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It must be said that immgrants to Australia usually come by shoddy boats. When they are turned away many die. This is the difference. Australia turning away immigrants results in deaths...

I don't know man. I hate to turn people away from Australia. It's disgusting but sometimes it needs to be done. Now Australia looks like a big country but it really isn't. "This means Australia's habitable land takes up approximately 10% of the actual land mass, with 90% being 'termed' uninhabitable." That is a quote taken from: http://37propertygroup.com.au/real-estate/population-density/ So 10% of 7,692,024 km2 Is 769,202.4km2. England is 130,395 km2 . You probably think, yeah Aus is still bigger than England. Buuuut Australia has drought and water issues. We have clean, great water in Austrlaia. Fit for anyone to drink but what happens if the population grows so large the water sources deplete? We die. We have less food, less everything. I'm essentially a multi-generation naturalised immigrant and an immigrant to the USA. I grew up in Australia, love the country and the culture is an integral part of my identity. To turn away immigrants is to be against what the nation fundamentally is: a pot of multicultural immigrants. The lands originally belong to the Indigenous Australians, to turn away immigrants would be hypocritical and insulting to the people who forcibly lost their lands to immigrants. It's a crisis of philosophy. Either let those that want to come in and be the Australia that the nation was always meant to be or close the borders and keep things the way they are insuring the lifestyle and culture of modern Australia stays intact. I don't think it's necessarily an issue of losing jobs or wealth, it's an issue of sustainability. Can Australia's infrastructure support a growing population. It really, really struggles. I know some great people that have immigrated to Australia and have become citizens. Chinese, English, Irish, German, Americans, Filipinos far too many to list. Are they the issue? No I don't believe so. I believe the illegal immigrants with no passports, no history and no credentials are. Can these people be trusted? Will they give to society as much as they take? Will they improve Australia? Or will they make it worse? It's impossible to know. We could be turning away some fantastic people, they would work hard and make this country better...but we could also be turning away possible welfare sponges, criminals and lowlifes.

If immigrants (illegal or otherwise) are payed the same amount as locals then there is no incentive to hire immigrants unless they are more qualified. At the end of the day if you are getting the same rate as an immigrant but you don't get the job it will be because they are more qualified. I don't know if this rings true in England but it does in MURIKA.

It's as if you want me to question your sexuality again.

Cheeky. I don't know about Argentina but that'd be a lawsuite in a lot of countries!

People are still worked up about this? Kay.

Eh, you are right. I just don't think it's unreasonable for someone in the media to lose their jobs like that. The media is just a different entity than every day life.

If I were to work for and represent a company and I said something that conflicted with their core philosophy, i wouldn't be surprised if I were fired.

People need to understand that will every action comes a consequence. Free speech is not exclusive to this rule. Say what you wish, but there will always be a consequence. Some weightier than others.

I wasn't even talking about free speech. Of course he can say what he wants but he can deal with the consequences. The consequence is that the SBS doesn't want to associate with his opinions and they don't want him representing them. It's that simple. Same goes for any job where you represent an orgnaisation. He is an adult, he must take responsibility for his actions. It's not like his twitter account has been deleted, his posts redacted and his voicebox destroyed. Free speech isn't the issue here. There isn't an issue at all. Some guy in the media voiced his opinion, his employers disagreed and he was fired. The entire incident will be forgotten in a week. His right to free speech isn't even in jeopardy. FFS, blown way out of proportion. I mean if you are so concerned with free speech, then stop banning people on here. Same thing.

He is just an idiot that is shitting on people that gave their lives for something they believe in. The ANZAC's military actions of WWI and WWII were not born of any imperialistic needs. The first war was a bunch of kids volunteering to fight a war they knew nothing about, the second was to defend Australia from Imperial Japan. ANZAC Day is to remember the courage and very few beautiful parts of very dark times. Not to 'cultify' who shot who or what atrocities were committed. There is a reason why people like John Simpson Kirkpatrick are remembered, not the guy who shots the most Turks. Secondly, the fact that he brings up the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki show an ignorance of history and what ANZAC Days stands for. I for one, don't see a bunch of people saluting the fucking Enola Gay on ANZAC Day. What does it have to do with Australia? Australians didn't build the bomb, drop and kill a lot of people. Australians didn't give the order to murder a bunch of innocents. Hiroshima wasn't even meant to be bombed, but a cloudy conditions caused the pilot to make a call and he made a fucking terrible one. Thirdly, he crucifies the ANZACs as rapists, thieves and murderers. Not only is this an unsubstantiated claim but he drags the names of those that fought against these things through the mud. He speaks of other nations as they are not guilty of these disgusting atrocities. He should criticise the entire human race, not the ANZACs. He mentions the bombings of Japan but doesn't acknowledge the Rape of Nanking.

Shit season; the worst in years. It doesn't deserve a team of the year.

hur hur so fenney 9/8 wud read again better than lewis balck and louis ck

He was horrid at the start of the season IIRC.

What is with footballer and getting sleeve tattoos? It happened in rugby league a couple couple of years back. Every player and their brother had a messy ink blotch on their arms.

Essentially yes. It's absolutely horrible and disheartening.

I think the cause is hypotension. The Mrs. took my blood pressure last night and it was quite low, I think low blood pressure has been a recurring issue in my health. At least on the bright side it only affects the left side of my head and neck. They tend to trigger when my blood flow changes and redirects to...heh another part of the body, if you follow my drift.

The job that Gonalons would do is already covered by players like Can and Allen. So they'd lose a unique and valuable asset and replace it with another assett that is already similar to something they have in stock. Gonalons is a good player but he doesn't fufill a need that Liverpool require.

Henderson and Gonalons are completely different players. That's the equivalent of selling Ramires for a player like Javi Martinez. Not a comparison on talent but approach to the game.

And who would they have brought in?

No person that chases a spherical object around a green field should be earning more than the average wage. What were Liverpool supposed to do in the first place? He was bought for a huge fee by the last owners and in the past two seasons has become one of their best players. They can't and couldn't have let him leave for free or for a reduced cost. In the circumstances this is a wise choice, not an ideal choice but very much necessary for the club to move forwards. Then there is Steven Gerrard's freed wages to use anyway.

The Champions League is irrelevant, I don't even know why you brought that up. He is their captain, an integral player and one of their most reliable. He'd start for most if not all teams in England and I'd wager he'd make Chelsea's midfield better. Juve and Pogba's situation has nothing to do with Liverpool and Henderson's situation, and the comparison is pointless. Yes, Hendo isn't as talented as Pogba but wages do not always equate to talent level, a lot of the time they equate to importance and Hendo is very, very important to Liverpool. Liverpool want to keep players like Henderson and to do that sometime ridiculous contracts need to be earnt. Henderson held the cards in this deal not Liverpool.

Don't know who you guys have been watching this season.

Empty net miss against United.

Even with all his millions he can't buy style. Shit hair.