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Heres hoping but again, going back to the front 3 from last season, they aren’t doing much this time around so I still think we may see some frustration and mixed results/1-0s again. If we can find a front 3 without Rom and Timo and it works, I hope to god he keeps it.

It doesn’t matter if its the point or not. He could have thrown on Pulisic, Havertz, Werner or Gary Goals with 20-25 minutes to go and 95% chance they wouldn’t of came up with a winning goal. We were that poor in the final third and our attackers are that inconsistent. They don’t do enough and 2 of the 3 players I named there definitely aren’t good enough to play here. Sick of mentioning them, they shouldn’t be Chelsea players based on the last 18 months or so. And on the systems people were complaining end of last season for a back 4, then again in pre-season clamouring for a back 4. Then when the games started going iffy before the turn of the year people wanted us to use a back 4. Now we use a back 4 and people complain about using a back 4…. It is not rocket science to see this team is much better suited a 343.

Honking. Him, Werner, Ziyech, Pulisic all gone in the summer please. If we truly have aspiration’s to being a top top team for longer than 8 months they have to go.

He could have started Werner wherever from minute 1, we all know he would of done fuck all. He is hopeless. As is Ziyech. All the attacking players we have signed in the past 3 seasons have been pretty much useless. I sincerely hope that if we are serious about becoming a title winning team, or closing the gap to City even more, that we sell both (maybe Pulisic as well) and just play Lukaku against FA cup minnows to he can be sold because he is also shocking.

Think we can all thoroughly agree his wee spell earlier on in the season was a purple patch. £150k a years for 5 years. Wow

He is awful. One of the few who have to go this summer because theres no chance we let him go this month. Although didn’t expect him to do anything in 12 minutes. Well don’t expect him to do anything in 90 odd minutes normally. Also Lukaku is honking - just hope that Belgian guy doesn’t pop up with a 28000 word reply about how he isn’t confident.

Werner 🤝 fucking up a simple pass he just had to roll into his team mate‘s feet Ah well lets just hope that little cunt Maupey doesnt score a winner for them 😂

Exactly. But was apparently ripping us apart on the right…. I think he made one proper run from deep where he genuinely got away from anybody and into space. But fluffed the cross. The only good opportunity he had made from a Rudi and Alonso mix up where Rudi heads it out to him from a cross coming off the left. They made more opportunities/got into better positions from the left hand side with Cucurella.

I dont think we should use it a lot really. Barring the first leg v Spurs where we used a back 3 and 4 of hybrid depending on when we had the ball it hasn’t really worked at all.

Theres a reason we play a back 3 with Tuchel and have been largely successful with it. Simply, right now, I dont think this defence is good enough to play a back 4 in the way we want to play but apparently its “too defensive” according to some folk on here…..

Aye just noticed was Webster. Still, shocking to give someone a free header like that.

Who is picking up Duffy there? Honestly? Piss poor.

I don’t know what you expect though, Alonso and/or Azpilicueta are pushing up high when we have the ball (as usual, same happens with Reece and Chilly) and its giving us passing options on the sides/the opportunity to switch the play and utilise the overload they’ve created. Do we just have them sit in all game because Lamptey has had 2 or 3 runs down the right side? The 2 wingbacks today lack some athleticism but lets not pretend that this being countered on the wings by teams is necessarily something new or something that doesn’t happen. I think the commentator on the stream I am watching said he had 7 touches so far after the pass/shit run situation involving Ziyech. So he’s maybe at around 10 if that.

Aye but Lamptey hasn’t really affected the game at all though has he? I mean your making out as if he’s prime Cafu when he’s much more like the Theo Walcott of wingbacks. Basically needing lots of space to run into and then 99/100 times shits himself when he gets to the final third, delivering subpar crosses every time. (Watch now he will likely assist their equaliser or something) On the game itself, since the goal we’ve played better in the first two thirds of the field but the attack is disjointed and not making any sort of real impact. CHO spurned the only other half decent chance we had when he maybe could have tried putting it to Mason in and around the penalty spot.

Must win. That team is more than good enough too.

