Thor

I keep telling people it is a time and continuity thing - as well as having the right tactical setup. I'm so sick of hearing "if we just had this one player he'd transform us"... Been said about Enzo, Caceido, Nkunku now that he is injured, etc. We are talented enough. Caceido is better than Rice. Jackson is as good if not better than Toney. We are fine in terms of talent. It isn't an experience thing either. We have UCL winners on the field all over. World Cup winners. Mudryk has even played in big games in UCL. We are fine. The guys need time to gel, but Poch also needs to play players in their right positions. This playing people out of position shit cost Pep titles and massive games. Coming into a team that was struggling to string together good games and trying to get clever was going to garner even worse results. Keep it simple. 4 atb, get Silva out, play Mudryk on the left, Sterling on the right. Let them play and make mistakes. We don't need to be crutched by a shit setup and chase games.

I know a lot of people will point to mistakes so far, as these are amplified in losses, but I've been impressed. When he gets the ball and turns, he makes things happen for us and makes us look dangerous. Looks like he is still playing in to his best form, but he has pleasantly surprised me with how good he is on the ball and also whipping passes around.

No we aren't. This board has constantly said about any player they set their eyes on "once we get him, it'll transform our whole team and we'll be completely different". Y'all need to get out of this mindset. These players are good enough. These players are the ones that were transforming games for teams in massive games. It is a gelling and formation/tactics problem. Poch setting up too conservatively and making us chase, and some wrong selections. These players need time and confidence to build. Mudryk and Maduake should be playing more - Chilly shouldn't be at LW - Silva should be on the bench - we should be playing with 3 in midfield, etc. You're not going to tell me this team is worse talent and skill wise than some of the teams we've had over the last 10 years. And we were still finishing top 4 with those. People act like Costa was some surefire superstar when we bought him. He had one season scoring more than 10 goals in La Liga before coming to Chelsea. One. The one we bought him after. Willian was a stud that we yearn for again? His highest scoring season with us was his last one at Chelsea - and we were glad to see the back of him after that according to a lot on here. Look at our starting lineup for the 2021 CL final and I dare you to tell me it is far and away more talented than what we have now. Hint - it isn't. These players need continuity. Poch needs to let players play in their correct positions and let the young prospects play some. Not come on chasing the game.

Agreed. They are. One is playing LW, and our most dynamic CB is playing at LB.

Misses like that happen. We're chasing the game because we've got pressure to do so because we've been setup incorrectly for the first 60 minutes of the match, and the players are chasing the match after that. These players didn't become bad overnight. It is a tactics and flow situation. Let your players build into games. The reality is, Jackson and Sterling were very much isolated the first 60 minutes. We looked better when Jackson was dropping into midfield for passes, turning and creating by running at players, because Conor was on there doing jack shit - again - not because he is bad - but because he doesn't fit where he is being played. I'm not going to ask John Terry to go sit in the middle of the pitch and try and whip passes around like Enzo - because it wouldn't work. Having tried that for 60 minutes, finally taking him off, putting on Lampard - and expecting the lads to win the match in 30 mins isn't as likely to happen either. Offensive players need rhythm. Chilly ain't doing more than Mudryk or Maduake out there from an attacking perspective, so don't play him there.

I'm not a tactician to the level of Jose, Poch or Pep, but I was probably one of the first on here mentioning Silva is a bit of a crutch on our team. He really slows the pace of the game down for us - and doesn't let our team do what they were designed to do. I'll keep saying it, but it reminds me of Ibra at Man United. Great individually in a bubble still, but it negates what we are trying to do. The worst thing about it is, I noticed Colwill slowing the game down a bit in the last match too. Hopefully once Silva is benched they get a sense of urgency back. Push the ball. We're a young and dynamic team.

Never pick up again? He is 2 games in... 21 years old. Where do people come up with this?

I know a lot will point out the miss and confidence, but I'm not really worried about it. He seems resilient. He is dropping deep into the midfield at times because we lack creativity due to Poch's tactics. To be fair, he was one of our best players last night aside from the blunder.

21st of Oct to the 7th of Dec schedule... Arsenal, Brentford, Spurs, City, Newcastle, Brighton and Man United... Poch better figure it out lol...

No we wouldn't. We'd be saying what is wrong with Haaland. He is too young. We have overspent again. We haven't just made 10 mistakes buying all these players. We haven't. These players were great before they came here. It is a confidence and inexperience issue. Not just that a tactical disaster. Silva needs to be an option off the bench. He sets a tone as a leader, and he really does slow us down a lot. Chilly needs to never play LW again. Conor should never play that role again. We're trying to make shit fit that doesn't.

All throughout last season it was constantly "once we get this guy, we'll be back amongst the top". Same thing is happening now that we've had a few injuries. I'm sorry - but winning games against bottom of the ladder teams being dependent on Nkunku playing or not is not the signs of a top team. We have the talent. We do. People think these players are suddenly shit or not good enough... No. We suffer from a lethargy/confidence issue. That will take time. It isn't about "just one more player".

Silva has been a lethargy on the teams intensity. He really sets the tempo with his play, but most aren't commenting on it. I'm starting to see it more and more on twitter - which leads me to believe I'm not crazy. Our team plays slow, and a large part of it is Silva. It isn't all him, but I see it a lot as far as building from the back. This team is young, and wants to run. Just like Ibra crutched Man United, despite being individually good, he is slowing us down as a team.

I'd rather it be Silva. I actually think he slows down our play a lot. I've said it before, individually defending - great. Kinda like the Ibra situation at Man United. He scored, and individually still decent, but doesn't fit the team.

Poch is entirely to blame for these types of losses. Just packs it in for a half, puts immense pressure on the players to make it happen in 15-30 minutes, and at the same time makes them play with a crutch by having players all out of position and not set up for attacking. Bell end. 4 at the back dipshit. It ain't hard.

We're very lucky at the absolute lack of comp there is from 3 teams that we won't get relegated. Any other year...

I can't believe I'm flying all the way over from Australia and have bought 2 tickets for 500 pound each to watch Arsenal vs us... Don't even want to go with this dross.

Yep.

Why not just start with the attacking team we have out there? Have had them pinned back the whole time.

lol NJ. Just had to have that happen on a day like today.

Holy shit... he is taking off the two players who shouldn't have even been on after the half. Well done Poch.

Yates should have 2 reds by now.

Ange has Tottenham playing beautiful football...

If Noni and Palmer don't come on in the next 10 minutes he should get sacked. Not even joking.

Trying to fit square pegs into round holes is getting frustrating. Poch knows a shit tonne more football than myself and anyone else here. Why he doesn't just change it, because he can surely see it, is a mystery to me.

Of course he blows it before we get to take it. Absolute bellend ref.