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that is the part I do not get, surely with add-ons and/or deferred payments he will cost more than Kepa (£72m) unless she literally got them to accept less than 80 euros TOTAL

Damn, ANOTHER GK linked, lol I think it is close to 40 now not joking

Sarr free too but is that Havertz fee the total cost, or just the initial payment?

is that with our without potential add-ons ad/or staggered payments? the Matt Law article is paywalled and I refuse to give the Torygraph any quid

of course, but I need to see facts and documentation from more than one source, plus potential payouts do not equal 'already banked' payouts I have said we would end up getting £115m to £125m at the end of the day, so the difference is not massive if that one journo is correct, then it also puts ALL the others in a very poor light which is distressing in and of itself, as how can you trust anything you read anymore, even from the so-called 'reputable' ones

She didn't This journo is the only one saying these crazy high numbers. Literally the only one. And I want tge ENTIRE article posted verbatim. It is paywalled. I, of all people, am owed that entire paywalled article being posted. I have posted dozens of paywalled articles for all on here to read. I want to parse this with a fine tooth comb. Massive difference between potentially may have to pay and will guarantee pay and has already paid If I start seeing people claim that we sold Hazard for €160m (which will, knowing this board, soon be called £160m) and infer we already got that much, with nothing to back that up, I will always have a go

it is staggering the amount of Gk'ers we have been linked with Jan Oblak Marc-André ter Stegen Gianluigi Donnarumma André Onana Bernd Leno Unai Simón Jordan Pickford Alex Meret Thomas Strakosha Dean Henderson Juan Musso Mike Maignan Pau López Ugurcan Cakir Neto Alphonse Areola Aaron Ramsdale Nick Pope Jasper Cillessen Alban Lafont Roman Bürki Péter Gulácsi Yann Sommer Kasper Schmeichel Predrag Rajkovic Emiliano Martínez Martin Dubravka Edouard Mendy Jack Butland Fraser Forster Salvatore Sirigu Sven Ulreich Vicente Guaita Tim Krul probably left some out too

I have seen zero reason to think this is not a done deal said it ages ago all I see now is bunch of rando cunts on Twitter trying to toss water I stopped stressing out weeks ago only things of interest to me are, atm (and soe will not be done now) 1. GKer 2. Rice (dependent on more sales now I would think) 3. Skriniar (swap for Kante? that rumour was floating out there for days, but I doubt it, so I think he stays or PSG gets him,(oh well, can't win them all, lolol)..... also José Giménez would be superb, but he is too expensive) 4 and 5. etc............. next season Upamecano and Camavinga (if not Camaviga, then Bruno Guimarães) and perhaps (based off this coming seasons results <<<< CHO and Pulisic, I am looking at you) a winger (not many out there enthuse me after the impossible Sancho) and a CMF (my CMF list of interest is very short, Aouar, Saul (probably too expensive, like Giménez), and Verratti (probably impossible,and he goes off my list after the summer 2021 window due to age), and 2 teens, Jude Bellingham, and Ryan Gravenberch) plus, obviously SELLING these 26 dregs/not needed/too old soon we have to dump this window or the next two Andreas Christensen Ross Barkley Tiemoué Bakayoko Emerson Michy Batshuayi Davide Zappacosta Danny Drinkwater (thik we end up absolutely eating most of the £63m we shit away on his fee and wages) Jorginho Abdul Rahman Baba Victor Moses Kenedy Marco van Ginkel Juan Familia-Castillo Charly Musonda Jr. Matt Miazga Lewis Baker Jamal Blackman Lucas Piazón Jake Clarke-Salter Izzy Brown Luke McCormick Jacob Maddox then the could sell now (but may not as we cannot do these all in one window), but surely must go next year (unless Kepa pulls the biggest surprise turnaround in Roman's history) Kepa Zouma Marcos Alonso N'Golo Kanté and on the positive: if/when Boga is sold, we get nice sell on fee Danilo Pantic (transferred on a free, BUT we get a cut of his next sale)