Maybe he can come in and play RWB or LWB 😂

No thanks. His move to Madrid is proof that the grass isn’t always greener and ultimately, he is finished IMO. Honestly think for the fee he cost and wages he’s on, he will struggle to get a top club move. I mean Coutinho is a reference for this sort of thing also although he somehow got a move to Bayern for 6 months and eventually only got out of Barca to go to Villa with a chance of a permanent move.

He may of done that but that seasons not that good when you break it down and look at where the goals came from. He only scored 8 league goals that season and the other 14 goals were in cup competitions (CL & Europa League 9, Community Shield 1, FA Cup 1, Club World Cup 1, League Cup 2). Even in the near 4700 minutes he played that season at club level, 22 goals equals a goal every 215 minutes roughly so a goal just a bit less than every 2 and a half games. He wasn’t bought to assist goals either so not even concerned about those, thats what Hazard, Oscar, Mata were all signed for, to build around the donkey that someone thought was a racehorse. Its not that impressive when you consider Costa scored 20 PL goals alone in his 1st season, 12 the 2nd season (and he was pretty shite alongside everyone else for the first half of the season), and 20 again in the 3rd. Even Morata scored more PL goals in 1 season for us than Torres ever manager, getting 11 the first year. Torres never ever scored double figure PL goals since 2009-10 season. He is still easily in the top 2/3 worst signings in the clubs history. Without a doubt. We honestly tried to build teams around the guy when he was finished. Even Carragher, his ex team mate said it, he couldn’t believe we paid 50m for him.

I think Bogarde and Torres both are still by far the worst transfers we’ve ever done off the top of my head. Both for different reasons too. I suppose Nando gets a little credit for that goal that made Gary Neville spunk his drawers on live TV v Barca at the Nou Camp and the one in the Europa League final v Benfica but other than that, he is by far the worst footballer I think I’ve ever seen play so regularly at any top club based on the majority of the first 18 months or 2 years he was here. Ok he still wasn’t good after that but those first 2 years he had, he was pish. Like everything he did - didn’t work bar the odd 10-15 minutes of looking like a reasonable level professional in a match every 4 months. Then well Bogarde though, £40k a week, for 4 seasons in which he played maybe 10 times. We all know that story too well. I think topping those 2 will be hard done, even considering everything re Lukaku. Even considering then the likes of Drinkwater, Bakayoko, etc. they would still struggle.

Not to defend Lukaku here but I do think you tend to see that sort of intensity in pre match drills much more often because usually throughout the week (granted there are no mid week games), the majority of teams will train at a pretty high intensity, then come the game day those sort of drills and exercises are just a warm up and to get a touch of the ball before kick off.

Even if that’s how your argument is based, there are still plenty of players we signed who are easily much much worse signings than Lukaku. Morata not working out was a bit gut wrenching after getting rid of Costa (although his career panned out badly after leaving here), AM looked like he potentially could have had everything you would want in a top modern day CF but turns out he was really only good at scoring with his head and he lacked any sort of personality and top player mentality .

Worst Chelsea signing ever? Hmm. A very bad fit yes but worst ever? I think if you look into it hard enough you’ll realise we have signed much much worse. We’ve not had much luck with CFs though now Lukaku looks a bad fit, Morata was a bad fit, Shevchenko was a bad fit….

He would be daft to go to Newcastle. Absolutely insane. I mean honestly imagine Hazard being coached by Eddie Howe and trying to play little cute 1-2’s with Chris Wood. It would be ridiculous. Plus he’d end up playing in the championship next year. I think a return to Lille at some point may be his best course of action because he is nowhere near the standsrd for Madrid or us.

And play him ahead of who? Have you seen Kovacic play the last few games no? He has very very good since the Liverpool game. Yesterday he wasn’t quite as good but that can happen against a team like City. Then Kante when he’s even at 75% in these sort of games, is essential.

No offence but someone has to say it, what an absolute crock of shite. ‘That line up is the line up of a manager who wants to get fired?’ Jesus Christ. Look at the injuries we’ve got, Andreas was also missing through COVID so Sarr had to play and then look at the inconsistencies/underperforming players in attack we have. The team was basically as strong as it could of been whatever way you look at it. You’d think he put the under 23s out going off your reaction/comment.