Gappy

I'm sorry but I wouldn't want him anywhere near this club again. Second time around was bad enough, and the last thing we need right now is more shite and mud slinging.
Hes' lost his identity now, he's been surpassed and found out by teams and coaches.

Blame it on the board. 

Overall Liverpool is above us, but we could do much better tonight.
United is on same level as us though, but I bet we will look clueless again. "Sarriball" apparently, but they will roll all over us until they score and then we will wake up for a bit, Sarri brings on Barkley and another defeat.
I have nothing against a loss if that means development for the future and brings positive to the whole picture. What was positive here? Where were hints of "Sarriball" that will bring us to next level? Klopp was in same boat in the beggining, but at least he played entertaining football and while their defence was shite, they had clear plan forward and needed reinforcements at the back. We play like crap bar couple games and we still lose left and right or barely scrap one goal wins.
We are shit in everything. No attack plan, except for pass it to Hazard. No defensive stability because as soon they press us harder, we look completely clueless. Midfield is nonexistent and lacks any dynamic or creativity. 
We played conte esque bunker tonight. Almost whole season after Sarri arrival. Where is any development of better playstyle? And dont tell me we dont have players because Klopp managed to play entertaining football with Henderson, Moreno, Wijnaldum and other "average" players. 
Last but not least, for a football under attacking manager, i havent seen such shite attacking organisation. Forget the goals or wins. Check Guardiola, Klopp even in their first seasons etc when they attack, there is chance left and right. When we attack, we manage to do it for 5-10 min and thats it. Then all creativity, determination just dissapears and we rely on individual quality in Hazard.
When he leaves, we are fucked for at least 2 seasons.
(And this isnt just based on tonight performance, but whole season). 
All Sarri "realised" is that we apparently cant compete with top dogs unless we park the bus. Duh, we knew that years now. But he was brought to create attacking football. I would understand loss after loss if our phylosophy actualy developed on pitch, if we became more connected in attack, but there is zero improvement since november and we play even worse than first couple months.

I see a lot of people claiming that Sarri got the game plan "right" in the 1st half because it was only 0-0. First off, how far we have fallen. Secondly, its simply not true.
Nothing about "Sarri-ball" was seen in the 1st half.
We couldn't deal with their press as we couldnt pass out from the back.
Sarri had no answer to Jorginho getting man marked
We couldn't build any attacks of note.
Hazard could barely get into the game and was contesting balls with centre backs. He was getting crowded out.
Liverpool were the better team in the 1st half contrary to what Ashley Cole said. It was only a matter of time before their pressure told.
Sarri didn't get anything right. In one of Hazard's last games for the club and a chance to deny these bastards the title, he fucks it up with his insane false 9 fantasy. Someone needs to tell him he's not Guardiola and never will be.

Not even angry or annoyed, really. Liverpool are a class above us right now so we were never going to come here and win when they're absolutely desperate to win.
For weeks if not months we've known that it's all about the EL. Hope for the best in the PL but hope is all it is.
The thing that really pisses me off is how just a couple of years ago we were laughing at and making fun of Liverpool. We were miles ahead of them. In such a short time they've eclipsed us and can laugh at us instead. And the gap will likely get bigger once Eden leaves.

At Chelsea, Mourinho preferred Oscar as he wanted balance in the midfield.  (He already had Hazard in terms of creativity)
At United, he needs Mata as they don't really have anyone else capable of the creative spark. (Rooney's on the decline, Miki is still adapting and Martial is injured atm)

Problem is ... will the Board has same vision like Conte has now ?

Tbh, if Matic, Ivanovic and Cahill will be forced out of the team because of yesterday's result, I'm happy that the game turned out as it did. Ever since the game against Spurs during 14/15 season, I've been hoping that they get sacked. It's finally happening and we are finally going to fix a problem that has been there for 2 (!!) years.

This man does not deserve to be questioned, getting shit from the fans or ultimately getting axed.
 
He got butt fucked by Roman and the board for not getting his most desired transfertargets. Our team, most of them, are utter SHIT and he needs to work with them ans so he is fucked. Pep, Mou, Koeman, Fergusson, Zidana, RaFACT whoever would have failed with Iva and Cahill (and Luiz) in that Arsenal match.

