Tomo

What is funny is there was a flock of people on the Falcao board and even Cavani bringing this he will be another Torres shit up, yet the most likely transfer to be another Torres is this one, infact im seeing alarming similarities. Rooney last season reminded me of Torres in 09/10, still scoring but there were some real signs of decline then we get linked with him. To answer TOPTB question can player decline as early as 27? ofcourse infact even earlier, do you remember that blonde whore that's still leaching off our club? we signed him at TWENTY SIX years off age. If it came down to £53m Cavani or £30m Rooney then the Uraguay wins every time, and don't bring this "well Rooney's PL proven" remember when we signed PL proven Torres over Aguero?

He was, just like Torres was.

tbh if our manager doesn't have a track record of giving players extreme confidence i would say give Josh another loan, but i really feel Jose can get something out of him.

Maybe England should do the bootroom approach? Manager's go up the age groups until they find their way into the main team, it might be the first baby steps to transforming the English coaching system and prevent dinosaurs like Pearce and Roy finding themself's in the hot seat. You can imagine Cole and Lamps having a little bit of a culture shock next season, after three/four weeks playing under the worlds best manager they then leave for a week to be managed by Roy Hogsdon. Its actually quite funny when you think about it, Its like spending three weeks in Canary Island's followed by one week in North Korea.

Hopefully he is just saying that, because he did say something like "if its right for Torres to stay" or something along them lines. Don't believe him with what he said tho, he said winning the title in 2005 would be extremely difficult in public then in the dressing room moments later he was telling the players the match we were winning it in.

Roy Hogsdon and Stuart Pearce are the men in charge of England at the moment and preparing them for the future. That is a truly terrifying thought.

Please please please let Pearce go back to City this summer

please don't do this Jose

Can someone take the -91 out of my name, por favor.

No if he wants a stepping stone, then im sure he would be more than welcome at The Emirates.

If United signed KDB and Courtois and sent them out on genius loan spells that doubled or possibly trebled their value, we would be wanking over their board and slating our board for not doing something similar. Our board has done a fantastic job (there you go ive said it) changing us from one of the most ageing and stale teams to one of the most youthful teams with shit loads of potential in 2 years.

Tbh he was open to that last time, but the problem was the youth were injured constantly (Hutchinson) or shit (Huth).

How long is it likely to last for? i have to go somewhere at half 2

Maniche was only a loan, Jarosik is one however.

My bad, i saw Torres was the main topic of discussion even in this thread and thought u were joining in on that

Under that theory we should give Essien another chance to prove he can get back to his old self, when a player is finished they are finished. Why does near enough every single Chelsea fan accept Essien is done yet some still harbour this false hope for Torres? Torres either leaves or plays a Kaka style bit part role.

I have a strong feeling we are heading to The Emirates first and i can't shake it off. WHS will know.

Has he retired or is he open to offers from clubs next season? If so, i think offering him a one year deal makes sense. Home grown, will be happy to be back up and is a pretty decent back up, class above what we had previously. Its all good saying we should promote two academy goallies but the two deputies imo should be one youth and one experience, so Harper and Blackman would be the right mix to understudy Cech next term.

I would actually take Harper on a 1 year deal.

Off topic but when i was away i was speaking to a Real Madrid fan about the time we smashed Arsenal 3-0 at The Emirates and told him about how after the match Wenger, Cesc and co were trying to claim the moral victory because of their "football", his first response? yes you guessed it he said "Barcelona are the same".

Agreed but in reality he is likely to be number 3 for the mean time beihnd someone experienced (Schwarzer has been mentioned) then as time goes on they will probably switch similar to Hilario and Turnbull.

He cannot be in the squad next season. Either we find a suitor for him and he leaves for good, or we find him a club to go to on loan who will pay half of his wages, a move like that will save us £5m next year, which could pay for a squad player or a talented young player somewhere in the globe.

We would have to pay over the odds to get him anyway and not just over the odds in the sense we may have to pay a little bit more like say for Cavani (even tho he will be worth it) or did for say David Luiz, i mean ridiculously over the odds. Arsenal not only have first refusal but would get 50% of any transfer fee if he goes to a club that isn't Arsenal, so assuming Barca won't want to make a loss we would have to pay upwards of £70m. Just won't happen, and he won't be going Man.Utd for the very same reason.