didierforever

Yes seriously. People want a matoc-luiz pivot and not without a reason. We looked really good with those 2 against city. Very dynamic, very strong and our play was fluid. Anyways how luiz is in mid is not the point here. After dropping a couple of points, people are bound to go OTT. Go and have a look at the matvh thread. You would think that apocalypse was on us. So some are bound to be a little critical. As for others, its the replies by "younameit" and company that keep the ball rolling. People would love to move on but instead they are made to look ridiculous with scapegoat arguments. And that is what leads to all those things been written.

The worst thing is the attitude of the fans here. Chelsea concede to liverpool when suarez geta ahead of iva. Everyone blames iva and people move on. JT screws up a pass (I think he did that twice in agame), people say he was at mistake and move on. But god forbid if any one has the fucking balls of blaming luiz EVER. Then suddenly its a case of scapegoating. Or as I read above " it always cones down to luiz". Always??? So people saud that luiz was to blame for the pool goal or the united goal??? All I have read on thia forum for the past month is that DL has been tremondous in mid for us but how fucking dare people critisize him. Cos he can do no wrong, ever!!!! Right?? The fans who make the scapegoat argument is one kind and the other kind are the philosophers. Who think people don't understand the different kinds of defending techniques and realize how beautiful defending is and blah blah blah... I dint know that letting a striker getting ahead of you to score a bloody goal is another technique of defending. Just bloody accept that he made a mistake and move on!!!!

Now we can rest players. HAZARD and willian shiuld be anywhere near the pitxh. Same goes for etoo and matic. Oscar needs to regain his form. Cole will surely get a match. GC shiuld be rested too. Schwarzer Azpi DL JT AC RAMBO mikel Salah osxar schurrle Torres. A draw would be good enough for me but think with city playimg barca 3 days later and barelt 3 days after their matxh against Sunderland, expect them to make whole sale changes.

U forgot the "its not continental enough , there are different ways to defend than just the english way argument".

So Gc and It start abiut 10 matxhes together and concede one goal against pool thru set piece and another to united when everyone was cruising thru. All this while no team put in a "perfext cross" or no striker made a perfect run. But luiz comes in and the stars align and that one moment of magic happens. Oh definitely!!!! Poor luiz... never at fault for anyyhing ever. He is simply PERFECT!!!

5 yards out dude. That is how close iva could get. Letting berahino go goal side or even cross to the near post would have been far worse options.

TC flow chart Did we win - Yes - post we are the best team in the world. Did we win - No - blame mikel even though he woukd be person least at fault.

at the start of the season, yes. Recently hell no. U can look at the city match, the newcastle match.

First of all "dreadful error"??? Did he let ridgewell walk the ball in the net??? He let berahino cross the ball into a box full of xhelsea shirts. If the goal is anyone's fault then it luiz's for lwtting victor get ahead of him so easily. Or more so of letting such a big gap develop betweeb him and GC..Berahino got the ball and shifted it to his right foot and that is when iva got into position. Iva in tring to pressure berahino and losinf out to him would have led to a 2 on 1 with mikel and a much worse situati on than we were in.

Jose's gonna be MAD!!!!

iva was running towards berahino. He was atleast 5 yards off him when he got the touch and iva made the decision to stand back. Can't say it was wrong cos GC was not moving and if betraying had gone past him, Gc would not have been able to cover for iva. There was no way iva could have tried to stop the cross withiut being exposed. A lob into the box with 2cbs seened a better option for him.

GC came in after going our injured. Iva qas filling his role as a CB. Wheb GC came in the ball was towards our lesr flank. Iva had to run half the length of the field tonclose berahino down cos for some reasob GC simlly dint move (maybe really injured). Blaming iva for this is not fair.

