Amblève.

Did Jose just call out Torres for his lack of effort? Brilliant.

Fucking. Awesome.

Of course Barcelona get a penalty gift. Anything else would have been a surprise.

That's not how TC works.

Then there's no reason to bring up a point about who was our best player if we're talking about creating chances... Well, key passes are passes that directly lead to a shot so there is some logic behind it. Off-ball movement is important, yes but if you're praising one single player for his movement then 10 other players have to be praised for their movement, too, as every single one of them is doing their part (occupying a specific part of the pitch or making a run) before a goal scoring opportunity is created. Key passes on the other hand give us the "evidence" as to who is picking the final pass aka directly creating the shot of a teammate. And again I ask, what's the point in bringing up arguments like Oscar not being a flashy player, having a good shot, still adjusting to the PL etc when the talk is about creating chances? I'm no Oscar "hater" or whatever, I appreciate and like his play but there's some flaws in his game and things things he's not good at (yet!) and directly creating chances is one of them. Obviously, his stats could be (and are probably) flawed due to his immense workrate which has had an effect on his fitness resulting in a lack of concentration in the final third, especially when he had Lampard and Ramires behind him and had to cover for them. But whether this assumption is true or not is something we don't really know, but that being said it's definitely gonna be interesting to see how Oscar will work as our no. 10 with a proper double pivot sitting behind him.

What does being the best player have to do with creating chances? Oscar averages 1,4 key passes per game in the PL this season, compared to Hazard's 2,5, Lampard's 1,3 and Ramires 1,2 just to put Oscar's numbers into perspective. As for creating chances, Oscar is just barely better than Ramires which is rather shocking...

He has sucked at creating chances the whole season, not just since Mata left, smh.

Don't we already have enough CB prospects?!

I believe JT goes a bit unnoticed due to Cahill's improvement. Our skipper is still the heart of our defense, if it weren't for his organising on the defensive end I highly doubt Cahill and the rest of your back 4 would do as well as they're doing atm.

Chapeau, Jose!

He was doing well here, even out of position, smh...

"Next step is just to ignore you"... "not worth my time"... it's funny that you're reverting back to old habits and being a hypocrite like you've been during the whole Mata story... The people that liked your "opinion" couldn't provide any logical argument - just like you... coincidence? This is not a "petty argument" because I and lots of other posters are still waiting to be given any logically reasonable counter-argument. If you're not able to state one single logical point, which going by empirical evidence is not gonna be the case in the future either, then leave this discussion and I say it again, spare us from the irrational humbug.

Look, who can be bothered now... Maybe you should ask yourself whether you're the problem or not, not the other way around. Because if you're getting to the point where you can't reply anything other than "Agree to disagree!" to almost everyone all the time then chances you're not capable of backing up your arguments properly are high.

The thing is (and that's what you don't understand) that your "opinion" makes no sense or whatsoever. You've been given countless of counter-arguments and yet, I'm still waiting to see anything other than a "It's my opinion, if you don't agree blah blah blah" post of yours. And I'm not just talking about this whole Mata discussion, it's the same fucking thing every time you get involved in a discussion.

No, it's not rude. It's the only language you understand as you have been resistent to any rational reply you received to your insane posts about Mata.

Good, then do us all a favor and spare us from your BS, fuck off and never visit this thread again as Mata is not part of this club anymore.

I think 15m plus add-ons which would raise the whole fee up to about 20m should be okay, too.

Class feature.

He has but he hasn't been good at it. Last season under Heynckes he was exclusively used as a CAM and this season Guardiola even uses Lahm as DM before he even looks at Kroos to do the job there.

No, not really. Kroos lacks mobility and speed to be a reliable partner for anyone in a double pivot.

The most complete player I've had the luck to watch playing.

And he didn't want to beg Jose to let him sit on the bench! How dare he!

Did anyone notice that United published the official transfer fee on their HP? What a bitch move.

Smfh.

What. A. Human. Being.