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I agree mostly with this. You build the team around your matchwinner(s)

what does that have to do with the argument though? I haven't even given my opinion of both Maradona and pele and for the record I feel they both belong in the top 5 GOAT. Their talent, achievemnet and impact on the game pretty much cemented their legacy as footballs elite but that's besides the point. As for the original point. I believe that simply makes Maradona's goal is an iconic and hugely important goal but not the best goal. There's a clear difference although the two can be mutually inclusive. if goals where judged based on external factors, goal of the week/month in every league will simply be dominated by last minute winners/equalisers and important goals scored in big games but they aren't.

You build the around 1) The most important player in your team, II) The most productive and consistent player. Hazard doesn't qualify under this terms. The team should be built around one of Costa, or Fabregas

So you think those 3 were as good as the likes of Beckenbaeur,baresi,maldini, Moore et al?

Fair enough however I was referring to the quality of the goal itself and not the external factors that makes the goal held in such high regard. My argument is that there are plenty of solo goals better than the maradona one aesthetically and difficulty wise regardless of the occasion and weight of importance. And the fact that you deem it the greatest goal in history period proves my point. The media pretty much forced that goal down everyone's throat the same way they tried to make everyone accept that Pele is the greatest footballer of all time.

What do you disagree with

Those defenders had weaknesses and it could be argued that they were lucky to have played with another worldclass/top qality defensove partners in their prime. JT obviously wasnt very athletic and slow. Fedinand had concentration issues and was a rash defender at times especially in westham and leeds days and adams had similar weakness to JT. The top tier defenders had no weakness at all. None that anyone could pick out anyway and were more consistent as well.

Definitely. What made him unique was how cleanly he won most tackles. A contrast to the typical old school defenders who get both the players leg and the ball. That quality makes him a defender for any generation. He would fit right in and standout in todays watered down game.

Based off pure talent, kovacic. But in terms of productivity and performance its sterling

Anyone that fails to mention Liverpool deserves a lifetime ban

My writing style is just fine. thanks very much for the unsolicited advice. As long as you are not implying JT is in the same class as Nesta, I have got no problem with that.

You must be trolling if you don't think that's ridiculously controversial as Nesta is mentioned in the same breath as Maldini,Baresi,Stam, Scirea et al and consistently makes the top ten list of knowledgeable writer and pundits all time best defenders and is recognized world wide as one of top 4 best defenders of the last generation alongside Stam, Cannavaro and Thuram while the same can never be said of JT. JT is in the same class as the Vidic, Ferdinand, Puyol, Adams, Hierro's, just a level or two below the very greatest which is a compliment.

Well you said you had take rather than JT is better, if it's the latter then that's just ridiculous and you would struggle to find even 1 person that saw both defenders in their prime agree with you. plenty of Italians and Milan fans consider Nesta as maldini's equal. that's how fecking great he was.

I will be beyond pissed and gutted if he doesn't make it here http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/11/15/7225115/6-minutes-of-jeremie-boga

Prime Carvalho was better than JT imo but not "million times better"

don't be greedy

Here mine Cristiano Ronaldo is a limited footballer whose contributions is limited to goal scoring only (modern day Gerd Muller with pace) Prime Xavi is the best central midfielder/DLP of the last 50 years There's no single defender currently that belongs in the same class as the top defenders of previous generation ala Nesta,Stam,Thuram,Canavaro etal and it's a sad reflection of mediocre standard of defending today. The Maradona solo effort against England is by far the most overrated solo goal of all time. As solo goals go, Zlatan vs Nac Breda, Messi vs getafe, , Giggs vs Arsenal, Messi vs Madrid, Messi vs zaragoza and Grafite vs Bayern were all better both in terms of aesthetics and degree of difficulty

Play Koke with Matic and move fabregas forward. Oscar and Willian can fight it out for the RW spot. Moreover competition is always a good thing. for one, it will help keep Fabregas on his toes and motivate him to step up in big games. right now he knows he's undroppable and untouchable regardless of how poorly he plays.

I hope so too. he could become our yaya Toure and players like that are very rare i.e great combination of physicality and technical ability

It's exactly the same reason why Utd lost Pogba. Ferguson was on record (and most utd fans who followed their youth team were in agreement too) that Pogba was feeling too big for reserve football and looked totally half arsed and unmotivated and as a result wasn't given first team opportunities. I bet he regrets the decision now. I have always said that I will have a lazy Zidane (and he was lazy in truth) over a hard working Ji sung park everyday of the week.

Varane hopefully. in what world? There's more chance of Real selling Bale than Varane.

I would sell Salah for no player in return nevermind a WC/decent player. He brings no value whatsover to the team and I'm surprised some posters are even against the idea of selling him.

I hope the club hierarchy and jose feel the same.So far there's been little indication that they rate him at all, nevermind that highly which is a big shame.

That looks like a very credible source and all but I'm not believing it until skysports Nigeria confirms it

I was against signing him from day one however He was the best player in the swiss league and was very good in Europe prior to signing him. I could understand why we signed him although I still believed Thorgan would have been a better choice at the time and in hindsight.