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Justin_3d

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  1. Fergie: Paying €45m for Lucas is crazy http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1131171/sir-alex-ferguson:-psg-paying-%E2%82%AC40m-for-lucas-moura-is-mad?cc=5901 -------------- So when SAF wanted to pay like 30 something, it wasn't crazy?
  2. That is what I always believed. But the doomsday fanatic over there thinks its the end of us all just cause City won one league tittle.....
  3. Well done Chelsea. I was getting a bit afraid with Maicon, but it shows you guys are doing great business in bringing in a younger squad. Just like every young player we bought, I don't expect them to hit the ground running this season. I mean look at Ramires, took him almost a season to get his feet right.
  4. Are United wasting everybody’s time? By: ED The news that Lucas Moura had "chosen" Paris Saint-Germainover Manchester United was greeted with derision in some quarters. The derision was a two-way street, with the usual anti-United brigade gloating at their hated enemy's inability to compete in the transfer market with the likes of PSG, Manchester City and even Chelsea. "Where's your history now?" they gloated, mocking United's belief that — like Barcelona and Real Madrid — players want to join them, and will do so even if there's a bigger pay packet on offer elsewhere. Then there were the United sympathisers lining up to stick the knife into the player and his agent for following the money at the expense of his development as a footballer, suggesting the young Brazilian to be the kind of individual who will soon be angling for his next windfall. While the professionally partisan usually offer little in the way of incisive analysis, both sets of trolls make good points. In the case of the Lucas-baiters, we have to remember that — Champions League qualification aside — PSG are a big fish in a medium-sized pond. The French league is well organised, financially stable and genuinely competitive, but it is a clear step below the Premier League. That is not Anglophile bias, parochial ignorance or cultural snobbery but simple fact: players want to play in England because they can earn more, which in turn attracts a higher level of player and creates a stronger league, regardless of who owns the club. It's a neat reverse of their respective rugby systems - the Top 14 does not have a salary cap and, while less stable than the Premiership, is a more attractive proposition and thus has the better players and the stronger clubs. Lucas's insistence that he prefers Paris to Manchester (who doesn't?) barely washes when you consider who he would be working for, the stage he would be performing on and the benefits he would gain from joining. Ask any French player and they will take a wet Tuesday at Stoke over a mild Friday at Bordeaux, despite the clear gastronomic and cultural benefits of the latter. But did Lucas really have any say in the matter? We can be certain that PSG did offer him a tidy wage packet. But they would have to, not just to entice him to an inferior league, but because - for all its social benefits - Paris is twice as expensive as Manchester. But by all accounts the major stumbling block was the transfer fee between the two clubs. Sir Alex Ferguson complained that Sao Paulo demanded 45 million euros for the youngster, which does seem a lot for a 19-year-old who has only played in the notoriously flaky Brazilian league, whose goals (14) and assists (10) to game (54) ratio does not set the pulse racing to the extent that, say, Neymar's does. ED agrees with Sir Alex on this, but ED - and its mechanical buddy Eurobot - have been saying this all summer. Were United really ever going to spend close to £35m on a player with no pedigree in a top league, with no guarantee of a return on that investment? A very similar player, Robinho, had pedigree in La Liga but - as is often the way with South American players - was a flop in Manchester. Why risk that again? Which begs the question, what on earth were United doing pursuing the player in the first place? Once a player is established an established star with one of the bigger clubs in Brazil's Campeonato, you will simply not get him on the cheap as you may have done in 2009. You won't even get him for a reasonable price: Brazil's economy is and has been booming for the past 10-15 years, with annual growth rates of around five percent comparable only to those of small Balkan nations emerging from states of semi-anarchy. Indeed, with the 2014 World Cup looming and Brazilian clubs seeking to consolidate their continental power by retaining their best players, the domestic transfer market is comparable to that other inflated bull-market - England's Premier League. And throw in the shyster agents and third-party ownership schemes prevalent in South America, you simply won't find value in Brazil any more, the kind of value that Fergie and the Glazers trumpet so loudly when, for example, preferring Shinji Kagawa to Eden Hazard. ED is not saying that this doesn't make perfect business sense: it does, and anyone who shares ED's serious-but-manageable Football Manager addiction will agree that the value is in well-priced youngsters (Nick Powell) and contract rebels (Kagawa). The pursuit of Lucas Moura had a touch of the Real Madrid about it, with that shade of bravado and conviction that the player's price could be driven down by sheer weight of the club's draw. But as even Real and Barca will now testify, the entrance of PSG and Manchester City into the upper tier of the transfer market has blown those conceits out of the water, with Spain's big-hitters somewhat more cautious in their dealings. So what was the point of the Moura pursuit? Was it bravado, posturing? If it was, it could hardly send a worse message to the likes of Robin van Persie, who is understood to be concerned about United's relative ambition. Perhaps it was a calculated distraction, a red herring to sent journalists, agents and fans while the Van Persie deal was constructed. Maybe not. Either way, it was a waste of everybody's time.
