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he has been consistently average in almost every game until last night. the level of at which mikel is "consistently" playig is not the level that is expected of our players, and the fact that he is being displaced by a 35 year old lamps at his own game, for his own spot goes on to say a lot. and please dont use this "mikel get the stick for no reason" thing. have a look at the FL thread. look at people having a go at him. people here (except for phil, obviously) have given mikel the benefit of the doubt plenty of times before but he has almost always failed to deliver.

but it does leave us with a big conundrum. lets have a look at our pivot options rambo lamps essien mikel mvg. mvg is gone for sure till the end of the season. essien is finished and should not even be considered for cup ties as they are better used in ake/chalobah's development. that leaves us with only 3 options and if we buy a DM,lets say we buy sven bender, this has to be a straight forward and clear as a crystal indication to mikel that his chelsea career is over. which means, he will leave. that effectively leaves us with just rambo-lamps pivot to be played in the CL no matter what. not a situation we would want ourselves to be in.

please dont. would be a great favor to the 2 of us.

consistent in what dude?? giving 6/10 performances!!! i know you are a mikel fan but give credit where its due. ramires has been one of our POTY so far. only players i can think ahead of him would be oscar and probably hazard. he has consistently been giving 8/10 performances and even on a bad day he makes most of it up thru his running and tackling. to compare rambo's performances this season to that put up by mikel and to say that mikel has been more consistent, is nothing short of blashpemy for me!!!

i just hope rambo is not a member of this forum and never reads this cos he would just end up killing himself.

why the hell is the smiley which depicts a person hitting his head on the wall, not available to me. cos this situation is exactly like that. what have i been saying??? we line up as 4-2-3-1 but considering at what happens on the pitch we change to 4-3-3. there have been many matches where we have remained 4-2-3-1 or even gone to 4-1-4-1 when in attack mode. but it still does not change the FACT that we line up as 4-2-3-1. that is our base formation. players thruout 90 minutes do not maintain the same position. this is not foosball where the plastic players are pretty much hinged and cant move. so for the last time, our base formation is 4-2-3-1, which can become 4-1-4-1 or 4-3-3 according to the situation in the match. its like talking to a child.

still waiting for your reply to TOPTB...

u know, u r treading down a dangerous road. lets just leave it at "luiz was great last night, and i hope he continues this for chelsea's sake".

we were over-run, out played by BM. we needed 10 men behind the ball,but does that change how we were set up to play??? do u know how , i actually dont have a word to describe, u sound??? a lot of things can happen differently on the pitch. we even got outplayed in a match by brentford and even in that match needed 10 men to defend. does that change how we set our selves to play in that match. being defensive is DIFFERENT, than saying that chelsea used a formation of 10-0-0. just like our main argument of 4-2-3-1 turning into a 4-3-3 cos mikel/rambo/lamps are not able to feed the ball to the AMs, hence oscar/mata have to come deep into our own half to get the ball. does that change what formation we play? NO. get it????? ii m not a regular at the bluemoon forum so forgive me if i think some chelsea fan would even like to go there. LOL

chelsea played a 4-2-3-1 formation in the CL final but it was a defensive 4-2-3-1 with the 2 pivot players almost as deep as the CBs, the 2 wide players, trying to support the full backs and with only mata and DD trying to push ahead with the ball. your knowledge is at asenine level. i say what i speak. i am no glory nunter like u who likes to trend the forum of the team that is winning. keep trolling.

just cos i dint say that gustavo played DM does not mean i dint know. i ONLY TALKED ABOUT THE FINAL not the whole season. what an ass!!! your undeerstandign of the game is tremondous, continue trolling... cos i cant understand how some1 being a chelsea fan cant see how deep exactly lamps is playing and what role he has this season. If anyone is their cam with silva out, its Nasri. by the way this was your statement a few posts before. as i said, continue trolling

amen to that bro...

