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Oh. I read about arsenal and even Atletico Madrid interest, did not know Napoli were in the picture too. Waste of funds imo. Would rather have either or both of reguilon and tagliafco. Also, doubt Leicester do that, or rather I hope not.

Went from "advanced talks" to "radio silence" in a week.

I hope we dont let him run down his contract. Sell him with 2 year on his contract for 200m to RM.

I have a 100 on ATM. The lockdown has saved me some money () with no outings and shit. So thought of taking a ping. Do agree with you. For me, Bayern vs ATM. The format suits ATM. I can see them keeping 3 CSs

I see a lot of similarities with rice tbh.

I hope THAT is the plan

Yup. A good season. Building blocks are there. Now need to take a step up.

Fair, but the whole kovacic deal was offset by aina (10m€), kalas (9m€), Luiz (8m€), omeruo (5m€) and hector (5m€), not to forget angban - 6m€, palmer - 3m€, lamptey - 3m€, deshawn - 2m€ and da silva - 2m€. On top of it, hazard. I mean 100m€ would be a very fair budget.

Exactly. But it will impact the teams from championship and below. Had read an article which said that it was a decent source of income for them. But FA needs to do something. Totally agree.

Fair enough on a lot of points. Main thing is what weight does a person give to what criteria. For me, results throughout the season and specially in the league are far higher than trophies. Simply because trophies can be mis-leading. Taking psg and bayern as example. PSG already has a treble, but is that even worth mentioning? They are so far above any of their domestic rivals that its a given. Same with Bayern. Winning bundesliga and Pokal should be the base minimum given their class and the difference with even the 2nd best team - BVB. Hence CL becomes paramount to judge these teams. In which the recent history does favour Liverpool. The whole discussion and matter is so subjective. I mean none of these discussion will take into consideration that liverpool played an u23 team against villa because their first team was in another continent playing the club world cup within the next 24 hours. Priorities have to be made and more so in english football compared to any other league. And then there are the respective leagues. Liverpool: 2019/20: P38 W32 D3 L3 2018/19: P38 W30 D7 L1 Oveall: P76, W62, D10, L4. Win% - 84.2%, PPG - 2.57 PSG: 2019/20: P27 W22 D2 L3 2018/19: P38 W29 D4 L5 Overall: P65 W51 D6 L8. Win% - 78.4%, PPG - 2.44 Bayern: 2019/20: P34 W26 D4 L4 2018/19: P34 W24 D6 L4 Overall: P68 W50 D10 L8. Win% - 73.5% PPG - 2.35 This is just an unbelievable stat and one of the main reasons for me to say they have been the best. Again very subjective and depends on person to person. But to have a better win % than PSG and Bayern in their respective leagues and that too in such a competitive league like PL, its just out of this world, imo. That Level of consistency - A1. Again, no wrong or right in this. But I can understand your opinion, or mine or someone else's. Different opinions and preferences define a person's choice.

You seriously DONT read anything another person writes, do you? I mentioned a CL final here. But dont worry, it hardly matters what I write as you are simply gonna continue with your drivel or that "i am moving goal posts"LOL You still have not said who you think is the best team in the world over this same period. I am waiting for an answer mate. COme on. Lets see all the records of the team you think is better than them. Hahahaha.

I think Rice is the CB that we are looking at. Don't think that would be inconceivable. Kai - 80m€ Werner - 50m€ Ziyech - 40m€ Reguilon - 25m€ Onana - 30m€ Rice - 70m€ Total 295/300m€ Outs - Morata - 56m€ Pasalic - 15m€ Nathan - 3m€ Bakayoko - 20m€ Barkley - 25m€ Michy - 20m€ Emerson - 20m€ Rudiger/zouma/AC - 30m€ Baker, brown, kenedy, Drinkwater, baba, zappacosta etc - 20m€ Total ~ 200/210m€ Given that we did not spend a single buck in last 2 Windows, our transfer budget should be around 100m€. Which makes sense.

Oblak is supposedly one of them Oh. That's a massive blow for ATM

Damn. Delay the game? Or just continue with those 2 absent

Lol. So one FWCC performance makes them not the best? Totally disregarding 97 and 99 points in the PL. Do RM, barca have as many points despite being in a far less competitive league? Bayern Munich had 78 in 2018/19 and 82 in 2019/20. Total of 160 in 68 games @ 2.35 points per game. Liverpool 99+97 has 2.57 points per game. And thts a one horse race and a league 10 times less competitive than PL. Even PSG had 91 in 18/19 and 68 in 27 games this season. That's 2.44 points per game. And that league is a joke Now that's what I would call conclusive, factual and statistical based. Add a CL and a CL final, there is no doubt who has been the best team in the world. Again, agree to disagree. But there can be no doubt by any measure which is the best team in the world. And the fact that you are not saying which you think is the best team in the world in the same time period, is more conclusive as there is no way tht team has more points or better performances in the said time period (which is not since February specially when there was no football for 3 of those months 😂)

What? For 2018-19, baka's balance sheet would be Amortized fee - 8m€ ( 40m€ on 5 year contract) Wages - 2m (as apparently paid by us) Loan fees - 2m So overall 8m+2m -2m = 8m, which would be the same as Monaco simply paying his wages and not giving a loan fee Irrespective of however it happened, he would have costed us the same. Lol, anyone challenges some of the utter OTT things you post, becomes problematic for you. You pick and choose what you quote, just like the part of my previous response while ignoring the whole gist instead of accepting that 'people were not gas lighting", instead speaking depending on actual accounting techniques. Now similarly you have developed some weird "balance sheet accounting methodology". I would love to understand this particular methodology. Or even if you coukd provide a link.

