The Skipper

Would love it if Josh or Chalobah featured in this.

What?

Brilliant finish.

It's way too early for anyone to say whether this isn't a squad Mourinho can do damage with. At least give him a season.

No one is saying Luiz didn't make a mistake though, don't get it twisted. It's just that some are saying he's the main culprit for the goal which I disagree with.

Don't like how the analysis is making Luiz the biggest culprit. Completely disagree with the "ball watching" comment on Luiz. THIS is why Luiz left his position - because there was a gaping gap that Everton could've exploited and none of our midfielders seemed to be aware of such - so if Mikel or Ramires had simply filled that gap, Luiz doesn't go up to try and fill it. He wasn't ball watching, but was actually trying to fill a huge gap our midfielders left. Yeah, it proved to be a mistake, but the mistake was followed by a series of mistakes Cech, Mikel and Ramires initiated, which Luiz tried to fix. It was a mistake from many players, and Luiz wasn't the biggest culprit at all in my opinion - yeah he was a bit rash but it was just a bad defending overall, a lot of people were out of position and made mistakes. It wasn't his adrenaline, it wasn't him ball watching - he was rather unsuccessfully trying to fill a huge gap that no one in the team seemed to have picked up. So there, I've solved your Luiz conundrum.

The difference last year was that we didn't have a squad to cope with all of those games, and now we do. Last year and the year before are so different to this year - in previous years we had the likes of Benayoun, Marin, Malouda etc. on the bench and now it looks a lot different. Regarding this season it's still fairly early in the season and our team is still taking shape - it's been a slow start but it's way too early to make concrete conclusions. Look at the last few years where United have won the title - they always start extremely slow but when the business end of the season approaches is when they really perform. Similarly, look at our start last season - and look how our season ended. As I said before, there's no reason to panic.

... . Whatever you say mate.

Did I say such...

Didn't you say you only only watched 30 mins of the game? Or have you rewatched it now?Regardless, whether you like it or not, JOM was still our best player yesterday, and the majority seem to think that too going by the MOTM poll.

Azpilicueta has to start for me. He has to get game time at some point.

Not sure what game you were watching but Barkley wasn't threatening at all. Like it or not Mikel pretty much had him under control for almost the whole game.

We have one in Ramires. We didn't have a problem in midfield yesterday, it was simply us failing to finish our chances. Everton scored because of mistakes made by a few players, not through genuine ingenuity. We score half of our pretty clear cut chances and we win the game easily. We didn't play bad.

So you're telling me Barry's tackle was completely irrelevant? I'm done man there's no point discussing it - you think Eto'o is useless, I don't - we'll just leave it there.

I see you keep on bringing up the "open goal" he missed - he didn't even miss it so that argument is void IMO. It was a brilliant piece of defending from Barry and Barry deserves the credit for stopping the goal; it really wasn't like Eto'o missed it with no one pressuring him or anything hence why I think you're completely overreacting and completely underrating Eto'o's finishing ability. Eto'o is one of the most lethal finishers that has ever played, and sometimes you just have an off game in that regard. It happens to every striker which is why I say you can't really say he's useless after one game.

Disagree that one of our main problems was "finishing" last season, especially for our strikers. Last year we barely created enough clear cut chances for Ba and Torres. It was usually a goal from midfield that won games from us - and that was because our attacking midfielders were in better positions to score than the two aforementioned more often than not, not because our strikers had 3/4 chances to score in in most games. I honestly can't remember the last time Torres had 3 or more pretty clear chances in a game and that tells you a lot.

How did you gather that? Don't be ridiculous. No one on the forum thinks we're going to walk the title - in fact most are predicting a top three finish. Just because people are being reasonable about the loss doesn't mean they think we're going to win the rest of our games.

I wonder if you'd be saying the same if we signed a Cavani or Falcao and they performed like Eto'o did. You're being so short sighted its unbelievable. If you're going to use Torres and Ba as arguments (both who've played far more games than Eto'o, he's just played one game ffs) then I think it's best we just leave it there.

You think a lethal finisher like Eto'o can't score because his finishing was off in one game? You've decided to completely write him off after one game, that's atrocious IMO. At least give him a few games. He got into great positions and on another day could've easily grabbed a brace and his link up play was excellent and created clear cut chances (i.e. Schurrle's sitter). You really need to relax.

I see the argument from Phil and bleed_blue has now shifted from "Mourinho doesn't rate him" to "Mikel is a bad omen for the team".

Surprisingly created our best chances yesterday. Had a pretty decent game, and on another day he could've easily grabbed an assist or two.

How is Eto'o useless after one game he didn't score in (which apart from that all other aspects of his game were pretty good)? This is ridiculous.

Best away atmosphere I've been to is probably Spurs.

He does need to step up. It's early days though, so I'm not too concerned.

Need Azpi, Mata, Eto'o and Willian to start as they all need to get a bit more match practice in.