Chelsea Board : Keep paying huge money for sack a manager and extend contact a dog shit players.
So no budget for good players. What a brilliant management
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Chelsea Board : Keep paying huge money for sack a manager and extend contact a dog shit players.
So no budget for good players. What a brilliant management
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Chelsea Board : Keep paying huge money for sack a manager and extend contact a dog shit players.
So no budget for good players. What a brilliant management
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Chelsea Board : Keep paying huge money for sack a manager and extend contact a dog shit players.
So no budget for good players. What a brilliant management
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Chelsea Board : Keep paying huge money for sack a manager and extend contact a dog shit players.
So no budget for good players. What a brilliant management
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Chelsea Board : Keep paying huge money for sack a manager and extend contact a dog shit players.
So no budget for good players. What a brilliant management
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Ive always felt top 4 was a fight for us this season, i was getting annoyed when othets talked like we are title contenders. 
First things first, Conte is a great manager. His league form with Juve showed that and the way he took a below average Italy team to neutralise Spain and Belgium made me think he is as good as Mourinho, Guardiola and Simeone if he was different. I think he's as capable as the first 2 with a good team . . . 
But we dont have a good team. We had the whole of last season to show us that. Kantr is the only first team change (until Luiz) remember. That's not enough to bridge the gap against the bigger teams. Matic and Oscar are not good enough. Period. Fabregas is unable to play the way Conte wants to play - he just doesnt have the legs! 
Our defence is on stand by until Zouma returns, and even then we are hoping he comes back as good as he was. Then theres more hope than expectation that Alonso is good enough. Only then can we finally escape Ivanovic and Cahill. 
But our wingers and midfielders are toothless. Willian runs with the ball until the final third and then nothing happens. We know this. Hazard is world class but does not have a good enough shot or final pass. We know this. Matic is a headless chicken defensively (and a lazy one in the first half today). Heck, the only reason Oscar is starting for us in midfield is because he can RUN. Thats his ace card. As a professional footballer he can run (that may pass as a second striker/ no 10, but as a CM he has no intelligence in pressing and leaves so much room. 
So that is what Conte is dealing with. A midfield of Kante and two crap players that have to make up for each others faults. A winger that is only good when the game is quick enough so he doesnt think and the other which is world class except the all important final touch. 
I dont doubt Conte, but he wont work this miracle. If Alonso comes in to kick Ivanovic out, we would still need to fix the gaping holes that are Oscar and Matic. Until then, judge Conte as he should be judged, with a team that finished 10th last season plus a quality midfielder. 
 
 

Logic of this place.
The young Belgium that stayed: every time he makes a mistake moan about how we shouldn't have sold Cech and sometimes even more laughably how we should drop him for Begovic.
The two young Belgium we sold: moan every time they score about how we don't stick by young players then whinge some more when one of them is linked with a return.

Why are some throwing Guardiola and his youth integration to be so successfull?  
Who signed Caceres as well, wasn't Pep? Who signed 24 years old Cesc Fabregas and snubed Thiago? Surely Pep. Who signed 34m. and 22 years old chilian player Alexis Sanchez instead of promoting youth? Also Pep. (From barca forum)
His days at Bayern. Did he really promote their youth? I remember him buying several spaniards and dumping Kroos, even Muller among others.
Then comes City. How many of their youth will actualy play? And I dont mean the young players they sign for 30m who have great talent. Im talking about City academy. 
His time in barca and "youth integration" comes to one conclussion. It takes a fucking brillian players to succeed. Xavi, Iniesta, Pique etc were all world class potentials. I dont know why is Pep laying on that myth for ages to turn academy players to starters in every club.
If he was here; RLC, Solanke etc would get a chance if they proved themselves, not because of Pep. If your good enough you will play. Sadly our academy players are simply not good enough to play, be it under Pep, Conte or whoever else. 
Pep is good coach, but his work is incredibly overrated. He gets all the cash he wants to build his teams, replaces half of players, buys foreign talents instead of growing club ones and despite all that, he got tacticaly outdone for past 4 seasons in CL. His bayern squad got injured alot, despite apart from Robben and Thiago, they were not injury prone. That says something about his training too. 
In my eyes barca was lucky to have him, he got chemistry going on, but he has to be even more lucky to have had barca squad back then. 
Have some faith in Conte who's style actualy suits premier league, has plan b and is proven to take average team to great one.

David Luiz ??? Really 

Disagree, a lot. Aside from Kante I don't really see these excellent buys, considering without Champions League football Man Utd recruited Pogba, Zlatan, Bailly and Mkhitaryan. Think we left it far too late to address our LB & CB crisis, though they could turn to be excellent signings let's not be under any illusion they were plan z. Left it to the final 3 weeks of an already busy transfer window chasing the likes of Koulibaly, Romagnoli only to go back to PSG for Luiz. Not knocking Luiz, but it's more than evident he was a last resort lmao. 
They salvaged deadline day by going for targets that weren't going to be a massive loss for the club in Alonso and Luiz, though I'll give them credit for capturing both at a fee below £40m which seems to be the average.
IMO, they should've had this wrapped up weeks ago rather than 2 games into the season with little-to-no time to adapt.

I feel really sorry for Conte. The board has let him down already...

I hate that I have to keep saying these negative things about all these players because we have lots of very good memories with them. I wouldn't even mind if they were squad players for us but they should not be starting. Unfortunately the club persists with these selections until the players become villains in the eyes of the fans. Ivanovic is WAY past it.

We knew that from December.
Why wait till only one week left of the transfer window?