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he is not good enough!!!! he cant break defences!!!! take that... take fucking that!!!!

stupid fucking naismith...

no rambo? i think u have left out 2 out 4 definite starters for almost all of mou's PL games (rambo, iva, oscar, cech)

u said, OZIL HAD A LOT OF COMPETITION IN NO.10 SPOT FOR GERMANY for WC 2010. dint u? did or did not germany play with a no.10 in wc 2010? did ozil play for germany from 2002 to 2008, NO. so who the fuck cares what happened then. also if u had a bit of a common sense and a milligram of a brain, u would have understood that "now" was actually "not" in the first sentence of my previous post which i have already edited. but seems to be too much for u. makelele left cos perez deemed him surplus to requirements after getting beckham, to which zidane replied "Why put another layer of gold paint on the Bentley when you are losing the entire engine"... nothing was said so right now about the world's best player unfortunately. just goes on to tell how expendable ozil was. IF CR GOES. BIG IF BUDDY. get in the real world. but probably a big ask for u. how is la-la-la land treating u? since u r so adamant about saying how a person, who simply by selection into NT becomes a "LEVEL OVER" another one, i just gave your bizzare argument another twist. seems stupid, right? get urself admitted into a mental asylum. i know, it wont help a lot. but miracles happen.

i was not the one saying "ozil is a level above than mata in creativity", he was. hence that argument. dont think it can in any way come back to me. as for jose deeming oscar "a better player", i dont think so. jose wanted mata to adapt to his way. mata had played 45 minutes in the pre-season and against villa, he seemed match-unfit and physically unfit. mata needed the time. also jose wanted a no.10, who can defend. comeback and do a number on the opposition midfielder. if the point had been solely about who was more creative, it would be a no-brainer.

when i was born and watching football is none of your concern. TELL ME WHO WAS GERMANY'S NO.10 IN THE WC 2010 APART FROM OZIL. also germany plays with 4-2-3-1. so while every team might not have a no.10, germany definitely do. another time u have dodged this question. its getting pretty embarassing now. they dint say isco was a better player, but the sale of ozil says he is pretty replacable. not something u would expect for the best cam in the world, right? i mean which team sells the world's best player??? u need to get a brain to understand football, but since u have been dealt a bad hand by god himself, who am i to complain. if u want to give another stupid argument that mata should start over oscar, if he is that good, then if ozil is the best player in the world then he should have no problems in the RM team, right? i thought mata too got called up for NT. by the way, when did NT be the criteria to see who the best player was?did ribery win his "best player in europe" award for his performances with france? as far as the NT goes. what has ozil won? mata has a WC and euros with spain, add to it his CL and EL with chelsea. tell me what has ozil won with one od the best clubs in europe (rm) and one of the best NT in the world (germany). seems people would go to any idiotic and senile levels to defend their arguments. keep up the charades!!!!

hahahaha... oh mr. know it all. ozil is the best cam in the world and very much comparable to granero and canales. BRILLIANT. germany were 3rd in 2006WC and runner up in 2008 euro but talk about players that were in germany for WC 2010. rolfes, ballack, frings, kuranyi all out. was there any1 comparable to the world's best cam? or are u going to just tell me what positions germany got in euros and wc. seems u actually dont know anything but go about saying the weirdest possible things. i follow madrid enough to know what is going on with them. and let me get this straight. u think ozil is "A LEVEL ABOVE THAN MATA AND ISCO". but madrid, on isco's inclusion, deem ozil surplus. so probably the best player in world to have ever played (zidane) and one of the best managers in the world (carlo ancelotti) deemed that isco was a better player for RM (who want to win everythin and be the best in the world) than ozil. so THAT tells me more than your comparision. i seriously think, u need to actually come up with a better argument. because when u give a statement like "ozil is a level above than mata",i would think that u actually might think so for a reason or atleast have decent argument for the statement. but since u think so just because ozil plays for germany but mata does not for spain, i would like to say that this is the weakest and most pathetic argument i have seen by any1 in a long long time.