Did we lose the title already. We got a draw and a point against wba who have taken points off pool, everton, went 3-0 down to city ended the gane 3-2 and probably should have taken a point then too. People complaining that we got complacent need to take a look at the the teams they had mentioned and resting all the players. The players were up for it but credit to wba who defended well and were unlucky to go 1-0 behind. They put us undera lot of pressure in the last 20 and we simply coukd not get out of our box. With arsenal playing united, pool away to fulham, we are still right at the top. These results against relegation threatened sides are bounf to hapoen. All this crazy talk and bashing is simply isiotic. Cech- decent game. Dint have much to do until the goal was conceded. Should have handled the iva situation better though. 7/10 Azpi- a very good performance. Did what he does best. Intercepting a lot of passes. Putting the winger under lot of pressure. 8/10 Luiz- very poor performance. Simply could not handle anichebe. Could have given a penalty for shirt pulling. Shiuld have closed the gap down with GC which ultimately led to a goal. He seriously needs to step up in defence. 5/10 Gc - solid performnce until the injury. It was his coming in from the injury whixh made iva run half the length of the field to close berahino down for the cross. Cant blame him tjough. Just unlucky. Hope the injuty is not seroous cos that would be devastating. 8/10 Iva- good match. Good goal. Was solid defensively too. Should have controlled his temper better coa after that incident we simply loat all control 7/10 Matic - Motm for me. Won infinite balls. Intercepted another infinite plays. Just a perfect performance. 9/10 Rambo- flop of the day for me. What has happened to him for the past month. Has been shambolic. Today he was worae than shambolic. He messed up atleast 3 counters cos of his poor firat touch. Simply was not up for it. 4/10 Willian - decent performance. Should have done so much better on a number of occasions. Final passes just were not good enough. Corners were a disgrace as usual. His workrate was his only saving grace. 6/10. Oscar- another uncreative performance. For all hia workrate and playing into a system, I m sorry to say but chelsea's no.1 CAM shiuld be creating a lot more than this. Was totally off his game. That HAZARD pass which he took a big touch exemplified his perfomance. Not good enough. 6/10 Hazard- a good game. Was marked by 2 players all the time. Produxed some good runs and pases like the one to oscar or the run where rambo found him over the wba defence. He shiuld have done much better in thw counter where torrea and rambo were in the box. Dilly dallied too much on the ball then. 7/10 Etoo- good hold up play. Brilliantl link up play. Seemed the moat likely to score or create. Good performance. 7/10 Subs Torres - should have got a goal with his first touch had hazard passed the ball. But overall dint so anythin cos we were simply too deep. Mikel- jose probably missed a trixk here. With us anyways as deep as we were, bringing mikel on was just asking for rrouble. Can't it was his doing though. We were panicking long before he was subbed. Salah- not much to do. Thiugh a good run behins rhe defence. He will take time to settle in. In the end it was a fair result. Can't say wba dint deserve a point. Today's performance showed exavtly how important JT is for nunerous reasons.

JT for DL and without a doubt this is our beat team. Hoping for a solid performance.

robben would be ONE of our best players but it was not like the bale-tottenham thing. Infact I am sure that if madrid try to do to us what they did to tottenham by influencing the player and all, ROMAN and the board woukd never take it lying down. It will be a different ball game aktogether

Ita almost like thia forum goes thru phases. Add to that the band wagon of opinion and it just gets silly and frustrating. I remember at the start of the season he was our no.1 striker, who was single handedly supposed to take us to a different footballing level. When he was loaned, it was supposedly a horrid mistake and the jose out chants were on. When he was banging goals for fun at the start, every member including me and every pundit said that chelsea made a mistake. Now, injured for 2 weeks and with etoo playing well, suddenly people think that one of the best prosoects in the world to be sold. I mean what the fucking hell!!!

we have never ever sold any of our best players to either of those clubs. And believe me, we never will.

Argentina In the world cup final? ?? Hehegegegeg... that's actually funny

This.To say that it was a PR stunt is character assassination. Cant believe people actually daid that and even meant it.

I heard somewhere that fiorentina were willing to pay 5/6mil for flabby anderson. Mikel on the other hand (despite his limitations and deficiencies) is a very decent footballer. Nothing less than 12mil I would say. Even meireles went for 8. Moreover he is still only 26.

depends on what the manager might want. I remember RDM making 9 changes for the arsenal game after the fitst leg against barca. And that was PL. This is a cup game.

rodwell and milner. Garcia is coming back I think.

And that's why we are all glad that we have mou doing all this mind game plays. U reaally really really need to understand what mou has done here. He has played the long con. Since the start of the seaeon, he has vehemently asserted that city are the favourites to win the title race. Somehow he has made sure that it looks like city are the awesone power gods and we are the hapless mortals. He has made sure that it seems like we are the underdogs (or a little horse to be preciae) while city are a record setting stallion. He has made it look like we are punching above our weight and who does not love an underdog. The best thing is that while pele ignored him for 5 months, he not just replied but literally took on mou just days after city's firat hone PL loss, thus mKing him look bitter and desperate. Just genius, is not it? On the ither hand, if mou ridicules moyes and united (who are anyways a media favourite), he ends up gaining nothing at all while losing the tag of the media darling. Just basic psychology. And mou is a master of that.so keep calm and enjoy the mou

This guy has blue blood. That one thing is sure

pele would have go be a special kind of idiot to play toure against us 3 days before thwir match against barca