The Skipper

Getting these off Twitter pal

Lampard's exact words: "When Chelsea decided not renew my contract", IMO that doesn't mean we didn't offer him one.

I don't rate Victor Moses too highly - but then again, I don't rate Mo Salah too highly either, even though I defend the kid quite a lot. Salah definitely has the better potential between the two, but for me atm it isn't too wrong to say that they're around the same level (based on their performances in a CFC shirt).

You really shouldn't put any weight behind any of that. Brendan Rodgers, Sturridge, Joe Cole etc... It's part of the deluded Liverpool PR system.

Suarez is another. Brilliant, brilliant footballing mind, but he wasn't educated.

My point is that it isn't the majority.

...No... I don't... You're obviously not even reading my posts correctly. Before we signed him last year, I didn't even want to sign him initially to begin with but that's passed now. I like him as a player, just like I do with the majority of other CFC players, but I wouldn't say I "really" liked him, or that he's one of my favourites.

One post on the whole page. My point exactly.

I didn't really defend Willian in that post tbh if you read it again. Nor have I really defended him in other threads. All I said in other threads that he'll play on the right a lot this season in response to someone who said he'll play exclusively in the middle...

Is that meant to be sarcastic or?

I agree that there are some extreme views obviously, never denied that. My point was however that those were in the minority, and that it's unfair to make a generalisation that basically insinuates that everyone that's disappointed and not happy about the move called him Judas, when that's far from the truth. As you've said, there are many well thought, rational opinions on here and it's unfair to label them like that.

I was thinking this the other day too. Even if he is, it's certainly not by much or distinctive.

It's a joke lol.

Must be said, Arsenal's squad depth isn't too bad either.

Even better.

I'd take Sanchez, Ozil, Koscielny, Ramsey. Maybe Wilshere. They have good players.

Have said it before, Reus is the perfect Mourinho AM, would be really amazing here. Hazard and Reus on each flank would truly be world class. I'd sign him in a heart beat.

Game will definitely be sold out. Best thing you can do is try to go to the ticket section of the forum and try to get another membership number.

'United club legend'

Agreed mostly, I wouldn't say the overhyping of him is sickening because I understand it, Schurrle seems like a really nice, hard working guy, has the makings of a top player and seems genuinely passionate about CFC, so automatically people will be enamoured with him, which is okay IMO. Schurrle will definitely have a huge role next season but our starting RW (which will likely come down between the two of Schurrle and Willian) isn't as set in stone as some have made it seem. It's still a 50/50 to me. In fact, I'm certain that at the end of the season they'll have similar minutes due to their versatility. They do both need to step it up though for CFC, including Oscar. Massive season coming up for all three - I wouldn't be too surprised if those that don't perform will be replaced next season.

I don't know if you remember but initially I was very against the transfer because 1. we didn't really need him at the time 2. the fee was far too excessive. Let's be honest now - Willian isn't a £30m player in any sense, he's worth £20m max, and even then it's slightly excessive, so I get what you're saying. He escapes regular criticism because he always puts in a decent shift IMO. It's also very true that he's never really produced big numbers in his career but he isn't that sort of player. I'd like to think of him as a player that will provide the pass before the pass, amongst other things like his energy, work rate, tactical ability and ability to keep possession. Sure, all of that isn't truly worth £30m, but I do believe that Willian will have a good season this year - something like 10 goals and 10/15 assists plus all the other intangibles he brings to the table would be a great season for Willian - sure, maybe that isn't worth the £30m; you'd expect more than that of a player of that fee; but he's a CFC player and we must support him and hope he improved this year on his productivity, which I believe he will, especially now the side is a lot more balanced so maybe we can afford to give him a bit more freedom tactically.

I'm speaking on a technical level - sure Willian's purpose and productivity should definitely be more, but technically speaking, his close control and ability to beat his man is only 2nd to Hazard IMO. His lack of productivity has a lot more to do with bad decision making in the final third, i.e. shooting instead of passing or passing instead of shooting or just failing to put in that decisive ball. I think he'll improve on that aspect this season though.

I'm sure you can express your feelings better. You don't have to be sarcastic or patronising. Understand that Lamps is someone a lot of people are emotionally connected to so naturally people will be disappointed. You're just over exaggerating with your Judas satire, as if that's the general consensus on here. But it's not.

Get over it man. Stop patronising and acting like people aren't allowed to be sad about the move. People are naturally disappointed but barely anyone is calling him Judas, it isn't the general consensus around here at all.

I've said it before dude, Willian will play tons of games on the RW.