OneMoSalah

What I dont get as well is people expected us to drop points at City, then we won. So dropping points at Arsenal despite the frustration realistically is the points people expected us to drop at City. We win the next 2 league games it will all be good.

Wouldn't panic yet. Both teams may have nothing to play for but not as if anything definitive was decided tonight. Plus I would say Leiceste have a bigger chance of missing out than us if we beat them next week.

Wasnt there talk of Tuchel wanting him at PSG? I certainly hope not as he has been awful ever since we signed him and giving him a life line would be a mistake. Sell at all costs. Even for 5m. Just sell him.

I love the lack of trust in Kepa despite him having done nothing wrong under Tuchel this season 😂 same people who were probably slaughtering him for Jorginho’s pass yesterday... I would start Mendy though for sure but if Kepa starts, he starts. Would imagine it would be likely anyway as he’s the cup GK. Although then I don’t know why he didnt start Mendy v Arsenal.

And even then for the goal, he could of just hooked it up the line beforehand if there were no viable options on for him. Rudiger does this alot if nothing is on and its better than passing to someone who is 1 or 2 yards away from someone at times because it gets the team 10-20 yards up the pitch to press. Its not just the technical side of it, its analysing whats around and seeing that Jorginho was also instantly going to be under immediate pressure upon receiving the pass. Doesnt take away from Jorginho’s awful pass but also shows Zouma’s lack/limited intelligence as a footballer in a side that plays this way. Even then Gilmour and Chilwell were open before and if push comes to shove then so was Kepa. Playing square passes across your defence under pressure is dangerous.

His poor choice on the ball last night also leads to the goal happening, had 2 options, Chilwell and Gilmour, ultimately he shat the bed and picked neither as it required him using his left foot. And then Jorginho also does a stinker of a pass too but a more comfortable player on the ball ie Rudi plays to Chilwell or Mount. Like Zouma didn’t.

Have to disagree. He probably was never good enough to be a regular here. Harsh but really he had what one good standout season at Southampton and has been well, consistent but hardly as if anyones ever thought we made a mistake so it was the right call.

It seems that way. Not one person will care if we win both the CL and FA cup, even if we were sitting 10th. But two losses (WBA & tonight) when we are still pretty much in control of our own destiny and everyone loses their mind and starts thinking the “safe option” of regularly finishing top 4 is better than winning a European cup by the looks of it. Top clubs celebrate trophy wins not finishing 4th place I thought? Obviously still think we will manage the top 4 but if we miss out and win the CL it makes no difference anyway. As Jason said, we aren’t Arsenal. Being satisfied with 4th place is settling for a near nothing achievement now a days for a club like us. Go have a look at Arsenal over the years as an example of what making top 4 or top 6 finishes as a major achievement gets you. Or Tottenham. Personally, Id rather see us win the CL and FA cup than lose both and finish 4th because its a massive achievement to win any sort of major double, especially one including the CL. Plus these younger or newer players with a few trophy wins its just the beginning, the Havertz, James, Mounts, Chilwells, Gilmours, Pulisics, Werners etc if they get a taste for winning the big trophies, it only aids their development and pushes this group on even more. Everyone in the media always says Man United need to win a trophy under Ole but this group here need it. 100%. Thats why not winning the FA cup or Super Cup last season was huge. It was the same with City winning that FA Cup and then their first PL then Pellegrini came in and then Pep but they’ve never really stopped winning in the last 10 years. This group has been refreshed and need the taste for it. I still refuse to believe we’ve sacked the season off for 2 cup finals or underestimated anyone.... That starting 11 was more than good enough to beat Arsenal and probably compete v most teams we play. He said he wasn’t happy and what not but that team was good enough to win and with the chances we had still should have won. Why does the contract length matter? Or no CL for that matter if it comes to it? Look at what no CL did for Antonio Conte in his first season. We aren’t going to sack someone who got us from 8/9th to in the running for the top 4 as well as 2 cup finals. Not only that but showing obvious huge signs of improvement, who wants to be a title contender next season. Plus he has an option for an additional year on his deal. And there were rumours that the the club apparently want to discuss new terms with him prior to the Madrid second leg. So aye, one loss v Arsenal wont change that.

I think he maybe gets to start aye. Would make sense. I don’t think hes shown any bad signs under Tuchel and playing in a cup final would boost his morale considerably I think in what will be his last season here I would think.

Eh what? What do you mean? Team selection? Approach to the game? This makes no sense either way. If its team selection, arguably 7 of the guys who started tonight would be in with a shout of starting the cup finals so quite honestly, your talking nonsense if you mean the starting 11. From tonight: James, Chilwell, Azpi, Thiago Silva, Mount, Jorginho, then one of Havertz/Pulisic, who have all been prominent with Tuchel. Performance we didnt exactly sit off them for 90 minutes or let them have the ball either. So what do you mean took them too lightly? Lets be honest either way, people remember cup and trophy wins more than finishing 4th in the PL regardless also so if he had prioritised the weekend then fine but would severely disagree that he’s prioritised it on the basis of that starting 11 tonight. Some changes yes but necessary because we have played every 3 days for god knows how long now and also have 4 other games in 2 weeks. Also lets forget the whole reaction last season when we limped to top 4 on the last day as if it was a major achievement despite having a 12 point gap and sitting 3rd for a period months back. The overreaction is huge. If we win both cup finals and don’t get top 4 nobody will give a fuck. If we get top 4 and dont win the cup finals people will care more about the cup finals.