Well said. Anyways, don't think uefa/fifa has even left us that option now. No more loan trafficking for us.

When "people say that we are making a profit" out of hum, those "people" mean for the fiscal year of 2020-21. What has happened has happened in our previous years. That can not be changed, and doesn't even matter as we were able to balance out books THEN, get it? For the fiscal year 2020-21. Baka has an amortized left fee of 16m€ (2 years left on his contract). We sell him for 20m€, we make a "player sale profit" of 4m€. Basic accountancy. A lot of people on here will validate it or you can read up on it. Ps - why would we pay half his wages at Milan 4m, but they pay us 4.5m in loan fee 😂. I mean would not it be the same as just paying his wages for the year, it would cost milan the same, it would cost us the same, and baka will get what he is contracted to get. Same with Monaco, we apparently paid 2.2m of his wages, but they paid 2.7m in loan fees? 😂 Don't think we paid his wages in either Monaco or AC. Won't make any sense to get a "loan fee" of the same amount, but us paying the wages.

Oh. Are we counting each of the losses. Same as the 5-1 drubbing that Bayern got? And you feel thats the best team? You can not like Liverpool and still give them the credit they deserve. 97 and 99 Pl points in the last 2 seasons. That itself should be a sign of how consistent they have been. "Barely beating teams" is still beating teams. You don't need to go full throttle in each game. Our 14/15 team did not, we "barely" won games 1-0, does not mean we were not the best team in the world. I hate them as much as you, but imho, they have been over and above any team in the past 3 seasons. Be it by consistency, clutch wins whatever metric we want to use. Simply put, any team that you say has been a better team, will have more losses, and fuck ups than pool. Again 97 and 99 points. Unbelievable achievement Anyways let's agree to disagree. And let's just hope they actually tank. Just like klopp's bvb.

Most of the games in your sample size are AFTER they won the league. Bayern were so poor less than a year ago that they needed to fire their manager. Recency bias aside and based on a significant sample size of 2/3 seasons, we have a CL final, a CL win and one of the best ever campaigns by any PL team. Last time Bayern were in a CL final, it was in 2013. Not dissing on Bayern, they are a great team (obviously), and one of the best, but pool have been the best team on the planet for a couple of years.

100m+

I think our pressing is quite. I remember us going toe toe with Liverpool in uefa super Cup or the game at bridge as well as the fa cup tie. Some games we just seem to be confused regarding how much to commit. For eg - arsenal, which can end up with us being in a no man zone. Also, honestly don't feel its a wrong comparison even if the systems are not same. I mean pool's and city's systems were not the same but their story is the same. Personnel matching the system required by the manager helps the team. Currently we have 2 Conte LWBs who should not be starting for us, zouma who will be a great defender in a low block system, AC who should fit the system perfectly but just can't cope with the PL physicality. I honestly think better personnel, would result in a much better defensive unit.

While we are on the topic of set pieces. Why the hell did mount not take the FK yesterday from the edge of the box. Did not he just score a FK from exactly that position against wolves. What's worse is why the hell did Ross take it. I mean barkley.? Seriously? Mount should have put his foot down and said, "get lost. I am taking this"

I feel we are so harsh on the board. Let's take batshuayi for example. If I go to his thread at the start of the season, people wanted him to be our no.1 striker. Also he simply does not fit the lamps' system, but is a decent prospect. I feel for majority of cases, what we do works, we were even able to get majority of our money back for Morata. I feel that's exactly what would have happened for most of the players currently on loan or on the chopping block. Be it with youth players or with such loanees. It would have worked today too, if not for the unprecedented pandemic. Let's be fair, you can't prepare for something like that, can you. But obviously, it has its pros and cons. Currently the cons are coming to fore heavily. Let's just hope we are able to offload majority of the players that we don't need to simply get them off the books. Do agree, that it's high time, specially with the new loan rules.

I don't think we should discount set pieces. I mean we have been crying about having a decent free kick and corner taker. It's not like scoring 15 penalities to mega boost your stats. It's a genuinely dangerous skill. Look at TAA. Twice his set pieces have killed us. Also, vidal plays for barca surrounded by messi, Suarez taking away the players. Even then 10 goals/assists vs 13 goals/assists. Come on bro, that's nothing to be scoffed at.