he will be loved here in certain corners

High-risk, high-reward football: What Hakim Ziyech will bring to Chelsea https://theathletic.com/2038942/2020/09/03/hakim-ziyech-chelsea-werner-analysis/ Chelsea fans had to wait less than four minutes of Sunday’s first pre-season friendly to see Hakim Ziyech dust off what has become his signature assist. Receiving a pass from N’Golo Kante deep on the right flank, his first touch nudged the ball out of his feet and his second whipped it, in a devilish arc, over the Brighton & Hove Albion defence. Callum Hudson-Odoi timed his run into the penalty area perfectly from the left wing and, even though he badly miscued his header, Timo Werner was on hand next to him to tap in. They had seen it before, of course; at Stamford Bridge in November, when Ziyech’s brilliance helped Ajax surge into a 4-1 lead in a madcap Champions League group match that ended 4-4. Midway through the first half that night, the ball found him on the right flank and his eyes briefly locked with those of Quincy Promes… The result was a brilliant cross and precise header that rendered both Cesar Azpilicueta and Kepa Arrizabalaga helpless. Morocco international Ziyech loves receiving the ball in this spot — midway into the opposition half, on the right flank. When he does, he is effectively a triple threat: to drive infield onto his left foot and shoot, to work the ball towards the byline (often with the help of an overlapping right-back), or to carve open a defence with an incisive delivery from a position that makes him very difficult to effectively pressure or dispossess. Promes was the primary beneficiary at Ajax whenever Ziyech chose to cross; time and again escaping opposition right-backs to supply cool finishes to pinpoint in-swinging deliveries. Here, they are preparing to combine for the second goal in a 2-0 away win over Lille in November from virtually identical positions to the ones in the example above at Stamford Bridge three weeks earlier. The ball is lower when it reaches Promes this time, and he connects with the outside of his right boot. Ziyech and Promes combined to score almost the same goal twice more that month, one in each half in a 4-1 home win over Heracles in the Eredivisie. For the first, the Moroccan is slightly more central, and the defenders nearest to him could be forgiven for thinking he is lining up a shot… … but he isn’t, and Promes gets himself another unmarked header. Just before the hour they did it again, with Ziyech once more drawing multiple defenders towards him to shut down a possible shot. This time, Promes has a considerably tighter shooting angle when the ball reaches him, but that doesn’t stop him scoring. This should be particularly exciting to Chelsea supporters, because it is immediately translatable to the Premier League. Kevin De Bruyne and Trent Alexander-Arnold are two examples of wide creators who consistently pick open defences with crosses from the very position Ziyech loves to take up. Chelsea head coach Frank Lampard also has plenty of candidates for the Promes role: Christian Pulisic and Werner are already capable of consistently making that run to the far post, while Hudson-Odoi has also made significant strides with his off-the-ball movement. Ziyech deserves to be considered one of Europe’s most dangerous crossers, as much for the constant pressure he puts on defences as for his consistent quality. Last season, he averaged 9.72 crosses per 90 minutes in the Eredivisie, not far off what Alexander-Arnold (10.70) and De Bruyne (9.81) managed in the Premier League. If he is paired with Reece James (6.55 crosses per 90) on the overlap, the barrage of targeted deliveries from Chelsea’s right side will be very difficult for opponents to shut down. Pretty much everything about Ziyech’s game is high volume. Last season, he averaged 4.98 shot attempts per 90 minutes in the Eredivisie, more than anyone else in the division. For context, the only players in Europe’s top five leagues who shot more frequently were Cristiano Ronaldo for Juventus (6.05), Paris Saint-Germain’s Kylian Mbappe (5.23) and Luis Muriel of Atalanta (5.14). Of his 89 total shot attempts, 58 — or 65.2 per cent — were from outside the penalty area. To say that Ziyech is open to trying his luck from distance is putting it mildly. It means he is capable of scoring spectacular goals, like this one to break the deadlock in what became a 3-0 win away at Valencia last October. Ziyech is always prepared to hunt for his own shooting opportunities, with or without the ball. Here, in the first half of a 6-1 win against ADO Den Haag just before Christmas, he receives the ball in his triple-threat position with all three options open to him… …but he only has one of them on his mind. He drives infield onto his left foot and, having found a small window between three defenders, rifles a left-footed shot into the far corner. In this example, from a 4-1 win at Willem II in April of last year, Ajax have worked the ball out to Nicolas Tagliafico in a crossing position on the left. Ziyech has jogged in from the right and is calling for a pass. Ajax briefly lose and then regain the ball before it’s finally nudged back to him. It is played onto his supposedly weaker right foot but that doesn’t stop him rippling the net with a first-time hit from just beyond the D. Ziyech is likelier to be a scorer of great goals rather than a great goalscorer for Chelsea. He found the net once in every three Eredivisie matches for Ajax (38 in 112) and broke into double figures across all competitions in only one of his four seasons in Amsterdam. You can also expect him to frustrate team-mates — and probably Lampard at times — with his willingness to shoot from anywhere in any situation. There is going to need to be a broader recalibration of shots among