LDN Blue

I heard today Arsenal were attempting to make a move? Who knows. Never mind. That was Aleksandar Mitrovic..

Major flaw of the loan system. Clubs need to keep an eye on how much game time/progress loanees are making and should exercise options to recall them if it's been perceived as a waste of time.

The problem is keeping hold of these players. We can offer them as many lucrative contracts as we want, to try and keep them with us, but the longer it takes the club to bring through someone, the more disillusioned these guys are going to get. I don't think it's accurate to claim it's come 'leaps and bounds' because we have no proof. No-ones benefited.

I'm not saying he should be "world-class" by now. I'm saying the club has failed to help him improve his ability. They've shipped him out, with great reluctance initially, and it seems as if he's not being considered a player who will be involved in the main squad this season with the amount of transfers we're being linked with. These players were being nurtured internally and going on loan in places that needed these type of players. When we sent Josh to Swansea it was an awful decision, he was never going to displace those guys who were being compared to Xavi & Iniesta (LMAO) under Rogers. As I've explained before, Swansea was no place to send McEachran. He couldn't displace their midfield, it was impossible. Rogers didn't need McEachran when we sent him there and all he needed was the manager at Chelsea to back him. Do you know that under Carlo, Josh made 17 appearances for the club? At Swansea, the season after, he made 5. And he only made 5 when there was an injury to someone like Britton. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22738219 Chelsea, Manchester City, Wigan and Stoke are the only clubs that fielded 0 u21 players last season. We can forget about the rest because that's not what this discussion is about. Yes Manchester United paid £15million for Phil Jones, but we were always in the hunt to try and sign him as well. The point isn't even about fees paid, because if Josh wasn't a Chelsea player then he'd get signed for those sums too. We get excited over players like Luke Shaw while we have people like Ryan Bertrand on our books and then we complain. Because you have to understand that Josh has been with the club since he was a child. He's seen all these players come and go. He's seen the likes of Robert Huth, Michael Macinenne and Bruma having to move on because they got no chances in the Chelsea team. You want to know why? "Josh got his chance when Carlo was there, and played a few games under him. Now it's at a stage when the club is under pressure and the club need to play their big names and unfortunately there is not a place for him in the squad." - Chalboah said this. Even he recognizes that it's impossible to get into this squad if you don't have a value of more than £15million at Chelsea.

Unanimously rubbish? He's played 38 games for them. If anything, they've recognized his talent. There's no proof he's not good enough, the only proof that exists is that the club failed to nurture his raw talent, as they've done with most youth players since John Terry broke through.

I'm really disappointed with the club at the way McEachran hasn't been nurtured properly. I mean it's saying a hell of a lot when guys like Jordan Henderson, Jonjo Shelvey &, worst of all, Tom Cleverly were allowed time and patience at their respective clubs and saw the fruition of it. Henderson even went on record to say that McEachran was a technically better player than Jack Wilshere is. The club have a massive part to play in the damage done in not enhancing McEachran's career. There's no way Cleverly should be loaned out to a Premier League club like Wigan, when he was making his rise, and McEachran gets sent to Middlesbrough. Forgotten about. This argument isn't even about whether McEachran as an individual, it's not about his work ethic or anything. It's about the club willing to spend millions on other players, fringe players, and then send these kids away and not even keeping a track on them. It's embarrassing that Chelsea fielded 0 English u21's this season. We played guys like Benayoun in the center of midfield when we were short of numbers, while guys like Chalobah were making shockwaves in the Championship. But hey.. It's only the Championship right? The level of quality isn't Premier League etc, etc. The old cliches.

Except Moses is going to be replaced by Schurrle now, so...

I think you were right about Chalobah mate to be honest. I reviewed my opinions and I think you're right, especially after talking to a season ticket-Watford fan the other day. It's no surprise he's not starting v. Italy. Pearce is a buffoon. He was outshined by Veratti tonight and didn't understand he had his own midfield gem sitting on the bench.

You know, the way Kevin gets spoken about in this forum, you'd think he was Sergio Busquets already. Not denying that he might be someone with potential, but the prejudice shown towards the idea of singing Andre Schurrle at the sake of De Bruyne after the kid had one good season is beyond me. And even though I disagree about his position with The Only Place To Be, we've got another brilliant midfield player by the name of Chalobah that's a fantastic footballer but doesn't receive as near attention and he's been playing that well in this country. It's like the buck stops with de Bruyne.

Also, I'm laughing reading this. Suddenly everyone's up for it because, the messiah, KdB isn't included in the deal?! Lol wut?

Now what I like about this situation is the big rumours regarding Mourinho having a discussion with the Leverkrusen coach & Schurrle after this testimonial game, shows he's been given that control he desires.

It isn't? Because from every other source it's quite apparent that he won't be with Chelsea next season and he's definitely on Dortmund's wishlist.

Is it though? With this option KdB still has a chance at Chelsea, it means if he does turn into this second coming of Jesus that everyone says he is - We won't be ending up kicking ourselves and then trying to buy him back for £35million. It would surely be better than selling him to BVB, no?

I don't particularly rate Martinez too much, but I'll keep a close eye to see how he does with Everton - Which is a true managerial test considering what Moyes had done with them

It's not an unheard of request.. I mean Bruma is on a 2-year loan at Hamburg.

Did I miss something? Did the Transfer Window open early this year?!

Stinks of Madrid interference, probably trying to bite back now that Mou's out the country. Look forward to him dismissing them in his usual comical ways.

I don't see Dzeko like that, he's more of a poacher in my eyes.. More in the mold of a Berbatov rather than a Ba or Lukaku.

Then what would Paulo do?

Yeah, I don't see it happening either, but it's logical. 2 seasons is very optimistic, I think we'll definitely get something from him this season in terms of a transition. The thing is, Lampard sort of 'earned' his contract with goals at times when they were needed and obviously to lure Mourinho it was needed. However Terry's been a scarce in the starting XI under Rafa and unless Mourinho plays him like 50-60% of the season, I don't see him being offered a new deal. Also depends on politics. The whispers about Roman being annoyed at Lampard regarding Villas-Boas weren't baseless and if that's what was hindering contract talks then Terry should be fine in that regard. It will be crucial to observe whether the Board will take on Mou's opinion about contract extensions or not.

I'm still waiting on the situation with Steve Kean & Materazzi

We'll wait for the inevitable 'lost in translation', but if this were to happen, it would seem like another Deco transfer.

I'm pretty sure that should be in euros, not pounds?

Just for the sake of seeing another point of view (not mine) we could look at it this way; If Mourinho sees Terry as not being pertinent to the squad any more, Monaco would be an attractive project for Terry. Remember it was Ranieri who first gave Terry his debut and integrated him into the squad when Terry began to rise as a Chelsea regular. Yes, Mourinho made him permanent captain but it was actually Tinkerman who first assigned him the armband in Desailly's absence. It wouldn't be the most illogical move in the world. Not to mention the idea of making around £200,000/week, tax free at his age for a year