didierforever

dead/alive/nonexistent? whats up with him?

with pedro, he becomes redundant. before that, he was probably our best RW. but nothing less than 10mil.

^hahhahahha.. definition of over-hyped!!!

LOL..

yes, he was so brilliant last night that he did the same thing that people on here castrate GC for. if it had been GC who had done that, people would literally have picked up their pitchforks and torches. like shaw? he had a terrible first season and sterling is yet to prove that he is the 6th most expensive player EVER. rooney and rio became world class players. what about the types of downings who were bought for 20mil and were flops. and most of the english players turn out to be exactly that.

but juve seem to be in need of a winger. they are infact loaning in cuadrado. its not like we are forcing him down their throat. if psg want hazard and we WANT lavezzi on loan here, it would make sense that psg use lavezzi as some make shift weight. and i would say the loaning thing is simply cos of the fact that they have already spent a lot of money (like roma-salah thing). with pogba, it would have made sense that cuadrado be used as a proper bargaining chip.

what class? did u see his performance yesterday? if GC had put that performance he would have been burned alive. and how is it not comparable to torres. we are over-paying by atleast double the value of a player who clearly might never be worth that value. give kalas the amount of confidence stones has got from martinez. or andreas. both will never play cos of our grass is greener syndrome. just like kdb never got a real chance here and now he is worth 55 mil pounds. YOU had not heard of otamendi. YOU had only heard of stones cos he is another over-hyped english player. i remeber a lot of people saying the same thing when cazorla was bought or mata was bought. just cos people's knowledge of football is non-existent outside of PL, does not mean those players are not good. also, otamendi is 27. if he can give 5 good years, that is more than enough. 5 years in football is a life time. 3 months ago we had walked the league, look at city and chelsea now.

the fact that this is a loan deal probably kills the pogba deal. does not make sense that we dont use him as a make shift weight to lessent the value.

no we are not acting like those 40mil will bankrupt the club. we are acting about what it would mean for the club. john fucking stones for 40mil. next year, another average over-hyped engligh player who would be worth 10mil would be sold at 30mil. it would set a precedent. look at united and how 2 years of bad transfers is making every club milk them for all they are worth. next thing is why the fuck should we buy john stones for 40mil? we can buy howedes for half that value and he is a much better player than stones. wait much much much better player than stones. and dont give me that bullshit of "we are paying for potential", we already have potential with zouma, kalas and andreas. no need to waste that money on something who does not even improve our defence at the moment. you might not care, but most of us do. cos we have not forgotten how one bad transfer (remember torres 50mil) can set a club back 2-3 years. also, city's super expensive CB is ota-fucking-mendi. one of the best CBs in the world currently. are u actually comparing john stones to otamendi. lol, i have nothing more to say in that case. cos go to the pogba thread and see what most are writing. no one cares is pogba costs 100mil euros. he is worth it. he is a world class CM who improves us instantanouesly as well as solves our long term problems. stones does not do or barely does one of them.

please be true, please be true, please be true.

torres.

this non-EU thing is a real trouble. if juve have just one opening left, then it would be a massive concern.

he was quite good yesterday too. his overall performance was over shadowed by his atrocious miss.

courtois azpi GC zouma baba matic ramires/oscar pedro willian/oscar hazard costa.

if we sell oscar to get pogba, it would be a steal. shift to 4-3-3 even if it means having a string of average result due to transition cos this trio can dominate any midfield in the world. infact our players like rambo/mikel are more suited to a 3 man midfield than a 2 man pivot. it would be a brilliant move.

lets start with 20mil pounds again. cos thats how much he is really worth.

rambo/oscar and cuadrado for pogba would make sense for both sides. repeatedly saying that. ofcourse with some cash involved.

yup, that definitely sounds like me. and i would have done anything to defend jose before today. he certainly has lost a ton of respect that i had for him simply by starting iva today.

nope. you have got it all wrong. i have always implied that jose can see and jose does know what the problems are. but despite seeing and knowing he is not making the appropriate changes. hence that has made me question his priorities. for eg - why was cesc on the pitch today but not pedro. how exactly could a slow and tired and defensively poor cesc be a better option to cover for ivanovic's defensive liablity than pedro? like i said, makes me question his priorities. in another post u said that there is no knowing is the alternative would be better. fair enough, but playing zouma as a RB instead of iva who is also basically a CB turned RB does not seem a bad option. also, it does not matter if the alternative is better or not. sometimes, u need to do things just for the sake of it. ivanovic should have been dropped no matter what after his disastorous 2 matches to give him a kick up his backside. instead he seems to have got reassurance that his place is confirmed no matter how shit he performs. anyone on that has been on this forum can attest to the fact that i was a blind jose follower and before today i would have said and agreed everything that u have said. but unfortunately, jose seems to be not following the things he himself recommends. he says every player must earn his place. infact he has transferred players cos they apparently did not want to fight for their place. but on the other hand, our starting 11 does not seem to have an ounce of merit to it. our starting 11 seems to be fixed no matter what if those ABC players are available.no one is asking for a magic wand moment. i am not asking for bamford, RLC, ake to start getting first team minutes every weekend. all i am asking is that our starting 11 to not be written in stone but have some sense of merit to it.

it is very different. i support chelsea. not mourinho. if i see someone not doing their best for the club, i will point it out. and this is not a "small thing"... putting favouritism over the club from the manager can NEVER EVER be seen as a "small thing".

if cahill had "backed off"like sstones did against sterling and it resulted in a goal, GC would have been burned alive. also, did u see the david luiz moment. tried to get the ball in the midfield, could not , tracked back and collided with gallaway to put navas open and through on goal. would have been hilarious if navas had scored.

so why should i support jose when he is putting his favourites first before the welfare of chelsea. not that hard to understand.

what makes me right is the fact that we conceded both our goals down the right flank. what makes me right is the fact that iva got raped by montero and sterling. i guess you need to watch a match to know that. jose has earned the right to have his judgment put into effect cos he always made the hard decisions to back himself up. replacing courtois with cech, replacing lamps etv etc. somehting he is not doing with iva and cesc.

its not just my opinion, its the fact. want to see the number of goals and the percentages of the total goals we have conceded down the right flank in the last year?

so let me get this straight. iva has been shit for a year now. people are clamouring for him to be dropped. azpi is bein played as a LB and yet iva starts every match. and more so we have lost the likes of bertrand and luis cos of it... ya.. seems fair to compare these 2 things.