Pizy
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I’m fairly convinced it’ll be Iraola at the moment. It’s the easiest appointment they could probably make because he’ll be free from a club, he’ll be fairly easy to sell to the supporters, and because I don’t know of another big club of our stature that’ll be after him this summer with Carrick seemingly more and more likely to stay at United. With guys like Alonso it will probably be much more of a battle to convince him to come here. Even Cesc who may be smart enough to know that he could get Rosenior’d and make the jump too soon.
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Yeah, he has been poor this season as have Newcastle overall. For the sort of money required it would be a massive overpay. But it must be said that if Iraola is our next manager Gordon would probably suit his style like a glove and he’s definitely better than Garnacho or Gittens. Do I want him? No. Would I freak out if he’s a genuine target? Probably not.
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Lamps would be the absolute desperation play from the owners. It would essentially be them saying “here is your all time favorite son, please stop hating us!” We’d probably have a nice start to next season where everyone around the club is nice and happy and then collapse again soon because Frank simply isn’t a top manager yet.
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Yeah, there isn’t one. Some people might have said Alonso would’ve been had he jumped straight from Leverkusen to here. But the Madrid spell may have knocked him down a peg. Although, the mention of his name seems to have loads of our fans badly wanting him on social media. That may be more down to the quality of the other names, though.
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None of the names are wowing me either. As for Alonso failing at Madrid, wasn’t that more due to him clashing with the likes of Vini for being a spoiled brat than about anything tactical? I don’t even remember. Our problem is that due to how awfully we’ve been run I don’t think there’s any possible “wow” appointment out there. Or even one that may not blow us away but who we could at least say “even though I’m not excited I’m 100% confident he’ll make us a serious team.” All we’re really left with is gambles on overachieving small club managers of which multiple have already failed under this ownership.
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Did I say I wanted him? lol I’m just saying he’s a very good coach. He maximizes what he can get at a small club with super limited resources. Of the names we’ve heard linked thus far I think I’d put Xabi Alonso at the top of the pile followed by Iraola.
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We would need some serious personnel changes if Iraola is the choice. Which I’m not sure we can do if the reports of our finances being a total mess are true. A LOT of players have to be moved on once again and quite a few that suit him would need to come in. Marco Silva is a great coach but I’m skeptical that he’d be a good fit at this moment. I think he would be Maresca level inday we’ll look tactically well set up and more structured but not good enough to truly become elite. Eddie Howe would be a puppet here. Very solid coach but again, is he good enough to challenge for titles?
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Don’t know how anyone can look at that XI and feel any kind of hope. And the bench is embarrassing. I realize that we have a bunch of key injuries but still. For this to be the state of our bench after all the money spent is mad.
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Feels like humiliation is on the cards one way or another, whether it’s at the hands of Leeds tomorrow or by City in the final. So it’s a struggle to even muster an ounce of desire to watch this one.
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I pray that Lamps isn’t actually on the list for consideration. He’s one of my favorite ever players but I just don’t think he is Chelsea manager level still. He’s at the perfect sort of club right now. We’ve tried the experiment a couple of times now and it hasn’t worked out.
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On the one hand it’s obviously smart to wait until after the season to assess more options. But on the other you risk having unexpected competition for your main choices if some other huge jobs suddenly come open. If United decide they don’t want to keep Carrick. If Arse complete the meltdown and finish 2nd for the 4th straight season will Arteta be safe? They may feel he’s taken them as far as he can. Pep could leave City. Slot doesn’t exactly feel like a complete lock in his position.
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My worry with Cesc would be that something similar to Lampard would happen. Once the initial feel good factor wears off and he’s got to manage a massive club against elite managers and opponents in a super high pressure environment, he could be exposed as the relative novice that he is. For me, I feel like our next manager MUST be someone with lots of experience at a high level.
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Not saying they’ll go out and try to do whatever it takes to sign a big name coach or anything. But I DO think they’ll be scared of even further antagonizing the fanbase by appointing another Rosenior or Potter. It won’t be someone who excited or impresses us from minute 1 but I think it’ll at least be someone the players themselves can respect unlike Rosenior.
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They go for another novice like that and they might get run out of London by fans with pitchforks.
