. Because the big city has too much power over the rest of the state. Take example here in NYC the majority will rule over the entire NY state. Maybe have the big city have their own electoral y vote and the rest of the the state it's own but yet smaller electoral vote. So that the population that is living in the state vs the city get a voice.
  16. But the thing is in many believes they have that Israel is the enemy, like you have Iran who backs a lot of these terrorist organization that want Israel wipe out. So besides the make it work as one nation you will have to deal with nations like Iran that are constantly giving money to terrorist organization all over the middle east to destroy Israel.
  17. That would be awesome if it where to work.
  18. Yes but those was after a war. Many nations wanted to destroy Israel so they have a right to defend themselves. In those wars the one that wanted to destroyed them lost and because of that lost land. That is what happened in war, if you lose you will lose land. If you want to defend land then go to Peru and defend the land they took from Ecuador. Go to Mexico and defend the land they lost to USA. Etc etc. But no, somewhere else no one cares but because it's Israel then people jump at any little thing.
  19. I'm not sure about that. That is just pure speculation.
  20. Yes war is two armies, but this is similar to usa war on terror. Again I still say if Hamas cared for their people they would have ended this long ago. That's what I would do If I was in power and I see my people getting butcher.
  21. War is ugly but how do you stop it? Surely Israel ain't going to stop until they get their objective. I'm actually surprise that Hamas don't do a deal with Israel. Surely if they cared for their people they would have long giving over the captives they have and try to surrender.
  22. I'm happy for him, I think this would help England win finally for once in a long time.
  23. But the point is still standing. People are against the rw policy and protesting but don't do it for the violation of women in Muslim countries. US and Israel are where gays and women have more freedom then if they live in Gaza and Muslim countries.
  24. Yup that is what I'm saying. Like they fight for abortion and the LGBT community because they care for their body and rights so they take it out against USA and Israel but don't defend the rights of women and gay in Muslim countries..... I always thought that was backwards but then again it's the media and info that people are getting that just blame everything under the sun for USA and Israel. But here's a pinch for your thoughts, if usa and Israel get wiped out then your left with Islamic nations taking the world and then women will have less freedom than they are used to and LGBT will be outright ban. As I always said Israel ain't no saint as neither USA. And in war ugly things will happen. I remember our war on terror in Afghanistan and Iraq, we did so many wrong stuff and in the end we left and quickly it went into the chaos those regions....but LGBT choosing the side of Hamas when they don't understand what they will do then is just weird. Sounds a lot like propaganda what is being brainwashed to many young people today.
  25. But I want to ask a question. Okay your against the rw policy, but how can the group that you identity with support Hamas? I see them marching in the parade with Hamas stuff when they are the one that kill gays. Can people from the LGBT community live freely in Gaza (well not right now because of the war) or Saudia Arabia ? Iran? And other Muslim countries? As opposed to telaviv in Israel? USA in general? Like if for equality I think we should see more fight for other countries that have less freedom then Israel and USA.
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