  5. How is the PL going to remain a power house if City is suppose to dominate everything in it's path?
  6. Good thread. I wanted to see a thread for this team or the french league, since this is going to be an interesting time. They got Carlo as coach, some good players and Chelsea ex player like Alex, overall a very intriguing team. New money coming in to new teams makes it exciting, then instead of watching the same old boring teams dominate every time!
  7. Is there a need to open a thread for this?
  8. I think we should go for Llorente. It will be a very wise signature to fulfill the squad. Most of us wanted Hulk, but could not get. And instead with that money we can get Moses, Azpi, and potentially Llorente. Plus Llorente having work with Bielsa style of game, he would understand what we are trying to implement here while at the same time giving us an alternative for his height! So Chelsea, you have my blessings!
  9. I blasted you in the past for leaving out Ramires. Now you finnally wise up! So good work. Although defense could change depend on people's need/wants. Like Cahill, Bertand and potentially if Azpi comes in. But other then that the midfield and forwards looks great.....well only if Romeu is with Chelsea after two seasons. Cause right now is very risky counting him for long term plans, till he proves he wants to be here and not back to Barcelona. P.S. Your formation....I think that's the 4-1-4-1 RDM was trying to work in the pre season. Just that Oscar and Ramires will be central and Ramires and Oscar can drop a bit lower if they want, while Mata, Hazard and Torres are more forward attackers.
  10. The Guardian sucks now! They reported that Hulk was already signed for Chelsea.....
  11. BTW can Cesar change/shorten his last name like a lot of player do these days to something much easier to pronounce? Azpi sounds great!
  12. Another very good buy. Much better then Maicon, and Debuchy. The boy has potential, so giving that he is young he will need one season to adjust and that is why we got Ivan to overshadow him till Cesar is ready in the coming seasons, along with Sam....if he stays healthy in his comeback!
  13. It's an ok buy. Especially giving that he is homegrown. So since we are looking for someone to fit Kalou shoes, then better him.
  14. I don't think so. City fault lies in Mancini mediocrity. With PSG and Carlo, they might do alright. Not win the CL straight of the bat, but they will be a much tougher team then City where last season!
  15. Oh good, I thought you where another TX doomsday fanatic!
  16. What has PSG done to you to dislike them? Is it another "TX theory" of they are going to denominate for ages to come in Europe?
  17. And Inter had a better deal when they just bought Oscar for like 6-7 euros recently from Sau Paulo and then sold him to us for a whopping big profit.....
  18. My sexy style of writing is in that first page! :blue scalf:
  19. http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/9617-wallace/page__hl__wallace__fromsearch__1
  20. Nothing new....and if I am not mistaken a thread of him should exist somewhere, when the Deco deal was done!
  21. Agreed, but just because of that you shouldn't be a hypocrite and have a double standard!
  22. Yeah two of the biggest managers in the world are the biggest hypocrites. SAF and Mourinho. The only thing is that people here are so double standard, that they look past Mourinho hypocrisy and just point towards SAF hypocrisy..... I bet you that if Mourinho was never a Chelsea manager, a lot of people here would be calling him a cunt and hate him like they hate Barcelona.....
  23. What a dumb excuse! And so with that stupid mentality, I would say the commonwealth pales in comparison to that of a Chinese.....
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