Chelsea’s expanded array of attackers next season. Werner averaged 3.9 shot attempts per 90 in the Bundesliga last season, while Tammy Abraham (3.6 shots per 90 in the Premier League), Pulisic (3.3 shots per 90 in the Premier League) and the Chelsea-bound Kai Havertz (2.2 shots per 90 in the Bundesliga) will also want their fair share of opportunities. A key part of Ziyech’s adaptation must be curbing his worst instincts in the final third. Those include shots like this one against AZ Alkmaar in March, which could have been a conversion in rugby union… …or this one against Utrecht three days later, which might still be causing Adam Maher nightmares after it caught him full in the face from close range… … or this one against Vitesse Arnhem, in the Dutch Cup in February, with five team-mates ahead of him (and Ajax three up with five minutes left, admittedly)… Lampard, no stranger to taking shots from long distance in his own playing career, will value Ziyech’s aggression in matches against inferior opponents — the kind of fixtures in which Chelsea have too often fallen into the trap of spending 90 minutes passing sideways in recent years. But it is also easy to picture smart defences at Stamford Bridge daring the 27-year-old to take on low-percentage shots at the expense of his team’s rhythm, so maintaining a healthy balance will be crucial. Ziyech’s relentless ambition with the ball is a big part of what makes him special. His 77.4 per cent pass accuracy in the Eredivisie last season would rank him above only Willy Caballero, Olivier Giroud and Abraham in the Chelsea squad, but only Ajax team-mate Klaas-Jan Huntelaar bettered his average of 1.06 direct goal involvements per 90 minutes. His average of 4.18 passes into the penalty area per 90 minutes in the Champions League last season was also higher than any other player in the competition. The man plays high-risk, high-reward football. Sometimes that means he forces things a little too much. Here, against Willem II in December, he tries and fails to slide Noa Lang through on goal when there is a much easier progressive passing option in the form of Tagliafico, who is calling for the ball out on the left flank. Willem II fail to clear their lines and Ajax almost immediately work the ball back to the feet of Ziyech. But instead of switching play to the still-open Tagliafico, he ends up shooting wide from 25 yards… But when Ziyech’s risk-taking does pay off, he can crack a defence open. Here, against 10-man Groningen last September, he spots Donny van de Beek cutting into the area and lofts a pass towards him… …Van de Beek meets the dropping ball with a brilliant first-time cross, and Huntelaar has a tap-in. In many ways, Ziyech is a throwback of a playmaker, wired to forego the efficient option in search of the exceptional one. But he isn’t a tactical luxury; he is more than willing to work hard to be part of a collective press and win the ball back in good positions for his team. Real Madrid found this out to their cost in Ajax’s unforgettable 4-1 win at the Bernabeu in a March 2019 Champions League last-16 decider. Sergio Reguilon dallies on the ball in the holders’ left-back spot and Ziyech dispossesses him… …he slides through Dusan Tadic and continues his run into the box, meeting the Serb’s return pass with a clinical one-touch finish into the far corner. Here, with AZ Alkmaar leading at the Amsterdam Arena with 20 minutes to go in March, Ziyech gives chase as Dani de Wit attempts to lead a counter-attack… Ziyech’s pressure is effective and, while he doesn’t win the ball, he ultimately forces De Wit to turn and play it backwards. There’s every reason to think Ziyech will be a big asset to Chelsea this season — particularly in matches where they are challenged to break down deep-lying opponents — without being a defensive liability. One of the big questions for Lampard to answer is how Ziyech can best co-exist with fellow new boy Havertz, another elite left-footed shot creator who often likes to drift towards the right flank. There is a similar overlap on the left, where Pulisic marked himself out as Chelsea’s most dangerous attacking player for long stretches of last season and where Werner was often given the freedom to roam by Julian Nagelsmann for RB Leipzig. A key part of the answer will likely be to encourage considerable fluidity in Chelsea’s attack, with Ziyech and Havertz swapping positions as they combine on the right and Pulisic and Werner doing something similar on the other side of the pitch. The starting structure should be open to interpretation depending on the opponents and game situation, and Lampard will expect the elite scorers and creators he now has at his disposal to figure out some of these things for themselves. Ziyech is very capable of being a threat anywhere across the creative line. Here he is in last season’s 6-1 thumping of ADO Den Haag, supplying a more conventional cross from the left to meet Van de Beek’s smart run. Van de Beek’s first-time finish into the bottom corner is brilliant, but it’s only possible because of the quality of the delivery. Here he is in a central area against Tottenham Hotspur in the first leg of that epic Champions League semi-final in 2018-19, rattling a pass between Jan Vertonghen and Danny Rose to the feet of Van de Beek. Van de Beek controls it perfectly, beats Hugo Lloris with a clever feint, then finds the bottom corner. And here, finally, is Ziyech in a much deeper position against Benfica in November 2018, floating a 40-yard pass over the defence and perfectly into the path of Tadic, who ultimately bundles the ball into the net. They didn’t call Ziyech “The Wizard of Amsterdam” at Ajax for nothing. He should bring a significant goal threat and a swaggering creativity to Chelsea, producing plenty of moments to savour along the way.