No but when you dont take your chances you always increase the risk of losing a game/dropping points. I get people are frustrated and angry with the results but we had 2/3 big chances that could of made the game 2/3-1 then nobody would be saying anything about Jorginho...

6 points v Leicester and Villa? Wouldn’t start panicking we should be favourites and more than capable of beating both. Plus I have a feeling United will probably end up extending their unbeaten run tomorrow, a Utd win would be great but even a draw makes it harder for Liverpool. We will see tomorrow I suppose. The level has to go up again but as someone said look at the reaction after the WBA game, which was a lot worse than tonight performance wise. Plus 2 big finals as well we have to treat these last 4 games all as finals. As we should of been anyway after beating City because we have everything to play for.

Jesus that Arsenal defensive performance was well utter madness. They almost got as lucky as some of our shit in the 2012 CL run also. I mean that hitting the bar twice thing was comical. I mean bar the lack of creativity we have utterly dominated them there in every other aspect of the game and whilst thats not always enough, how the fuck we haven’t scored some of those chances, not got a clue, mental. Although our creativity wasn’t great either. Season isn’t done yet though and this game isn’t as big as the Leicester one still. Even more so now. Plus see what happens tomorrow night with Liverpool-United, Ole has a decent record getting draws w Klopp despite being an absolutely average manager so who knows. If we lose v Leicester I would start worrying about the season going up in smoke.

You know your offensive players have been bad when Zouma is shooting outside the box, regularly. Also Reece and Masons delivery from set plays tonight has been fucking abysmal every time.

And if Havertz scored his chance or Pulisic? Or Zouma? Or Giroud there? Goals win games, we havent created enough second half and the reaction would be different otherwise. Mount, Pulisic, Havertz, CHO, Giroud have all been worse.

Pulisic man.... Giroud does fantastic there. Fucking hell. CHO maybe take a bit more care on the cross also. Either way seasons not finished it will all work out.

Well you’ve certainly changed your tune. Maybe you’ll be happy then. Seeing the same level of “desperate clueless shite” here than what it was under Frank (your words). You wanted to see the club give Frank to the end of the season you had said so yourself so maybe you got your wish 🤪

Would be hugely harsh to say that. West Brom was a shit show from start to finish. Defence, midfield and attack, narrowing it down to one person would he incredibly daft. Even tonight, aye he’s basically gifted them their goal but at the same time theres 11 out there and the attackers have been the most disappointing players for me. No genuine input tonight second half and guiltily of missing big chances first half.

Is it time to maybe put Werner on?

Giroud on. 25 minutes. Get us a goal big man we need one 😂

Nvm fucksake. 😂

I wouldn’t start sweating about it yet. We don’t know that Liverpool win all their games or Leicester don’t drop more points. People are acting as if Liverpool and Leicester are these sort of invincible teams or that they will win their games regardless of who they are against. Jesus Leicester were looking like they might drop out of third place prior to their win the other night after dropping points v Newcastle and Southampton. And the same Liverpool who dropped 4 points v Leeds and Newcastle and play United tomorrow who you wouldn’t be surprised if OGS took points off them as is his record against the likes if Pep, Klopp, us etc. ultimately we are still in the driving seat. And theres a goal so now people will stop shitting their drawers.

Jesus do people think we are West Ham or Newcastle or something? Fuck sake. I mean theres the second half still here and then 2 games v Leicester and Villa we are more than capable of winning. Thats 6 points we should be able to get with ease and say we don’t het the win tonight that gives us 70 points. Throw on top potentially managing to get a draw or win tonight still. Even it Liverpool win there remaining 4 they can only get 69 points. Plus if we beat Leicester chances are we go above then.

Records made to be broken. Lets go. Hudson-Odoi on for more penetration in the final third maybe.

It is overreacting. Severely. Even worse the folk greeting about the starting 11. Not one mention from you on how we have completely controlled and dominated the game, which regardless of the score, we have. Poor finishing and sometimes a lack of movement or creativity (which isn’t exactly anything new) has hindered us but I suppose nobody wants to mention that as if it is a one off game thing when its not, its been a problem a lot of the season. I mean I know Arsenal are bad but they’ve literally done nothing all game bar score a fluke goal from a mistake because we have more or less completely dominated them. They cant get out. They have had 2 shots, 1 on target. The only thing that is not good enough has been the mistake, the application has been there, the control of the game has been there, the energy to win the ball back is there. Its not as if we have chucked it. Some drama queens on here man.