watch atleast one match and then quote me dude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cUg4N4k9OM this is the highlights of the city-united game, watch it, tell me where nasri is playing, on the left or central and if u still think its central, then go and kill urself. also atleast get your bloody stats right before simply saying whatever comes to your mind. negredo has 10 starts and 4 subs appearances in the league in 15 matches. http://espnfc.com/team/squad/_/id/382/league/eng.1/manchester-city?cc=4716 LAMPS is the shield. but he is not mikel or maka. a shield does not mean that all u have to do in 90 minutes of the match is simply guard the back-4. for eg - in the bayern vs chelsea CL final that was played, bastian-kroos played in the pivot with robben-muller-ribery ahed of them, and in that pivot kroos played the box-to-box role where as bastian played the DM role, but that dint mean that bastian dint involve himself in the attack.

i dint mean it that way dude. the guy who i quoted was saying that lamps does the running while rambo simply acts as a shield. i just countered him. and hope all your calculations are right.

as much as i would like to ged rid of him, i seriously doubt if it condusive to do so. whoever we buy in his place would be cup-tied for the CL games which means we would have only rambo-lamps pivot for the CL nights. essien is finished, mvg is injured and we truly dont have an option but to keep him till the end of the season so as to atleast have an option of having a DM in CL except for rambo-lamps. also i think the first one to be shown the door should be essien. he can be let go, bring in pogba/bender(s)/witsel to play in the PL while hope lamps can do the job in CL.

when rambo and lamps play together it is ALWAYS rambo who does the running and lamps who acts as a shield. for eg- the man city game where rambo was the far more mobile one compared to lamps who just put in tacles. what u r saying is the exact opposite and is making no sense what so ever. for city it is -------fernandinho------------ ---------------------yaya------------ navas---------aguero----------nasri ----------negredo---------------

i would take leverkusen (not cos they are 3rd in bundesliga but cos of the way they performed against united) ahead of zenit. a round trip to russia always result in dropping of points in the league. for me olympiacos are the best option, then gala, then kusen, zenit and milan (in that order). and considering we would have DD playing at SB again, i would not mind gala one bit.

all u have said is the same thing but just ina different way. i just explained to u why lamps and oscar play on the same line a lot of time. also, city lines up as 4-2-3-1 with aguero playing behinf negredo rather than along side him. also ther have been matches where fernandinho has been involved ina lot of attcking. for eg - norwich, spurs, whu, etc. he is been called a "flop" so far cos he has been un-influential in defence and attack specially when compared to some1 like toure.

no, i am not missing your point, but u r missing mine. u cant compare how chelsea play against sunderland, stoke and then extrapolate that to see where we would lie in among the top teams. those are big nights, with players giving more than their 100%, trying to put their best efforts. as i said before if u want to compare how we will fare against the top teams, then use our matches against them as an example. we were not among the best in 2012 too, but that dint stop us from winning the CL.

why RM? i feel they have the weakest defence among all the 8 seeded teams. as much as i have seen RM, they dont have a play and just realy on the wingers getting maximum purchase against the full-backs. i really doubt that RM is as strong as people make them out to be. in all honesty, ATM are a much better team than them.

chelsea vs gala united vs schalke bayern vs milan barca vs city real vs arsenal (ozil effect) ATM vs leverkusen PSG vs zenit BVB vs olympiacos quarter-finalists: chelsea, united, bayern, city, arsenal, ATM, PSG, BVB.

to be fair to united, they wee aweomse on the night.

first things first, i dont think we were lucky. the amount of half chances we had, if we were lucky we would have scored 3 atleast. i would like to see chelsea playing awesome football and all that but not if it directly interferes with our result. we are playing a 35 year old CM as a DM and his partner in the pivot was mikel who was hopeless last night. when we play the free-flowing game, our midfield tends to lose control of the match and we tend to concede some goals. yesterday was not a match to take any chances. it was to get back to the basics and just win. as for top teams, we played one name in that list and literally gave them hell. we were 1 scond away from beating them. the difference in class is not much. infact i feel the only difference would be in consistency rather than the actual class.

full throttle like whu, soton, stoke game!!! that would be full throttle attacking performances. LOL!!! well this is the difference between us. u have a guideline of nots that chelsea should do (erratic passing, struggling to penetrate etc)... while i just wanted us to get back to winning ways after the energy sapping match against stoke.