Tomo

Very true, next step for agent Moyes, RVP and Kagawa out, Osman and Anichebe in

Thats what i thought, then in came David Moyes trying to replace on of the worlds finest coaches with Phil fucking Neville :lol: In player terms that is like getting rid of Hazard and trying to bring in Adam Johnson to replace him.

Not that im complaining but Moyes seems to be getting shot of valuable staff members to bring his own in. I mean ffs he is trying to replace Muelensteen one of the brightest coaches around with Phil Neville that makes Rafa's decision to swap Newton with Zenden look like a stroke of genius in comparison.

------------------------------------------------------Cech------------------------------------------------------- Ferreira-------------------------Ivanovic----------------------Terry-----------------------------------Cole ----------------------------------------------------Mikel--------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------Essien-------------------Lampard---------------------------------------- --------------Anelka-----------------------------------------------------------------Malouda----------------- -----------------------------------------------------Torres------------------------------------------------------ This team will win us the league next season imo.

Player of the season : Bale Young player of the season : Hazard Best transfer of the season : Van Persie Worst transfer of the season : Samba Best managerial appointment of the season : Clarke Worst managerial appointment of the season : Goal of the season : Chalobah vs Watford Overachieving team of the season : Yeovil (had the smallest budget in league one but still got promoted) Underachieving club of the season : QPR Best match of the season : WBA 5-5 United Best moment of the season : Lampard Complaint of the season : Clattenburg

Liverpool start playing well when the pressure is off when the top four/title is over. Then at the end they think there get it (top 4 or title) next year. Rinse and repeat.

I mean if they start the season with that team above, i was comparing it to the team's Mou had to beat in that season, and the Arsenal team of 2004 comes out better.

There not better than the Arsenal Jose had to see off the first time.

Sorry misread i thought you said he would never play in either competition at all not never get far in one. Monaco will be in the CL soon, tbh it's only a matter of time.

Wrong He played in the Champions League in 2009/2010 Him in action against Arsenal, a match he went on to score the winner in.

Liverpool are welcome to take him on loan. But then again they would be effectively admitting their reduced status of today by doing that. It was probably the reason they didn't take Danny on loan when we signed Torres and signed Carroll instead, Liverpool loaning a player (especially a young one) from Chelsea is the equivalent off admitting their not the force they were, something the deluded fuckers can't bring themself's to do

Im sorry but how on this earth has Torres performed better than Ba in the league? he took 4 months after Ba's arrival to even score in the PL (which backs up my theory that Fernando winces at the face of the slightest bit of competition). Domestically since Ba's arrival, Demba has scored 6 (two of them against the Manc clubs) while Torres has scored 3 (two of which against lower league opposition in the FA Cup). Atleast like with Choulo said with Ba we have a target man that occupies defenders and makes space, defenders can't ignore him and focus on the amigo's like they do with Torres. Ba has not had the desired effect no question about that, but he is by some considerable distance better than Torres. His 'performance' at Anfield is still giving me nightmares. But the clear fact is neither should be number one forward next season, so who would be more suitable for the role as a squad player? for many reason's that would be Ba. He won't sulk when a superior forward is on the field, he is on less wages and quite frankly is a better player.

Torres is hit a semi decent run of form in a competition Ba can't even play in, domestically Ba has been head and shoulders better than Torres. That's not saying how good Ba is just how crap Torres is. The guy is finished he use to be one of the best, now he is just an Akinfenwa without stength (and no that isn't even tongue in cheek). Ba would be a decent 2nd/3rd option, Torres should be playing in League Two.

Furthermore, Ricardo Carvalho (another one of the Mourinho loyalist's) has clocked up 16 La Liga games in two season's. Further evidence that people are just being paranoid.

Because Hazard and Oscar are better than any of the players in our academy, can you imagine where we would have finished if we "gave Kakuta a chance" instead of signing Hazard? The reason Jose used little youth last time is because they were shit, infact the one semi decent one (Robert Huth) Jose used 36 times in two season's. Now when you consider Huth isn't actually that good, had injury problems and we had arguably at the time the three best centre half's in the Premier League infront of him, i would say the fact he wrapped up those amount of appearances was a minor miracle. That's because Barca have strong youth players, upto a couple of years ago we haven't had that for a long time.

He played 20 times in La Liga, most of them off the bench or at right back, he very rarely started in midfield. If you think him or Lamps will play because Jose has a touch of nostalgia your being over paranoid.

No, if players are good enough, they make it, simple. When Iniesta was 20, he was still to properly break into the Barca team and saw them sign Deco, in theory that should have blocked his path, but did it?

How exactly?

Selling Ba and keeping Torres makes no sense whatsoever, especially if Cavani and Lukaku return. Ba would be prepared to fight for his place and/or be a squad player where as Torres would just sulk. Further more Ba is better than Torres and to be honest im stunned it's even debatable, the double standard when it comes to those two are crazy.

From what i have heard he will be a good signing for us, but what we must do is balance this out with some experience this summer. De Rossi and Di Maria would be the perfect examples.

@BlueLyon, If they get Eriksen that will go a long way to replace Gotze and if his time with Wolsburg is anything to go by, Dzeko will be more than capable of doing the buisness back in the Bundesliga. If BVB buy well this summer it won't be a one horse race in Germany next season, believe me.

If Watford want to keep him, he should spend another season there. There's no real rush for him, is there?

Im jealous of whoever gets the pleasure of locking this.

Every one seems to think Bungesliga next year is a forgone conclusion (with good reason i guess). Am i the only one that thinks (if Klopp buys good to replace those two) they could surprise a few people? As was alluded to above Klopp will be pretty hurt by what Gotze and Lewa have done, he will be more determined than ever to win it. They have a good enough team even without those two, if they get Eriksen/KDB and scout well for Lewa's replacement, they could just surprise every one. Don't write Dortmund off just yet.

He appears a player who doesn't have much confidence in himself. As a teenager he was outstanding, i really thought he could have been a fixture here, but he doesn't seem to be able to shrug mistakes off and get on with it, he started well against Newcastle in the CC, then gave away that Fk that led to a goal and was a wreck for the rest of the match, and any other time he played for us. He's got the ability but seems more mentally fragile than Torres.