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Think Emery would indeed be the top choice if I could choose anyone somewhat realistic but still likely impossible. But with Villa in the UCL again and being much more sensible and stable than we are I don’t see why he would come.
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Eddie Howe has done a hugely respectable job for the most part at Newcastle and before that at his other jobs. But there’s a reason Newcastle aren’t jumping at the chance to renew his contract and why there’s rumors about them going and trying to get a big name to replace him. Newcastle have been as poor as we’ve been this season. Like the other PL managers we’re linked to I think he’d do a solid job in theory. But we need someone who has the ability to take us back to the very top which I don’t see him as.
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All the quotes and stories I’m seeing on social media about Iraola make it sound like he’s one of those maniacal coaches who works his players into the ground in terms of training and prep. Which is something these players could do with but also something where you can see some serious issues since so many of our players are divas which huge egos. He sounds very much like other super micromanager type Spanish coaches like Pep and Arteta.
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Emery, Simeone. Shit, even Klopp. There’s likely a 1% chance these guys say yes but you should at least offer them a massive bag of cash and decision making power. Kompany is in the ultimate dream spot for a manager currently where he can sleepwalk to league titles and make deep UCL runs most seasons. Exactly like Enrique. I think the only job he’d leave Bayern for is to succeed Pep at City.
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Here in American sports when some massive job opens up there’s a common sentiment that you should call around to coaches of other massive teams and “force them to tell you no.” Even if it’s a completely pie in the sky, totally unrealistic, never in a million years sort of target you should still make the call and try. I feel like we should do this with a couple of big name managers. Even if they laugh and don’t even take our call.
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Yep, true. But unless Man United decide they want him we’ll probably be by far the biggest club interested in him. I really just don’t know how I’d feel about him at all. We saw Potter do a super impressive job at small English club and look what happened. The question you’ll always get with this type of candidate is whether they can get the big personalities and egos of players at a massive club to fully buy in like the players at their previous small club did. If Iraola is the guy I’m not in the least bit excited. An upgrade on Rosenior for sure but not someone who gets the pulse racing.
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Available, no. But it used to be when Chelsea needed a manager we could go to someone who was currently employed at another big club and convince them to come here. As in the mud as we are currently I would hope that these guys at least make some top level managers laugh in their faces and tell them no. If they offer enough money and control you never know if one might actually say yes. But it’s seeming more and more like Iraola will be the guy.
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Some of these names are depressing. Not a single one that would give any Chelsea supporters genuine excitement or belief that things can definitely be turned around. The fact that a guy who hasn’t even managed 2 years in Terzić is even a name linked is insane. And if memory serves he didn’t exactly leave Dortmund on great terms. Whilst I think the current 4 PL managers that are being named (Iraola, Howe, Marco Silva, and Glasner) may be able to steady things and get us competitive again, would I be at all confident that any of these guys could take us to the level that we aspire to return to? Nope. There really doesn’t seem to be any manager out there that could make the Chelsea fanbase stop and think “oh, wow, maybe BlueCo really are serious now.” These are all yet more “hope and pray they work out” level candidates.
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“Champions League push” lmao…bit late for that you idiots. All the reliable guys are saying no new manager is being lined up yet which makes sense I guess. Never know who could unexpectedly be obtainable after the season. As with player recruitment, this will all come down to whether these clowns change their model. They’ve put out PR for the past couple of weeks about how they’re going to change the model with player signings. They need to do the same with the manager. No more Rosenior/Maresca/Potter “learning on the job” guys. We should also be sacking whoever the fuck decided to push so hard for Gittens and Garnacho.
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If you ask yourself “would any other big side in the PL even consider this manager if there was an opening at their club” and the answer is no chance, we shouldn’t be going anywhere near them. Enough with the “project” managers or the “young and promising coach who can grow with the young team over the years.” We need a PROVEN, respected manager whose priority first and foremost is to WIN NOW, not in 3 years.
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Terzić would be another clown appointment akin to Rosenior or even Maresca before he arrived and proved himself. A massive risk we’d be fucking insane to take after this current appointment. Iraola or Marco Silva who have shown excellent flashes in the PL already might be the best we could hope for in our current state. I love Fabregas but even he would be a massive risk I don’t think we can afford at this moment in time.