i know, for that u can go to otamendi thread and read me explaining the exact same loan thing to BUSHMAN. i m not challenging his loan. i am challenging the fact that people are discrediting everything he does by sayin its just everton. the point of the loan is to see if he can handle the pressure, and lead the line up of a top7 team. he has done that, and done that winderfully. hugely responsible for 6 points everton got from their last 2 games. i just want credit to be given where its due.

starting for germny in WC 2010 and RM soon after,,, so??? there was no competition. germany at that point dint have a proper no.10. muller was barely out of his diapers. kroos was not starting xi material, gotze and reus were still playing for youth teams. so who exactly was his competition. u must be kidding when u say RM, right? i mean are we supposed to take an always injured and past his prime, who does not even make his NT anymore kaka as his competition. tell me another good cam. all i remember is granero and canales. thats competition???

its espn. barbara's sites show the stat inclusive of his NT stat. and last year he had 12 assists and 5 goals for germany itself. plus my other site is the official RM site. dont think they would get it wrong.

better lucky than sorry and crying. FT must be doing something wrong when everything he throws at the goalie is saved. the argument was not even that. u need to go and read what i wrote. i dont believe lukaku would have solved our problems magically. but i do want the credit to be given where it is due. lukaku scores a header and wins the game for everton and some1 takes a dig at him saying "born to play for mid-table teams". and today he took another one, so that is when i quoted stats, and that is why i am saying, what use is his loan if what he does there does not mean anything? as for the other argument about lukaku struggling against solid defences, if torres can have 2 and a half year, ba can have half a year, and etoo can have 4 starts, then lukaku atleast warrants one professional start for CFC before we start saying he cant do this or do that.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/13/mesut-ozil-didnt-have-strength-to-fight-for-real-madrid-place-says-zinedine-zidane-3982276/ http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1551302/zinedine-zidane-mesut-ozil-left-real-madrid-lack-fight want me to find more sites with the same news? seems people cant accept the truth, and since this was not the WC final and the fact that he dint head butt any reporter in the PC there, i think its safe to assume that zidane is right or due u think he loses his cool 24*7 because he lost his cool once. also i would rather accept what zidane says than the "FIBS AND STORIES" about how ozil wanted money but his dad blah blah blah...

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2013/09/12/4257164/ozil-lacked-strength-to-fight-for-a-place-claims-zidane and u should not disagree with somethin zidane says. infact i will take what zidane says over any "stories" of how he dint get money or things.

u got me wrong. i always wondered why u had such u soft spot for FT . thats is it.

so suddenly arsenal is better than chelsea. and pray tell me how did germany get better players than spain? just because they have won the CL? podolski still starts ahead of reus/gotze/muller whenever he is fit and that has got nothing to do, with him being being better than any of them. its what loew prefers. mata would not touch germany because he does not need to. he is a WC winner, EURO winner, CL and EL winner compared to what? copa del ray. but yes, ozil is better just because he is germany's no.10. (brilliant argument). and as a person above pointed out, does that make isco better than ozil???

he scored a goal against roma. tell me how many of them has torres, etoo and ba done that this season? tell me why could not they do that. when u r talking about a striker u have to be taking first into the consideration his goal. look at DD day before yesterday. his overall performance -POOR. but got a goal, got an assist. and gala went home with a point from turin. so yes, that is justified. deflection or no deflection. RM defended with numbers against us in that preseason???really?? do u remember the rambo goal? it was a pre-season match with pretty much their back 4 against our top 3.so lets not get ahead ourselves here. so now he cant handle the situation? ehhh??? because u saw him not play well in an international match, that is just great.well most belgians think kdb is better than hazard, lets agree to that too. did u see the newcastle game? what tactic do u think newcastle came with against everton in goodison park?but they were ripped apart by this guy, and his link up play with mirallas and barkley. and how conveniently u choose to ignore the milans-argument. simply not worth the time and effort

i have given the stats above. please do take a look. also bear in mind that ozil is "assisting" to CR while mata has to do that to torres. please tell me how ozil is a whole different level???

