Pizy
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It’s best that Chelsea fans don’t get TOO invested or desperate in this Olise chase. Seems as if Chelsea Twitter are all acting as if it’s a done deal. All that’s happened is that ourselves and at least 2 others have asked Palace for permission to speak to him. That’s the easy part. The tough job is convincing him to choose our project. Tbh, I think United are in a more desperate situation so I could see them offering significantly more in wages to him than we will under Clearlake. We don’t really offer those monster wages anymore. It’s super long contracts with “modest” wages by today’s standards.
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That was when it was just us after him though, right? Now he’s apparently got 3-4 suitors. I was just reading that City, Liverpool, and even Arse are interested.
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Ornstein now says the same. Honestly doesn’t mean much yet since so many other big clubs (some with CL footie to offer) are also after him. Wake me up if we actually hear that he has agreed to choose us over the others.
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Absolutely no to Tammy. Likewise Solanke. Both pure predators whose goals come almost entirely from chaos and fortune inside the box. We need a striker who can do a bit of everything. Solanke for £65m in particular would be insanity. Seriously, go watch all of his goals from this past season and nearly all of him come from the ball ping ponging Aron d in the box and falling to him for easy finishes. You can find a hundred strikers who can do that. He’s not special and certainly not worth a huge fee. I’d rather sign no striker than either of them.
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Yoro 100% fits the exact profile of player our club loves (teenager with massive potential and huge future transfer value) but apparently has a ton of suitors after him. Would probably be a very tough one to pull off.
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If Gallagher ends up staying I don’t know how we can possibly keep all these midfielders happy after the reporting that Andrey Santos will stay. Many of our fans seem to forget that Chukwameka should be back to full fitness to start the season as well and he looked super promising before his big injury. And I have no clue what the purpose of Ugochukwu is if both Lavia and Santos are here as the #6’s. For deep sitting DM: Lavia, Andrey Santos, Ugochukwu For more box to box #8’s: Gallagher, Enzo, Caicedo, Chukwameka, Casadei Feels at least like 2 of those have to go.
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The Colwill rumors aren’t even worth paying attention to. Especially when linked to a cheap ass club like Bayern who can’t even agree on a fee for Tah for MUCH lower than any theoretical fee we’d demand if Levi was for sale. Which he isn’t. If this was Man City who were trying to get him I’d be worried because they’d actually be willing to offer the £80m+ it would take for us to agree.
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The policy of signing almost entirely kids for development and potential is fine if you also supplement that policy every once in a while with a ready made, expericend player here and there. And for positions like striker and keeper in particular we should NOT be going the super young and raw route. The scouts want to bring in really young midfielders or wingers that’s fine. But our biggest need heading into this window BY FAR is a proven striker who can hit the ground match week 1 and have us feeling confident that they can start scoring. And yet we’re going with a raw af Jhon Duran? Again, I’m not going to slaughter the signing completely until I watch him for a bit in a blue shirt. I’m more bewildered and confused than angry at this.
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Isn’t Deivid Washington meant to be a super talented young striker who we just spent a bunch of money on 1 year ago? Why not give him a proper look and see if he’s ready rather than spending €50m on Duran and blocking his pathway to the first team? It just makes no sense. Our transfer approach is increasingly weird. Buying young super talents in the same damn positions and therefor giving each one less of a chance of making it at the club.
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Kvara would be incredible but De Laurentiis would probably quote us £100m for him.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that link. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ That’s absolutely what this current sporting department would do. Imagine if our entire business this summer window is appointing a manager from the Championship, signing a winger from the Championship, signing Aston Villa’s backup striker, and signing a CB (who I do really like) on a free. Fucking YIKES! lmao All on top of selling fan favorite Chelsea youth products Chalobah & Gallagher. This ownership better pray to God that all those moves turn out to be strokes of genius because if we have another poor season the toxicity will be insane.
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Also, if Olise does choose United over us are we still after another winger? Or was it just that we really, really want Olise specifically? If the club are willing to pay £60m+ for Olise then there are surely other fantastic wide attackers we could get as alternatives with that money.
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I think it all depends on what else happens in the window. If he is the only striker we sign then the club deserve every bit of shit the fans direct their way. If he is one of 2 strikers we buy and the other one is the primary starter then okay. If he is being thought of as someone who will compete with Jackson and those two are the only ones on the books then we’re fucked.