so if a player (not saying in this situation injury comes into to play) is injured and is off the pitch, they still can be counted as offside or playing a person onside? seems ludicrous

Ironic as they were ESPN too. Also that phantom extra two minutes was dodgy

I disagree. So did the presenters.

80th Minute Goal Turkey 0, Hungary 1. Dominik Szoboszlai (Hungary) from a free kick with a right footed shot to the top right corner.

the state of refereeing is shambolic

lol that games was stolen Gaya was offside as Gosens was off the pitch AND it was outrageous they added 2 extra minutes during the 4 already given

Bale looking like Blanka for Street Fighter

nice goal Timo

2020-21 UEFA Nations League, Group Stage Germany v Spain http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2020/nations-league-germany-vs-spain-s1/ https://www.totalsportek.com/highlights/germany-live-stream/

Werner and Rudiger start though

my dick pic collection is non existent they are deleted upon receipt I can pass the next on to you in PM when/if another one comes in many came from randos in Second Life, but I barely log in there for years it is a cesspool

Chelsea’s breakthrough star – Tino Anjorin https://theathletic.com/2034881/2020/09/02/chelsea-breakthrough-star-tino-anjorin-frank-lampard/ If 2019 will be remembered as the year Chelsea finally embraced its all-conquering academy, 2020 is shaping up to be something much more familiar in the Roman Abramovich era. A spectacular spending spree, targeting some of Europe’s most coveted players, is raising expectations at Stamford Bridge back towards the level of serious domestic and European contention. There is every reason to think that Mason Mount, Reece James, Tammy Abraham, Callum Hudson-Odoi, Billy Gilmour and Fikayo Tomori will continue to figure prominently in Frank Lampard’s thoughts, even as the transfer market supercharges his attempts to build the next great Chelsea team. For the next wave of youngsters across the road at Cobham, slightly too young to benefit from the happy confluence of a transfer ban and a manager inclined to trust youth, circumstances going into 2020-21 look less favourable in the short term. But if we are to witness another Chelsea academy prospect break through in a meaningful way this season, the smart money would be on it being Tino Anjorin. Sources have told The Athletic that unless a loan offer emerges in this window that is too good to turn down, he is inclined to remain around the first-team squad and compete for minutes on the pitch with Lampard’s high-profile signings and established academy graduates. It is a mark of just how highly rated Anjorin is throughout Europe in youth circles that he was included in the long list for the 2020 edition of Tuttosport’s prized Golden Boy award despite playing just 42 senior minutes for Chelsea last season, including an eye-catching cameo in a 7-1 rout of Grimsby Town in the third round of the Carabao Cup in September. Six months later, he made his Premier League debut as a substitute in a 4-0 home win over Everton, when he was one sure touch away from a goal. Gilmour, enjoying the final minutes of his second midfield masterclass in the space of a week, won the ball deep in the Everton half and darted towards the penalty area. He showed the presence of mind to draw Michael Keane towards him before sliding the ball to his left, where Anjorin was hovering unmarked. The 18-year-old, whose first contribution to the match a few minutes earlier had been to try to volley in a dropping ball from 30 yards, couldn’t dream of a better chance to score. Instead, his first touch allowed the ball to drift away to his left, moments before Djibril Sidibe wiped him out with a clean sliding recovery challenge that doubled as a classic “Welcome to the Premier League” moment. On the evidence of Anjorin’s broader body of work throughout the youth levels, it’s hard to imagine defenders being granted such opportunities