we were 0-1 down when torres was playing in the first half. we won the match 2-1 with lukaku on the pitch, with lukaku grabbing the winner. and somehow u r using that against lukaku. the real match, lukaku was poor. but i dont think u can even count RM for your argument. your argument is he struggles with teams that play DEEP. except for barca, i dont think any defensive plays higher. and in that match, he struggled to link up with eden and oscar. and dont forget it was lamps' first pre-season match and we were struggling badly in the first half. against ac milan, lukaku played the 2nd half when we were 1-0 up. i would like to jog your memory here a little. the 2nd half was totally open. with schurlle scoring in extra-time but missing some absolute sitters on the way. lukaku was pretty decent. and again, he played when we were countering. against inter milan lukaku was real good. i remember him hitting the post and creating chances. i dont know what u meant when u said he did NOTHING. we probably watched a lot of different games. as for the belgium argument, let me get this straight, we should not use lukaku's stats and performances for wba and everton but his substitute performance for belgium when he replaces benteke is a valid argument!!! seriously dont think thats fair. we can agree to disagree, but honestly speaking i dont mind agreeing with something that i disagree with IF i am actually wrong. i seriously doubt that is the case here. we are sending lukaku on loan to see if he has what it takes to lead a line, be the no.1 striker (and to develop/improve). and when he is showing us that he can score goals and actually win matches for a team, we are simply discrediting his work by saying "its not the same". then tell me what is the point of the loan itself? then just let him play for our under21/reserves team because they will play as many matches as everton would in a season (38 +1 carling cup+ 3? fa cup) + he can play all our carling cup, fa cup and ucl dead rubber matches.

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1193041476158/1330012508587/jugador/Jugador/Ozil.htm http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/84775/mesut-%C3%B6zil

i know. lukaku had to go to a loan. it was a reply to the @etarod (or some1) who has been on lukaku's case for sometime now. even after lukaku's first goal for everton (the header), he took a cheap shot at him, saying, "some players are born to play for mid-table clubs". after his 2nd dig today. i simply could not control myself.

how do u know??? he has played 3 games with us this season, all as subs.lets take a look, at what point he has played for us 2-0 against hull city, when hull city were actually looking better than us except for the first 15 minutes. 2-1 against villa, brought in to waste time and counter rather than break a defence that was playing deep. 2-1 against bayern munich with 10 men and barely even looking to attack. if u making this statement on his pre-season performance, then he has 5 goals when we were trying to break down teams compared to i think 0 each from torres and ba. so how r u and most of the people here, making that assumption is beyond me.

for the sake of comparison, lets do it, ozil : games played assists goals scored 2010-11 : 53 25 10 2011-12 : 52 24 07 2012-13 : 52 29 10 overall 157 78 27 mata : 2011-12 : 54 20 12 2012-13 : 64 35 20 overall : 118 55 32 so goals ozil is involved in is 105 in 157 matches at 0.67 goals/match for RM for mata it is 87 goals in 118 matches at 0.73 goals/match for CHELSEA, so make what u have to of it. ps - by the way is any of u think that is unfair, lets take mata's 2010-11 season with valencia 43 games played, 9 goals scored and 15 assists. so it changes to 111 in 161 at 0.69 goals/match. still better than ozil's. ENJOY!!!!

as much as i agree with what u WANT to say, the example u have given is not the most apt one. welbeck just sucks man...

i actually dont remember the debate but do get the point u r making. flash is a "she"??? ooohhh... well that explains a lot...

critisize??? people were too chicken to even state their opinion. when he gave his idiotic version of squad comparision, people actually agreed with it. i remember @flash got in a fight with him over cech and de gea comparision, and instead of backing our own fan and backing what should be a fact, people actually sided with that cunt. was un-believable. ps-i ll ignore the rest of my post because it seems u have some issues with cicero