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I just want to hear what the club leaks/briefs to the reporters about Duran. What their justification is for potentially spending such a ridiculous amount of money an an unproven backup striker from Aston Villa. Like who’s driving the signing and what they think his potential is etc. The fact that we wanted him back in January too must mean that someone in particular in our scouting department has to see some massive potential or something.
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In other news, Ten Hag stays at United. Which probably means they’ll be attacking the Olise situation full-on with that settled now. Bad news for those of you who really want Olise probably.
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I’ve learned after last summer that I shouldn’t write off an underwhelming or non-sexy signing. Palmer for £45m got a lot of “that much money for a guy who can’t even get a game for City?!” And there were also like 4-5 other attacking mids that we all preferred like Cherki for example. Then he turned out to be the best player in the league for the season. But goddamn, it would be a crazy gamble to spend all this money on Duran.
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Same. A great step up for him would be to one of the perennial midtable clubs. He is not a top 4 level player.
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Having actually watched the highlights of Duran just now on YouTube rather than looking at his stats alone and dismissing him as I’d normally do, he DOES look like an absolute animal in terms of work rate, physicality, and potential. But this is the sort of striker you bring in as a long term project who is in the squad behind an already established and world class #9. Which of course we still don’t have. He isn’t someone who an already super young and inconsistent strike force needs. If Man City for instance sold Alvarez and replaced him with Duran to backup and learn from Haaland I’d be saying “yeah, that makes sense.” As for Solanke, I’m in the same place with him returning as I was with Tammy when the idea of him coming back for huge money was being thrown out there: AVOID ATBALL COST! These guys look great as the big fish in a smaller pond types. He would flop hard if we bought him to Chelsea.
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Toney I’m not really sold on anymore. I could see him coming in and flopping. Osimhen is too expensive surely. Watkins and Isak are at clubs with UCL ambitions so would be impossible. Villa and Newcastle are in big trouble if they sell those guys because they’d be nearly impossible to replace. Gyokeres & Davis are interesting. Could be decent fallback options if Alvarez is off the table.
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True, but you can afford to be patient with a young midfielder or winger or most other positions. But when we already have a striker like Jackson who is super inconsistent with his finishing the absolute last thing we need is to add some kid who is the same. We either need a striker who is the finished article or at least well on his way to being so.
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It’s basically Alvarez or we gamble massively on a kid like Duran. And if Alvarez is impossible I’d rather buy no striker this window and hope that a fully fit Nkunku + Nico Jackson improving + potentially adding Olise is enough until we can identify a new striker next window. As for Andrey Santos coming into the team, I think it would make sense only if Gallagher left tbh. From what I remember seeing of him from last preseason with us he is MUCH more suited to that deep lying #6 role than CG. He and Lavia as our #6’s with Enzo and Caicedo in front of them sounds fine to me. I would’ve figured between our youth midfielders we’ve bought recently that Casadei would be the on earmarked to step into the first team under Maresca since he coached him already at Leicester.
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The Colwill stuff better be bullshit. And these Bayern reporters are always spouting bullshit linking the club to everyone under the sun each window. We shouldn’t even be picking up the phone for anyone inquiring about Colwill. He could be one of, if not THE key player under Maresca.
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Man United need to buy essentially a whole new team. They need 2 new fullbacks, 2 new CB’s, at least 1 new midfielder, at least 1 new winger, and another striker as rotation for Hoijland. People call us a mess of a club and that may be true off the pitch. But we are in much, MUCH better shape as a club than they are and only need 2-3 new signings to complete our team. Why Olise would want to go there instead of coming here I have no idea. And I’m someone who doesn’t even think we need him and don’t necessarily want him. I could understand if they had UCL football and we didn’t. Or if they looked like they were right on the brink of becoming a serious team whilst we finished 10th or something.
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Getting £30m for Broja would be insane. You do that before Everton wake up from their drunken stupor.
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See we’re buying yet another Brazilian teenager 🤣🤣🤣🙃🙃🙃 In a year or two’s time the squad is going to show up for preseason and have about 15 “super talents” that are 17-18 years old. No idea what we’re going to do with all these kids.