for redemption in the future. Watch any compilation of his goals and what strikes you is not simply the composure of the finishing, but also the variety. Anjorin scores virtually every type of goal from any range with either foot, though it’s fair to say he hasn’t yet shown himself a dominant aerial presence despite his muscular 6ft 1in frame. He specialises in driving into the box with the ball at his feet or arriving there without it at the right time and place to get himself a scoring chance. Once there, he generally favours precision over power. Much like most of Lampard’s “Class of ’19”, Anjorin started his professional football journey at Cobham. He was signed as an eight-year-old after being spotted by Graham Castle, Chelsea’s scout on the south coast who was also responsible for bringing Mount and Dominic Solanke to the club. Anjorin’s father Sheriff, a former academy prospect at Brighton and non-League footballer, approached the choice of which club to entrust with his talented son cautiously, but was won over by the quality of the facilities and the impressive operation run by Neil Bath. The moment that marked Anjorin out internationally as one of Europe’s elite prospects came much later, with England Under-18s against Russia at the Limoges Tournament in 2018. Receiving the ball on the right flank against Russia, he comfortably shielded it from his marker, worked his way infield and then lashed a shot with his left foot into the top far corner from 25 yards. He ended the competition as top scorer and was voted best player, the star of a victorious squad that featured Mason Greenwood and Bukayo Saka. Injuries have slowed his lightning progress towards senior football since. Anjorin, like Ruben Loftus-Cheek before him, had to adjust to a sudden growth spurt in his mid-teens and is still learning how best to manage his imposing body. He employed a personal fitness consultant and followed a bespoke workout programme over the summer of 2019 to ensure he would come into the new season in prime condition, having missed a chunk of the previous campaign with a back injury. Chelsea have been careful to manage Anjorin’s workload, employing the lessons learnt from Loftus-Cheek’s lengthy ordeal with injuries. But he has still been dominant in every youth competition and far more involved in first-team training under Lampard than predecessor Maurizio Sarri, who only called him up for one session during his year at Cobham. The comparison with Loftus-Cheek is immediately obvious, but reductive. Anjorin is a very different player with a unique set of attributes that makes him capable of dominating the heart of midfield, imposing himself in the penalty area or thriving on either wing. His skill, strength and speed at such a young age — he isn’t 19 until November — suggest he has the rare potential to blossom into a complete modern footballer. It is not even entirely clear yet what Anjorin’s best position will prove to be at senior level. Such versatility can be a detriment to development, as Ethan Ampadu has found over the last two years, but in this particular situation, the consequence may be more positive; Lampard has so many midfield and attacking options at his disposal now that Anjorin’s ability to fit in different possible combinations can only be preferable to needing a specific set of tactical circumstances to get a chance. Anjorin believes he will get one. His decision to sign a new five-year contract, announced in June, was a statement of faith in Lampard as much as Chelsea to manage the next stages of his development. He can also take plenty of inspiration from the huge strides that Mount, Abraham and Hudson-Odoi have made over the last 18 months. The presence of Hakim Ziyech, Timo Werner and Kai Havertz will make his own path more difficult, but he has the talent to ensure the Stamford Bridge youth movement goes on.

He was 29yo when we bought him

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